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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 20 2012 20:48 GMT
#3501
squat: 3x5x142.5kg

whaddup whadduuup!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
April 20 2012 21:14 GMT
#3502
On April 21 2012 02:42 BlondeOnBlonde wrote:
Just a random thought on grip work, extra training and weak points...

I use straps for rows and dimmel deadlifts and I'm still able to pull keep 500lbs+ in my hands for an extended period of time. But then again, I train forearm / grip (and abs too) 5 days a week. You can train those on a regular basis as long as you switch exercises / intensity / volume everytime. A week for abs / forearm and grip for me looks like;

Monday:
Standing pulley abs (4x10-15)

Thuesday:
ADD / ABD and SUP/ PRON wrist work
Light leg raises to ceiling: (80-100 reps)

Thursday:
Grip work
Heavy leg raises (4x6-10)

Friday:
Standing ab wheel: 4-5x6-10

Saturday:

Sunday:

Dragon flag (4-5x15-20)
Concentric grip work with db: 5x4-15
Wrist work

What I found out doing that is, even if I felt locally tired, I could always do better week after week.

You are as strong as your weakest link, and like everything in life, the more you work (quantity and quality), the better your results should be!


Deadlift: 120kgx5, 130x1, 150x1, 165x1, 180x1, 200x1, 212.5x1 (fail twice)

FUUUUUUU My left hand slipped, both times. I'm sure my back can pull it. Could you elaborate exactly on what type of grip work u do? I'm mostly worried about not interfering with my bench press practice.
BlondeOnBlonde
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada150 Posts
April 21 2012 01:40 GMT
#3503
On April 21 2012 06:14 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 02:42 BlondeOnBlonde wrote:
Just a random thought on grip work, extra training and weak points...

I use straps for rows and dimmel deadlifts and I'm still able to pull keep 500lbs+ in my hands for an extended period of time. But then again, I train forearm / grip (and abs too) 5 days a week. You can train those on a regular basis as long as you switch exercises / intensity / volume everytime. A week for abs / forearm and grip for me looks like;

Monday:
Standing pulley abs (4x10-15)

Thuesday:
ADD / ABD and SUP/ PRON wrist work
Light leg raises to ceiling: (80-100 reps)

Thursday:
Grip work
Heavy leg raises (4x6-10)

Friday:
Standing ab wheel: 4-5x6-10

Saturday:

Sunday:

Dragon flag (4-5x15-20)
Concentric grip work with db: 5x4-15
Wrist work

What I found out doing that is, even if I felt locally tired, I could always do better week after week.

You are as strong as your weakest link, and like everything in life, the more you work (quantity and quality), the better your results should be!


Deadlift: 120kgx5, 130x1, 150x1, 165x1, 180x1, 200x1, 212.5x1 (fail twice)

FUUUUUUU My left hand slipped, both times. I'm sure my back can pull it. Could you elaborate exactly on what type of grip work u do? I'm mostly worried about not interfering with my bench press practice.


Training #1 - Wrist work

I find flexions and extension to be a big waste of time when it comes to the grip. But these exercises helped my grip:




I do 3x ABD / ADD super setted, and 3x sup / pron.

Everytime I do this training, I first try to do more reps before moving my hand away from the weight or actually increasing it. It's a must to try to beat what you did the last time you did this kind of stuff. I usually do those 2x a week.

Training #2


Plate pinch

I will hold the plates for 30s sets, or use more weights for 8-12s sets. I don't wave the intensity for a training. It's either all 30s or 10s.

4 to 6 holds

Training #3

DB concentric grip work



I usually do 4-6 sets. Week one is heavy loads for 4-6 reps. Week 2 is more volume, less weight (10-15 reps).

training #4

Heavy DB holds

Same as the plate pinch, but the holds are around 5 to 10s.


I can do a grip training the day before deadlift and it doesn't seem to affect my work. Those are extra trainings, they take 15-20 mins at most and are easy to recover from. But that's me. Go slow on the extra trainings and see how you react. If it's fine, add some, if it's too much, cut some!

