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On September 28 2012 07:46 Ludrik wrote:
So I've read ~half of overcoming gravity so far. I like the way it's laid out, which makes it very easy to read and there's plenty of funny typos to keep you laughing.
I'm starting to formulate a bit of an idea in my head of what I want to do. I'm thinking 3 days a week (Mon/Wed/Fri) centered around these progressions:
- Planche
- Manna
- Handstands
- Pullup variations
This will be in addition to my regular weights workouts that are basically either squatting or deadlifting each day Monday to Friday. Might add barbell rows in 2-3 days a week to give me a horizontal pulling exercise.
So far I've just been experimenting doing wall handstands, frog stance and pullups.
I've been trying to do a tuck L-sit on the floor and can't quite get it. I can do it if my shoulders are slightly in front of my hands, but can't do it with the slight lean back that's shown in the picture in the book. I can just get the slight backwards lean for about a second if I do it off of these parralette/pushup grip things I've got.
Then I guess the main other thing will be to work on my wrist flexibility which completely sucks. I can only get about a 45 degree angle between my wrist and hand with straight fingers (~75-80 with closed fist). I've been starting to work in front squats so hopefully that will help to speed up the process.
Hamstring flexibility also needs a lot of work. I haven't been able to touch my toes since I was about 16 (currently 22) so I guess that's a good goal.
lol, yeah on the typos... professional editing is coming for the 2nd edition sometime late next year.
This looks pretty solid in combined with the barbell work that you're going to do.
3x a week full body for all of them or...? What would a typical week look like?
Definitely sounds like wrists and hamstrings need work though.
Let me know if you need anymore help!
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It should give you more control over your balancing if you curl up your fingers like that instead of leaving them limp flat on the ground.
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Hello. Does anybody have any good progressions they have used successfully for planche and handstand pushups?
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That looks like exactly what I was getting at, thanks eshlow
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Thanks alot! Very helpful!!
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After reading through some of your book I'm trying to put together a routine for my upper body and I'm wondering what a good workload is for a beginner.
Right now I'm doing...
Push/Horiz - Pushup
Pull/Horiz - Row
Push/Vert - Dip
Pull/Vert - Pullup
Am I classifying these correctly? Is it enough?
Should I start including progressions on static holds I want to achieve even though I have no strength, ie I can barely do 2 pullups.
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Just got my book for my birthday! :D
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switched to body weight for a week now and im feeling so much better than when I was doing 5v5. I think its because its something new my body has to adapt to so I feel that there's "progress"
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On October 10 2012 13:45 Marimokkori wrote:
After reading through some of your book I'm trying to put together a routine for my upper body and I'm wondering what a good workload is for a beginner.
Right now I'm doing...
Push/Horiz - Pushup
Pull/Horiz - Row
Push/Vert - Dip
Pull/Vert - Pullup
Am I classifying these correctly? Is it enough?
Should I start including progressions on static holds I want to achieve even though I have no strength, ie I can barely do 2 pullups.
Oops! Sorry I didn't see this post..
What you have up there is great.
Don't do static holds yet if you can't do them. There's no point.
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On October 20 2012 12:18 mordek wrote:
Just got my book for my birthday! :D
Sweet. Let me know what you think & any questions you have.
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On October 20 2012 22:27 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 13:45 Marimokkori wrote:
After reading through some of your book I'm trying to put together a routine for my upper body and I'm wondering what a good workload is for a beginner.
Right now I'm doing...
Push/Horiz - Pushup
Pull/Horiz - Row
Push/Vert - Dip
Pull/Vert - Pullup
Am I classifying these correctly? Is it enough?
Should I start including progressions on static holds I want to achieve even though I have no strength, ie I can barely do 2 pullups.
Oops! Sorry I didn't see this post.. What you have up there is great. Don't do static holds yet if you can't do them. There's no point.
How do I know when to start including them? Occasionally try the first progression of a series, or is there some benchmark to hit first?
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On October 22 2012 01:58 Marimokkori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 22:27 eshlow wrote:On October 10 2012 13:45 Marimokkori wrote:
After reading through some of your book I'm trying to put together a routine for my upper body and I'm wondering what a good workload is for a beginner.
Right now I'm doing...
Push/Horiz - Pushup
Pull/Horiz - Row
Push/Vert - Dip
Pull/Vert - Pullup
Am I classifying these correctly? Is it enough?
Should I start including progressions on static holds I want to achieve even though I have no strength, ie I can barely do 2 pullups.
Oops! Sorry I didn't see this post.. What you have up there is great. Don't do static holds yet if you can't do them. There's no point. How do I know when to start including them? Occasionally try the first progression of a series, or is there some benchmark to hit first?
