EPTwatch like rocky or the fighter or something and grab the soundtrack
caffeine helps a lot too
idk about the rest lol
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
watch like rocky or the fighter or something and grab the soundtrack caffeine helps a lot too idk about the rest lol | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 27 2012 19:24 bITt.mAN wrote: Bodyweight Training, COME BACK TO THE FRONT PAGE! <: + Show Spoiler [Long Version] + + Show Spoiler [Rant] + I do not exercise to just be a number, not just be a mass or a diameter or a picture. I’m not one to be too comfortable putting all my numbers out on the internet to be judged immediately at face value. Yes aiming to have a nice body is nice, but what I’m far more focused on (in terms of physical progression) is being able ‘to do cool things’. That’s why I love bodyweight training, cause I don’t have to pay a cent to some sweaty gym just to pump up my ego, since that’s NOT what I’m looking for, but can still train in a way that leads to doing large, dynamic, FUN moves. As an example, I’m sure a rowing machine is a great workout and you can get all strapping from it, but the exercise and result is the most repetitive, brain-dead boring thing ever! Yup, there’s a lot of room for creativity, self-expression and musicality on the rowing machine ^^ ! Granted I do do ‘dull’ repetitive strengthening exercises, but not as an ends in themselves, but as a means to progressing to doing what I call ‘fun stuff’. Ok end of rant here’s my question. I haven’t been eating very much recently but I can change that (vegetables and protein yummm). The job I’m working right now is quite draining and tiring. The hours aren’t that bad, but throw in the 45min bike ride commute each way, I’m quite tired at the end of the day. Before I took up riding my bike here (I’m at work now), I would go BreakDance training 3 times a week at the local mall after hours, but the work’s gotten a lot more demanding and I find I’m too tired to go train. There’s no magic fix, but what sort of questions should I be asking myself, and thinking about, pertaining to motivation? I planned this summer as one where I’d really progress and finally achieve some really hard moves I’ve been working towards for a while. But it seems like I’ve let the opportunities slip by, instead of grabbing and using them, and now I feel back in my old rut/downwards spiral of not progressing, feeling down about it, thus being de-motivated and working even less etc... The irony is, most of what I’m lacking now isn’t technique or mental understanding, its brute force determination and discipline to force my body to practice regularly until I’ve developed the musculature and strength necessary to do the stuff. Don’t worry about safety and pushing myself too hard. On the contrary I’ve always been one to highly prioritize mobility and not overstraining to keep up flexibility and minimize ‘down time’/’potential injuries’ (I’ve already had enough injuries to learn not to be too bull-headed and stupidly hurt myself by going too hard). You can read lots of stuff online tailored for people trying to use their (upper-)bodies like moo-cows (put on meat, to eat). But what guidelines/resources are there explaining training mentality and ‘how far you push yourself in a session’ with a gymnast’s focus. I did some as a kid, got injured for my life, and can only get back into it now, and didn’t get that training ): Would getting “Defying Gravity” be a good idea for explaining that mindset? Well, I’m gonna get it anyways, but I’m just gauging if I should wait till Christmas, or get it tomorrow ^^ I’m happy writing this much as I’d rather do this than job ATM. TL;DR: [Universal] In a tiring lifestyle, what are the things you think about to get you motivated to go train. [Bodyweight] How do I gauge ‘how hard I train per session’ to not limit mobility and flexibility (I stretch a shit-ton) while still getting enough power for big movezz (e.g. gymnastics “Thomas”, powermoves in general etc.). [Eshlow] Are there things your book covers which, in your experience, guys like me wouldn’t know they’re lacking? I’m also assistant teacher for BreakDance classes back in Uni, is your book a good resource for giving people basic progression training advice? Not sure if I was supposed to comment on the spoiler since no questions in it? Anyway, Universal -- nothing really to be honest. The biggest thing is just consistency, and once you GET consistency it becomes habit. And habit becomes progress. So just FORCE yourself to do things for a couple months and then it will come naturally. I can't really say anything beyond that because different people get hyped up for different things -- some want the aesthetics, some want the strength, some want to show off to their friends, whatever. Basically, whatever floats your boat to get you training is good. Bodyweight -- If you're used to working out a decent amount I would aim to strength train 2-3x per week, and be doing sports/discipline specific practice at least 3-4 if not a couple more times. If that makes sense... generally speaking, you train to what your routine is made out of, and that is best for beginners to learn what works for them. eshlow -- Well, the book covers 3 topics mainly: 1. How to construct a workout routine (120 pages) on all of the science, programming, logic that goes into constructing one towards your goals. + 30 pages of sample programming to show how different types of routines are built. 2. Health and injuries -- mobility work, flexibility work, potential injuries and how to approach them, and lifestyle stuff (120 pages) 3. 260 pages on exercise technique, descriptions, illustrations So.... yes, it's a very good book for those looking to start out with bodyweight strength type stuff. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3689 Posts