Hope it helped!
Cecil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States368 Posts
April 21 2012 01:42 GMT
#3504
Mud runs are always ass expensive. Register during the first week of it's availability and you usually get $20 off. Problem is you gotta get it well in advance. I registered for Tough Mudder Tampa for Dec. 2012 back in January. Only cost 85 bucks :O

On April 19 2012 23:59 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 07:59 Cecil wrote:
My running team (The Regiment) based out in Orlando have now started posting their running results online using Sports Tracker (IOS/Android). I highly recommend it!

http://www.sports-tracker.com/#/workout/neilmurphy/8d6op8ehuo7evjtr

We're doing the Navy Seals 12 week preparation program. Right now we're on week 3.
After our 5k run we did the following:
100 pushups (through 5 sets)
125 crunches (through 5 sets)
12 fully extended chin ups (through 3 sets)

This Saturday we're doing the Tough Training Trials (T3) half marathon ruck/obstacle run in Orlando. It's free and there is free food afterwards. If you want to get in it's not too late. PM me if you want me to get you in.

EDIT: I posted about our previous mud runs in the past. Here is the Warrior Dash from January. Since then we have run the Savage race and a normal 5k event. Next run is the Superhero Scramble..... in July. In FLORIDA. FML.





Free race and food? Lucky
Gotta pay $15-20 for a 5k around here. 60 something for a Warrior Dash and 100+ for Tough Mudder.

www.regimentrunning.com
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
April 21 2012 02:35 GMT
#3505
On April 21 2012 10:42 Cecil wrote:
Mud runs are always ass expensive. Register during the first week of it's availability and you usually get $20 off. Problem is you gotta get it well in advance. I registered for Tough Mudder Tampa for Dec. 2012 back in January. Only cost 85 bucks :O

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:59 mordek wrote:
On April 19 2012 07:59 Cecil wrote:
My running team (The Regiment) based out in Orlando have now started posting their running results online using Sports Tracker (IOS/Android). I highly recommend it!

http://www.sports-tracker.com/#/workout/neilmurphy/8d6op8ehuo7evjtr

We're doing the Navy Seals 12 week preparation program. Right now we're on week 3.
After our 5k run we did the following:
100 pushups (through 5 sets)
125 crunches (through 5 sets)
12 fully extended chin ups (through 3 sets)

This Saturday we're doing the Tough Training Trials (T3) half marathon ruck/obstacle run in Orlando. It's free and there is free food afterwards. If you want to get in it's not too late. PM me if you want me to get you in.

EDIT: I posted about our previous mud runs in the past. Here is the Warrior Dash from January. Since then we have run the Savage race and a normal 5k event. Next run is the Superhero Scramble..... in July. In FLORIDA. FML.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVhpKPgiYQA&feature=player_embedded


Free race and food? Lucky
Gotta pay $15-20 for a 5k around here. 60 something for a Warrior Dash and 100+ for Tough Mudder.



The Warrior Dash I'm signed up for was cheap, my university is covering most of the cost, and travel to the site of the race. Only $10 for something that should have cost ~$75!
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
April 21 2012 09:41 GMT
#3506
sounds like a student body worth getting into
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
April 21 2012 10:30 GMT
#3507
I should prolly spend more time on grip training. Thanks for the videos Blonde

For the last month or so I have been having a really hard time sleeping, I can't remember sleeping more than 5 hours straight for several months. I get about 6-7 hours of sleep every day. I wake up about 1 hour before I have to get up, so I just lie there wasting time. Been really annoying, especially since I know how important it is for recovery. I feel really tired when I go to bed, but it still takes me forever to fall asleep.