When you can start doing longer holds as per isometric charts:
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2012/05/prilepin-tables-for-bodyweight-strength-isometric-and-eccentric-exercises
Then they replace push and pull exercises as necessary
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On October 22 2012 02:42 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:58 Marimokkori wrote:On October 20 2012 22:27 eshlow wrote:On October 10 2012 13:45 Marimokkori wrote:
After reading through some of your book I'm trying to put together a routine for my upper body and I'm wondering what a good workload is for a beginner.
Right now I'm doing...
Push/Horiz - Pushup
Pull/Horiz - Row
Push/Vert - Dip
Pull/Vert - Pullup
Am I classifying these correctly? Is it enough?
Should I start including progressions on static holds I want to achieve even though I have no strength, ie I can barely do 2 pullups.
Oops! Sorry I didn't see this post.. What you have up there is great. Don't do static holds yet if you can't do them. There's no point. How do I know when to start including them? Occasionally try the first progression of a series, or is there some benchmark to hit first? When you can start doing longer holds as per isometric charts: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2012/05/prilepin-tables-for-bodyweight-strength-isometric-and-eccentric-exercisesThen they replace push and pull exercises as necessary
Thank you.
Also, I think it's great that you offer this thread and are so generous with answering questions about the content of your book. I wish more authors did that.
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On October 22 2012 13:16 Marimokkori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 02:42 eshlow wrote:On October 22 2012 01:58 Marimokkori wrote:On October 20 2012 22:27 eshlow wrote:On October 10 2012 13:45 Marimokkori wrote:
After reading through some of your book I'm trying to put together a routine for my upper body and I'm wondering what a good workload is for a beginner.
Right now I'm doing...
Push/Horiz - Pushup
Pull/Horiz - Row
Push/Vert - Dip
Pull/Vert - Pullup
Am I classifying these correctly? Is it enough?
Should I start including progressions on static holds I want to achieve even though I have no strength, ie I can barely do 2 pullups.
Oops! Sorry I didn't see this post.. What you have up there is great. Don't do static holds yet if you can't do them. There's no point. How do I know when to start including them? Occasionally try the first progression of a series, or is there some benchmark to hit first? When you can start doing longer holds as per isometric charts: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2012/05/prilepin-tables-for-bodyweight-strength-isometric-and-eccentric-exercisesThen they replace push and pull exercises as necessary Thank you. Also, I think it's great that you offer this thread and are so generous with answering questions about the content of your book. I wish more authors did that.
You're welcome!
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<3 Overcoming Gravity, so <3 you too eshlow ! I will be posting excessively to that effect pretty soon, when I finish enough of my procrastinated course-work to be able to read ALL the things.
1. Equipment? This year I've decided to live in University Halls of Residence ('dorms'), and have no nifty vertical thing anywhere to hang RINGS from. Wouldn't it be too constrictive in a door-frame hanging from a pullup bar? I would be concerned to bash my hands 'n stuff... What I was considering would be getting a door-frame pullup-bar, (wooden) rings, and (pushup) paralletes. I mean, how else would I be able to do any 'pulls' ? I don't want that caveman look now
2. Breakdance. This is a great resource, primarily in how it teaches and equips you to construct your own routine and plan. Up to this point, learning hard moves has been "well, practice it x3 a week. Oh, you're sore? Lol then don't practice that move". To progress from now on, I seriously need a proper (progression) plan, to be more efficient and effective in my training, and to actually use science rather than superstition in home fitness.
In terms of goals, rings things are really cool .... but I wanna fly, and there is never any material or information available on 'how to structure your training, to reach those big moves' so your advice and guidance will be invaluable, and also directly beneficial to the multiple people I'll pass it on to.
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1. Doorway pullup bar and then you can hang rings off of them works pretty well. You can always adjust the rings up and down as necessary. Parallettes are optional, but usually a good option.
2. Breakdancing will become much easier to do as you get stronger.
However, the main problem is that generally the best way to learn is to have a coach of some sort -- someone that is better than you in that specific area and/or knows how to teach the skills.
The problem with the "how to structure your training" type stuff is that even as I wrote a book on how to construct a routine it varies widely from person to person how much progress you can get in certain sessions due to genetics, sleep, training intensity, nutrition, body awareness, strength, etc. so getting big moves may take someone a month whereas it might take someone else a year. That's the frustrating part because some people are more movement gifted than others. Hence, why a coach is so useful because they typically have gone through the mistakes that you go through and gthey know how to coach you through it
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I'm having trouble starting on the L-sit progressions, more specifically the starting level tuck L sit.
It feels like my arms are too short. The only way I get off the ground is for my torso to lean forward, which puts my hips back which doesn't look right. And my arms feel even shorter when I try to face my hands backward. Is this a pure strength issue? (I do like 40s wall handstands and 4x4 pullups as reference). Or am I lacking proper technique?
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