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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 16 2012 00:16 GMT
#4601
The noticeable discrepancies with front vs back squats is the weight factor isnt it? But safely handling the bar after doing successive reps is a lot easier with front. I've had many bad experiences doing regular squats by myself or without a rack.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 02:20:13
June 16 2012 02:17 GMT
#4602
On June 15 2012 18:35 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 10:59 phyre112 wrote:
Still looking at weightlifting shoes and belts. Just been reading a ton of reviews on shoes... looks like Romaleos are a no, because Ih ave a narrow foot and they're over my budget. I know a guy who has adidas power perfect II, and a guy who has the adistars, so I'll talk to them next time I see them at the gym. As far as everything besides the nikes though... it all seems very up in the air. Saw some 4" leather belts today with the scooped out front where the buckle is, and I realized why the problem with that model... they just don't feel like they cover "enough" to really give support. I wonder if a 6" belt would start to get in the way of motion, but they were out of stock in those, so I didn't get to try one on.


I have the Adidas Power Perfect II and they are fine, but I never had any to compare them to. Regardless, I have used them for a year or so, and so far there is no scratch on them, and they are comfortable. Though since they are mostly white-coloured, they obviously get a little bit dirty. But last time I checked you are not a girl, so whatever.
I have seen plenty of lifters at the Euros 2012 with those shoes, so they are definitely a quality product, and not some overprized scam to get 18y'olds money. Besides, Adidas is basically THE brand in weightlifting, like 80-90% of the professional lifters lift in adidas jerseys and shoes. so you can not really go wrong with adidas.
I believe the main difference between adistars and power perfect II is that the adistars have a wooden sole.



Mine are power perfect II and I can also vouch for them. I've found the sole pretty impressive as well, as most of my shoes (normally fred perrys) the heel wares down quickly and the back of the sole becomes very rounded. These still are as new, though I guess I don't do much walking in them, just around the gym. They're comfortable and completely solid.

With regards to belt it's a very personal thing. Someone I sometimes work out with at the gym has an enormous belt that is just a massive straight belt, and it doesn't fit around my waste properly. It's good for him as he's carrying more fat around his waste, but for me it just cuts into my ribs and pelvis and doesn't support my lower back. I prefer the tapered ones which are narrower at the sides and larger on the back, but you've really got to just try it on and do some movements in it.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 16 2012 02:25 GMT
#4603
On June 16 2012 04:52 Osmoses wrote:
Proper form, agreed, but when I'm at the bottom I feel I can't dump the bar or it will fall right on my knees.

[image loading]

Amirite?



Off-topic, but that picture makes me feel a lot better about my form. I do low bar squats and thought my knees were tracking too far forwards, but that seems fine looking at the picture. Not sure.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 06:41:18
June 16 2012 06:40 GMT
#4604
i feel likes it's more like this
[image loading]
pink line more accurate

In FS, dump forward/down, jump back.
☺
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
June 16 2012 07:10 GMT
#4605
On June 16 2012 05:07 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:06 Zafrumi wrote:
pretty good workout today! only got like 6 hours of sleep last night so I was not very confident going into it, but I channeled the inner decaf and things went pretty well!

started with power cleans:
92.5kg five sets of three (PR)

went on to do stiff legged deadlifts. a buddy was doing the same and we tried to always get one rep more than the other so it went like this

he started with 135kgx6
I went 135x7
so he got 135x8 and then I did 135x9 sadly for me he actually did 135x10 and I was too tired to go again so I guess he won

then for some reason I decided to finish off with squats
60x5
100x1
120x1
140x1
150x1 (PR)

now I'm completely wrecked! gonna lie down and maybe take a hot bath to relax my poor poor legs ^^

stay strong TL H&F!!



Congrats on the PR!

I'm on 155kg 3 x 5 PR .

Suck that yo.<3

Channeling your inner decaf always works.


damn you! insane squat bro
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4735 Posts
June 16 2012 10:04 GMT
#4606
Just came back from the market and bought myself 2,5kg of strawberries.

I love strawberries.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 12:23:12
June 16 2012 12:22 GMT
#4607
On June 16 2012 19:04 Malinor wrote:
Just came back from the market and bought myself 2,5kg of strawberries.

I love strawberries.



They're really good at this time of year. Pretty healthy too, but I'm not sure about the cream.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4735 Posts
June 16 2012 13:13 GMT
#4608
On June 16 2012 21:22 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 19:04 Malinor wrote:
Just came back from the market and bought myself 2,5kg of strawberries.

I love strawberries.



They're really good at this time of year. Pretty healthy too, but I'm not sure about the cream.


Luckily, I don't need cream. I eat them just as they are. Strawberry season is always pretty expensive for me though
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
June 16 2012 15:22 GMT
#4609
Update for the past week:

Set PRs on squats for 3x5 @ 315 lbs and a 1RM of 355 lbs.

Decided that I have the bench press of an overcooked noodle, so deloaded to 190 lbs to get through the plateau. Anyone have any experience with paused BP being especially helpful for progress?

Unrelated to H&F, but played my season 8 placement match and ended up in Master's for the first time ever!
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
June 16 2012 18:03 GMT
#4610
did 90kg bench last night/this morning after drinking for 13hours and we decided to see who could bench the 2nd most (me and 5 other guys)

:D
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 12:06:50
June 16 2012 18:14 GMT
#4611
First time on a very long time, i've tryed squat in the gym.
(Actually first time this year, or second.)

