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Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 03 2012 15:53 GMT
#4961
I'll have to admit to cheating on my ROM. I lower the bar until my elbows are at 90 degrees.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 03 2012 16:01 GMT
#4962
On July 03 2012 22:19 Luxae wrote:
First Tuesday workout in a long time that I've actually made decent progress:
Squat 1x3 80, 100, 2x3 120kg
Press 1x5 40,50, 1x3 62.5kg - My press was stalling for a long time, came across this article and tried applying what it said today. My press felt infinitely better, I highly recommend it.
Deadlift 1x3 60, 90, 105, 120, 140kg - I realized last week that I've been, stupidly, using my left hand as the overhand in my mixed grip. Switched it today and it felt a lot better.
EZ-bar curls 3x8 48kg
Shrugs from the rack 3x3 125kg - I'm gonna try these for my grip strength for a few weeks and see if it helps.


That's actually a pretty good article, except that I don't follow (I will never disagree to someone who has more experience than my in weightlifting) the thumbless grip advice. It makes me feel unsafe. I'm already pressing my BW and I feel fine. <3.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 03 2012 16:05 GMT
#4963
On July 04 2012 01:01 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 22:19 Luxae wrote:
First Tuesday workout in a long time that I've actually made decent progress:
Squat 1x3 80, 100, 2x3 120kg
Press 1x5 40,50, 1x3 62.5kg - My press was stalling for a long time, came across this article and tried applying what it said today. My press felt infinitely better, I highly recommend it.
Deadlift 1x3 60, 90, 105, 120, 140kg - I realized last week that I've been, stupidly, using my left hand as the overhand in my mixed grip. Switched it today and it felt a lot better.
EZ-bar curls 3x8 48kg
Shrugs from the rack 3x3 125kg - I'm gonna try these for my grip strength for a few weeks and see if it helps.


That's actually a pretty good article, except that I don't follow (I will never disagree to someone who has more experience than my in weightlifting) the thumbless grip advice. It makes me feel unsafe. I'm already pressing my BW and I feel fine. <3.


I thought it would make me feel unsafe too, but aside from the initial awkwardness it felt pretty comfortable. If you haven't actually tried it before I'd highly suggest you give it a try with some of your warmups, you might be pleasantly surprised.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 03 2012 16:15 GMT
#4964
I hear they call it the suicide grip. Don't want the bar on my face because I lose focus for a second.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
July 03 2012 16:27 GMT
#4965
If you do the "suicide grip" properly, by first taking a tight regular grip and then remove your thumb, it's almost impossible to drop the bar. Hurts quite a bit though, atleast when I do it.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
July 03 2012 16:30 GMT
#4966
Thumbless grip on overhead press feels way more natural to me, and I really doubt I will ever drop it. Would never use the thumbless grip on bench press tho.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
July 03 2012 16:35 GMT
#4967
Wow, amazing progress Malinor!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 03 2012 16:54 GMT
#4968
On July 04 2012 01:15 Osmoses wrote:
I hear they call it the suicide grip. Don't want the bar on my face because I lose focus for a second.


Its suicide grip on bench,but i dont think youre ever going to have a problem ditching an ohp. Juat kick your hips back and your arms forward and let it hit the ground. I read the same article a week or two back and it feels awesome in your press.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 03 2012 17:55 GMT
#4969
Yay finally broke through my plateau of 215x5 bench :D Was a lot easier than 210x5 last week
Hopefully I can get 2 plates soon but progressing further might require me gaining some weight. I'll prob maintain until the end of the summer and bulk through winter.
Official Entusman #21
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
July 03 2012 18:09 GMT
#4970
Cut is looking good. Lost 1kg from 3 days at the beach. fuck yea
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 03 2012 18:09 GMT
#4971
I can pull up one of my coach's articles when i get home that says thumbless grip (along with some other things) is ideal for maximal speed off the chest during a overhead press.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
July 03 2012 18:40 GMT
#4972
Wow Malinor. Insane how much your face changed do people even recognize you?
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 03 2012 19:01 GMT
#4973
I know Rippetoe recommends using a grip with the thumb around it to activate more muscles. Haven't tried thumbless myself.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
July 03 2012 19:03 GMT
#4974
On July 04 2012 03:40 zatic wrote:
Wow Malinor. Insane how much your face changed do people even recognize you?


during the last couple of months I have had my fair share of friends (which I hadn't met in 6 months or so), which just walked straight past me. It always guarantees hilarious conversations afterwards. I once just stalked them for 2 minutes on the train station until they realized what's up.
Even more hilarious, more than once I looked at myself in a shop window, and did not recognize myself for a good couple of seconds. This last year has been really crazy.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
July 03 2012 19:08 GMT
#4975
I used thumbless a year back and always preffered it that way I don't even remember for what reason I changed my grip, but now I will try thumbless again.
I feel the "squeeze the biceps" hint is even more important though. I have to test this tomorrow, but my instant reaction was that I don't do that, and I can instantly realize the benefits just from reading the article. Maybe I did this last year too, my arms were so big, hard to not squeeze anything there, lol. I guess that is the stuff they mean when they are talking about leverages for powerlifting.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#4976
On July 04 2012 04:08 Malinor wrote:
I used thumbless a year back and always preffered it that way I don't even remember for what reason I changed my grip, but now I will try thumbless again.
I feel the "squeeze the biceps" hint is even more important though. I have to test this tomorrow, but my instant reaction was that I don't do that, and I can instantly realize the benefits just from reading the article. Maybe I did this last year too, my arms were so big, hard to not squeeze anything there, lol. I guess that is the stuff they mean when they are talking about leverages for powerlifting.


What does he mean by squeeze the biceps? No video or picture makes me a sad panda
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 21:05:40
July 03 2012 21:01 GMT
#4977
On July 04 2012 04:01 Deadeight wrote:
I know Rippetoe recommends using a grip with the thumb around it to activate more muscles. Haven't tried thumbless myself.


This guy (Paul) also does a podcast called Chaos & Bang (with jamie lewis from chaos and pain) and if you read any of their stuff (either of them) or listen to that podcast, you'll quickly realize that they have very limited respect for rippetoe.

On July 04 2012 04:53 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 04:08 Malinor wrote:
I used thumbless a year back and always preffered it that way I don't even remember for what reason I changed my grip, but now I will try thumbless again.
I feel the "squeeze the biceps" hint is even more important though. I have to test this tomorrow, but my instant reaction was that I don't do that, and I can instantly realize the benefits just from reading the article. Maybe I did this last year too, my arms were so big, hard to not squeeze anything there, lol. I guess that is the stuff they mean when they are talking about leverages for powerlifting.


What does he mean by squeeze the biceps? No video or picture makes me a sad panda


If you view the regular site (www.lift-run-bang.com)instead of just the linked article, he put up a video describing what he means a day or two later. It should still be on the front page. As far as I can tell, it's "keeping your elbows in" and flexing, so that you load (put tension on) the biceps at the bottom position of the lift.

edit: it's on the second page, here is a link.

http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2012/06/using-biceps-in-eccentric-portion-of.html
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 03 2012 21:02 GMT
#4978
Try mimicking the movement of the press while flexing your biceps, that's pretty much what he's saying, only with the bar.
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
July 03 2012 21:13 GMT
#4979
If you insist on wearing gloves, make sure they match your purse

- Mark Rippetoe
Stay strong, forever strong!
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
July 03 2012 22:51 GMT
#4980
I can vouch for thumbless grip on OHP being good as well. I started doing it because Wendler recommends it and haven't looked back since. Not dangerous at all unlike with bench press.
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