Maybe I should pick up running again, that made me sleep like a rock
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 12:21:49
April 21 2012 12:17 GMT
#3508
pee before bed. then do it again
go to bed at 10pm and leave yourself 11-12 hours
sleep with computer hum on if you recently removed it
pee and drink a water as soon as you notice ur awake
quit smoking cold turkey or dont quit at all, half assing it will fuck you
overdose on codeine painkillers before bed
no cocacola/caffeine in evening

the key to sleeping is peace of mind; the key to getting back to sleep is pee and a drink asap
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
April 21 2012 12:54 GMT
#3509
I do all of that pretty much, except for the codeine painkiller part. I don't drink sodas, and I only take caffeine for working out. Whenever I want to go to sleep my mind wanders and I end up not being able to sleep at all. I sleep like a baby if I'm travelling tho, whenever I'm in a train/car/airplane I fall asleep immediately.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 12:55:43
April 21 2012 12:55 GMT
#3510
On April 21 2012 21:54 KOVU wrote:
I do all of that pretty much, except for the codeine painkiller part. I don't drink sodas, and I only take caffeine for working out. Whenever I want to go to sleep my mind wanders and I end up not being able to sleep at all. I sleep like a baby if I'm travelling tho, whenever I'm in a train/car/airplane I fall asleep immediately.


Tried breathing exercises/meditation to help you get to sleep? If I'm exhausted and my mind is running around crazy, controlled breathing can help a lot.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
April 21 2012 12:59 GMT
#3511
On April 21 2012 21:55 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 21:54 KOVU wrote:
I do all of that pretty much, except for the codeine painkiller part. I don't drink sodas, and I only take caffeine for working out. Whenever I want to go to sleep my mind wanders and I end up not being able to sleep at all. I sleep like a baby if I'm travelling tho, whenever I'm in a train/car/airplane I fall asleep immediately.


Tried breathing exercises/meditation to help you get to sleep? If I'm exhausted and my mind is running around crazy, controlled breathing can help a lot.

Never done anything like that no, I think I will give it a go. Thanks!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 21 2012 13:06 GMT
#3512
On April 21 2012 21:59 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 21:55 JingleHell wrote:
On April 21 2012 21:54 KOVU wrote:
I do all of that pretty much, except for the codeine painkiller part. I don't drink sodas, and I only take caffeine for working out. Whenever I want to go to sleep my mind wanders and I end up not being able to sleep at all. I sleep like a baby if I'm travelling tho, whenever I'm in a train/car/airplane I fall asleep immediately.


Tried breathing exercises/meditation to help you get to sleep? If I'm exhausted and my mind is running around crazy, controlled breathing can help a lot.

Never done anything like that no, I think I will give it a go. Thanks!


I don't suggest trying anything excessively wonky, by the way. Unless you're into meditation anyways, it will make your mind wander more trying to control it. But just slow, measured breathing, in through the nose, out through the mouth, like you might use to catch your breath and get your heart rate under control after exercise can be helpful.

Inhale for a 4-6 count, exhale for 6-8.
Cecil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States368 Posts
April 21 2012 16:19 GMT
#3513
Damn, nice. How did you manage to do that?


By the way, if anybody else has sports tracker add me. We can have a TL group on there and we can share all of our runs and rides!



On April 21 2012 11:35 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 10:42 Cecil wrote:
Mud runs are always ass expensive. Register during the first week of it's availability and you usually get $20 off. Problem is you gotta get it well in advance. I registered for Tough Mudder Tampa for Dec. 2012 back in January. Only cost 85 bucks :O

On April 19 2012 23:59 mordek wrote:
On April 19 2012 07:59 Cecil wrote:
My running team (The Regiment) based out in Orlando have now started posting their running results online using Sports Tracker (IOS/Android). I highly recommend it!

http://www.sports-tracker.com/#/workout/neilmurphy/8d6op8ehuo7evjtr

We're doing the Navy Seals 12 week preparation program. Right now we're on week 3.
After our 5k run we did the following:
100 pushups (through 5 sets)
125 crunches (through 5 sets)
12 fully extended chin ups (through 3 sets)

This Saturday we're doing the Tough Training Trials (T3) half marathon ruck/obstacle run in Orlando. It's free and there is free food afterwards. If you want to get in it's not too late. PM me if you want me to get you in.

EDIT: I posted about our previous mud runs in the past. Here is the Warrior Dash from January. Since then we have run the Savage race and a normal 5k event. Next run is the Superhero Scramble..... in July. In FLORIDA. FML.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVhpKPgiYQA&feature=player_embedded


Free race and food? Lucky
Gotta pay $15-20 for a 5k around here. 60 something for a Warrior Dash and 100+ for Tough Mudder.