I did manage to pull 140kg 5x3.
Actually, new PR now 170kg 1x1.

And for a few days I did manage to take Dumbell-shoulder press for first time at 45kg (PR)
Workingout with 30kg to 32.5kg.

And with logpress i took 80kg (PR) and almost 85kg, but didnt have enough of biceps power to do that yet :p


Stay strong people!

[image loading]

This is a dumbell on 150kg sick! :D
Stay strong, forever strong!
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 18:17:15
June 16 2012 18:15 GMT
#4612
^ holy hell, that's a huge dumbell.

i did 5 chinups today! progress. 5/3/4

power clean 5x3 success at 60kg today, gonna attempt a plate next time.

bench did 5/5/4 at 115lb, fuck it i'm going to 120 next time.

knee still hurts. haven't squatted past 4 sessions and the pain has only gotten a little bit better. not sure what to do.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 16 2012 18:30 GMT
#4613
Just in case it's not heavy enough, you could probably have 2 people sitting on the sides...
☺
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
June 16 2012 18:38 GMT
#4614

does this make sense?
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 16 2012 19:22 GMT
#4615
On June 16 2012 22:13 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 21:22 Deadeight wrote:
On June 16 2012 19:04 Malinor wrote:
Just came back from the market and bought myself 2,5kg of strawberries.

I love strawberries.



They're really good at this time of year. Pretty healthy too, but I'm not sure about the cream.


Luckily, I don't need cream. I eat them just as they are. Strawberry season is always pretty expensive for me though

I got me a box of raspberrys today. Also blueberries and bananas and pears.

Also a sixpack of beer.

Also a bag of nuts.

And a steak-dinner.

Woops, game's on, bbl!
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
June 16 2012 19:25 GMT
#4616
On June 17 2012 03:38 inimenesc wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BTQebgxi8A
does this make sense?


Before even watching it;

no, because deadlift mechanics are not about absolute height, but rather relative lengths (femurs vs tibia, arm length vs total height).

While watching:

Max attempts are never performed the way he says "perfect" deadlifts should be done. He also spends a bunch of time talking about how to lower the deadlift, which is not important. Just put the damn thing down, controlling the negative is a bad idea. Other than that, he's telling you to stick your but out, and pull your shoulders back, which are good tips for any lifter regardless of height, and he's telling you to pull sumo, which some powerlifters do - but again it's more about arm/femur length than total height. At least he's right that every athlete should deadlift.
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
June 17 2012 01:21 GMT
#4617
On June 17 2012 04:22 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 22:13 Malinor wrote:
On June 16 2012 21:22 Deadeight wrote:
On June 16 2012 19:04 Malinor wrote:
Just came back from the market and bought myself 2,5kg of strawberries.

I love strawberries.



They're really good at this time of year. Pretty healthy too, but I'm not sure about the cream.


Luckily, I don't need cream. I eat them just as they are. Strawberry season is always pretty expensive for me though

I got me a box of raspberrys today. Also blueberries and bananas and pears.

Also a sixpack of beer.

Also a bag of nuts.

And a steak-dinner.

Woops, game's on, bbl!


In a related note, our garden's growing stuff now :D fresh strawberries, peas, beans, tomatoes and lettuce =D
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 12:40:56
June 17 2012 12:24 GMT
#4618
update for those bored

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjIvzoW04fGQdFM0YXVXRXNGVmZpMmZpa0JYM2stYWc

trying...

had 2 weeks off work for misery/depression (lucky me) then another 1 week coz i fractured my ribs falling over in the bathroom (fine at the gym barring bench press liftoff which i cant do myself above like 65kg)

pretty shocked today that my bench hasn't suffered so much. other lifts im still "warming back up to where i was".

ive cut squat from Session B (in SS) because i had been finding it just too much to do powerclean after squatting, since i was struggling most driving from the ground.

anyway im coming back with any luck... been smoking ONLY 2 cigarettes per day for the last ~10 days and wondering when im finally gonna bite the bullet and get the balls to drop it completely.

just had an idea for a new job i can do - become a "live-in carer". thats where you live with a disabled person 24/7. it probably really sucks but then so does my current BS (regular care assistant) but the money should be 1000% better. gtg now

oh also i figured a prob with my squat was i was probably working with too much weight , which caused me to stoop and row my back/abs all the time, which fucked up my back and also didnt work my legs properly. so i am being careful now that if my form deteriorates at all (ie my back/balance falters) then im considering it too heavy.

god i wanna zzz

overall im feeling really good/not awful, tho 1 bad day at work can rape me (when things are particularly hectic). like last week i raped my 2 days off by sleeping then installing and playing TWO games in succession (dead island and then civ5) and then not sleeping before rushing to work on friday lol <- wtf addictive personality?

i am quite relaxed about everything compared to how i was in the past, ie less obsessive about food/gym/posting/everything. which means less worry (i suffer from daily anxiety like a bitch). having said that i should be eating real quick rather than writing this so GG
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
June 17 2012 21:23 GMT
#4619
Finally hit 170kg on my FS on friday. Went for 174 but no luck Put together a 143kg clean and jerk and a 120 snatch too. then i put 2kg on one side and not the other on acccident and still managed to lift it lol~!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
June 17 2012 23:58 GMT
#4620
170kg FS u are such a beast. My raw back squat is around that -_-
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