How is it that you can afford to be (just about) an on-demand professional consultant , on some wayward forum like TeamLiquid? I'm thinking in terms of just the sheer amount of support you provide for this sub-forum. Like, you could totally make money off this kind of service. Actually, do already do, and here's some delightful irony: Your post in my thread about downloading copywrited books for free On January 12 2012 23:30 eshlow wrote: As an author, yes, this is actually very important. I can't produce good quality info/books/etc. if I don't have financial support.... My book sales go towards paying off my financial debt from school. I pretty much expect piracy as an inevitability, but I would like to think that those who do pirate would eventually support me in some way so I can continue to write about stuff people like to hear While I do look for the cheaper deal (.co.uk today for instance), I'll certainly pay you, in no small part as I know if I have any questions....... | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 28 2012 20:29 bITt.mAN wrote: Thanks! I'll order it today since it seems simply delightful. By the way, its so awesome that we have you constantly checking and posting on the forums, its such a fantastic support and resource. How is it that you can afford to be (just about) an on-demand professional consultant , on some wayward forum like TeamLiquid? I'm thinking in terms of just the sheer amount of support you provide for this sub-forum. Like, you could totally make money off this kind of service. Actually, do already do, and here's some delightful irony: Your post in my thread about downloading copywrited books for free While I do look for the cheaper deal (.co.uk today for instance), I'll certainly pay you, in no small part as I know if I have any questions....... I browse quite a few forums though I've cut it down now actually to far fewer as I have less time. Full time internships now. SC was a big part of my life growing up so I thought I could contribute by giving some stuff back. Biggest thing was just writing the OPs for most of the threads; most of these posts in the thread take me very little time fortunately.  In any case, I provide lots of free infos and time because I like to educate/teach people and that's originally what my site was based off of. But yes, if you got any questions or need any routines critiques feel free to hit me up after reading the book. And yes, I remember that thread. Still have substantial debt from school that I need book sales to help pay off haha. | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
Main goal at this stage would be handstand pushups. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 31 2012 08:58 Ludrik wrote: I impulse bought your book last night Eshlow. Finally realised (well I've always known) that I hate most upper body barbell exercises, especially bench. I find it much more enjoyable doing things like weighted pushups, handstands, etc. Main goal at this stage would be handstand pushups. Read through and if you have any questions let me know, and also if you need a routine critique I can provide some. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2571 Posts
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4thHatchery
Finland125 Posts
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3689 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
It looks so freaking awesome. How good is this tutorial btw? | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 01 2012 15:05 AirbladeOrange wrote: Does anyone have any good exercises for abs/core that are difficult? I'm looking for new and challenging things to do. L-sit/V-sit/manna ab wheel hanging leg raises RKC plank Anything lying on your back tends to be crap and not worth the time (see situps, crunches, bicycles, etc.). | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:06 Cambium wrote: Gonna try to do a muscle up next time in gym It looks so freaking awesome. How good is this tutorial btw? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpk1a_PxEw4 Meh, it's decent if you want to learn it with momentum. If you want to learn it strict then you need to work on your false grip so you can get over the bar, or have really good explosive pulling strength flip over your arms | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:55 eshlow wrote: Meh, it's decent if you want to learn it with momentum. If you want to learn it strict then you need to work on your false grip so you can get over the bar, or have really good explosive pulling strength flip over your arms Why would you not start with some swing? I have to think there is no better progression to working towards a static MU than actually doing them with a less and less kip. plus its 100x more satisfying to actually do the skill than just grinding out weighted pullups or whatever for ages. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 02 2012 23:11 sob3k wrote: Why would you not start with some swing? I have to think there is no better progression to working towards a static MU than actually doing them with a less and less kip. plus its 100x more satisfying to actually do the skill than just grinding out weighted pullups or whatever for ages. I don't recommend grinding out weighted pullups. If you have 5 solid chest to bar pullups, and 5 deep dips you can probably get a muscle up if you work on the transition. I generally don't advise much momentum for new people because it's different motor patterns with the swing (because you have the forward/backward momentum as you can see in the vid) than it is with a strict muscle up. Strict bar muscle up is definitely harder than a strict rings muscle up though. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 03 2012 00:31 eshlow wrote: I don't recommend grinding out weighted pullups. If you have 5 solid chest to bar pullups, and 5 deep dips you can probably get a muscle up if you work on the transition. I generally don't advise much momentum for new people because it's different motor patterns with the swing (because you have the forward/backward momentum as you can see in the vid) than it is with a strict muscle up. Strict bar muscle up is definitely harder than a strict rings muscle up though. I think the difference between a ring MU and a bar MU is much bigger than doing it with a bit of swing. A real dead hang bar is actually really hard, especially with decent technique. There is no way I could see someone who can only do 5 solid pulls having near the power to do one. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 03 2012 09:52 sob3k wrote: I think the difference between a ring MU and a bar MU is much bigger than doing it with a bit of swing. A real dead hang bar is actually really hard, especially with decent technique. There is no way I could see someone who can only do 5 solid pulls having near the power to do one. I would agree with that. I was generally talking about a rings MU. You probably need at least 8-10 solid for the strict bar MU. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
The only question I have before getting into anything is, is it reasonable to be able to gain some mass while doing strictly BW type of training? (I'm not looking to get huge - i have a fairly slim, but fit figure right now at 5"9 ~140, and am looking at probably gaining 20 pounds or so while still staying cut) ps. are there any good protein supplements or things along that line that people can recommend that they put in shakes etc that they've had success with/know actually help, because besides really liking shakes i have a hard time eating a lot and ive ascertained that is quite helpful when trying to gain mass. Thanks! | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 03 2012 10:43 Divinek wrote: I am definitely definitely going to start getting into more BW training type stuff and im so happy that there's actually a TL thread for it and a resident expert! (and what appears to be an awesome book for the exact type of learnings that i like) The only question I have before getting into anything is, is it reasonable to be able to gain some mass while doing strictly BW type of training? (I'm not looking to get huge - i have a fairly slim, but fit figure right now at 5"9 ~140, and am looking at probably gaining 20 pounds or so while still staying cut) ps. are there any good protein supplements or things along that line that people can recommend that they put in shakes etc that they've had success with/know actually help, because besides really liking shakes i have a hard time eating a lot and ive ascertained that is quite helpful when trying to gain mass. Thanks! Yes, of course. Although it will take longer than with weights since weights are superior to gain hypertrophy with. As long as you stay in general 5-12ish rep range and increase the difficulty with your exercises and eat enough to put on the muscle mass you should be able to gain it. Whey supplements can obviously help if you need more protein, but in general you'll want to get most of your calories and protein from real foods, as those have the nutrients in them. Any other questions? | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
I have other friends that are more on the overweight side and are looking to lose weight/get fit and stuff, do you think this is reasonable for people who arent really in shape to start pure BW and acheive good fat/weight loss and what not or would it be too hard for them as a starting point? Also this may sound overly vague but i dont think i really know how to 'eat enough' to gain mass. I've been consciously trying to always eat more as of late but ive had no luck in gaining anything, should i start calorie counting? Are there easier ways? How do i know how much i should be eating relative to how much im working out if im doing BW stuffs? | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 03 2012 12:34 Divinek wrote: Hmm I have other friends that are more on the overweight side and are looking to lose weight/get fit and stuff, do you think this is reasonable for people who arent really in shape to start pure BW and acheive good fat/weight loss and what not or would it be too hard for them as a starting point? Also this may sound overly vague but i dont think i really know how to 'eat enough' to gain mass. I've been consciously trying to always eat more as of late but ive had no luck in gaining anything, should i start calorie counting? Are there easier ways? How do i know how much i should be eating relative to how much im working out if im doing BW stuffs? Since fat loss/weight loss is going to be at least 85+% in the diet, it doesn't really matter what they do for exercise. People should do what they want for exercise. Generally speaking, however, weight training or bodyweight strength/hypertrophy training tends to be better than traditional cardio and whatever just because it stimulates more muscle mass and strength, and almost everyone now can use more muscle mass and more strength. Calorie counting would be good. I would suggest eating until you feel full at every meal. And then eating a bit more. If that doesn't work, eat until you feel sick at every meal. Your stomach will slowly expand as you consistently eat more. | ||
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