The Warrior Dash I'm signed up for was cheap, my university is covering most of the cost, and travel to the site of the race. Only $10 for something that should have cost ~$75!

www.regimentrunning.com
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 17:59:54
April 21 2012 17:59 GMT
#3514
BP: 95kgx2x3, 105x2x3, 115x2x3, 125x1 (PR), 127.5x1 (PR)



Fck yeah. Wanted 2,5kg PR, but it was so ez decided to try again. Kinda makes up for failing deadlift yesterday. Did some grip work as well (thx BlondeOnBlonde), will do on mondays and fridays. Hopefully my hands dont limit my strength next month.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#3515
Well done buddy. Looked so easy
Official Entusman #21
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
April 21 2012 21:12 GMT
#3516
On April 22 2012 01:19 Cecil wrote:
Damn, nice. How did you manage to do that?


By the way, if anybody else has sports tracker add me. We can have a TL group on there and we can share all of our runs and rides!



Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:35 phyre112 wrote:
On April 21 2012 10:42 Cecil wrote:
Mud runs are always ass expensive. Register during the first week of it's availability and you usually get $20 off. Problem is you gotta get it well in advance. I registered for Tough Mudder Tampa for Dec. 2012 back in January. Only cost 85 bucks :O

On April 19 2012 23:59 mordek wrote:
On April 19 2012 07:59 Cecil wrote:
My running team (The Regiment) based out in Orlando have now started posting their running results online using Sports Tracker (IOS/Android). I highly recommend it!

http://www.sports-tracker.com/#/workout/neilmurphy/8d6op8ehuo7evjtr

We're doing the Navy Seals 12 week preparation program. Right now we're on week 3.
After our 5k run we did the following:
100 pushups (through 5 sets)
125 crunches (through 5 sets)
12 fully extended chin ups (through 3 sets)

This Saturday we're doing the Tough Training Trials (T3) half marathon ruck/obstacle run in Orlando. It's free and there is free food afterwards. If you want to get in it's not too late. PM me if you want me to get you in.

EDIT: I posted about our previous mud runs in the past. Here is the Warrior Dash from January. Since then we have run the Savage race and a normal 5k event. Next run is the Superhero Scramble..... in July. In FLORIDA. FML.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVhpKPgiYQA&feature=player_embedded


Free race and food? Lucky
Gotta pay $15-20 for a 5k around here. 60 something for a Warrior Dash and 100+ for Tough Mudder.



The Warrior Dash I'm signed up for was cheap, my university is covering most of the cost, and travel to the site of the race. Only $10 for something that should have cost ~$75!



It's sponsored through a new health initiative. They've got a bunch of new diet programs, nutrition speakers, fitness classes, "stress relievers" and trips to nearby events. The Warrior Dash is one of them, they sponsored 40 spots to students for $10 each.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4749 Posts
April 21 2012 21:38 GMT
#3517
Great Bench Press GoTunk!
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 02:35:17
April 22 2012 01:52 GMT
#3518
how important is drinking water for muscle growth?

asking because all the information i've gotten is : drink it, it's good, and if you eat protein you're gonna need water.

Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
April 22 2012 02:09 GMT
#3519
Just anecdotaly I would say that it's very important. Every process in your body uses water so it's good to keep hydrated.

Beyond purely nutrition it helps immensely with the training side of things. I find I'm more stiff before, during and after my workouts when I'm dehydrated. This makes individual workouts less effective.

There's no real reason not to drink enough water in western countries apart from laziness. So drink drink drink.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
April 22 2012 08:05 GMT
#3520
Great bench GoTunk!
The hardest part looked like unracking it lol, the descent and ascent looked easy.

I have a question to most of you guys. When does one stop SS? I have been squatting 3x5 three times a week for a while now. I squat 107kg for 3x5, DL 126kg for 1x5 and I weigh ~76kg.

My progress has been really slow lately, but still some progress. I would like to try a routine focused on squatting, but I'm still only within the intermediate range according to exrx.net
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