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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 29 2012 12:54 GMT
#341
On October 29 2012 12:05 slOosh wrote:
I'm having trouble starting on the L-sit progressions, more specifically the starting level tuck L sit.

It feels like my arms are too short. The only way I get off the ground is for my torso to lean forward, which puts my hips back which doesn't look right. And my arms feel even shorter when I try to face my hands backward. Is this a pure strength issue? (I do like 40s wall handstands and 4x4 pullups as reference). Or am I lacking proper technique?


Could just be your arms are short and you have to get used to maximally depressing them.

If you need to, start with 2 chairs to elevate yourself if you don't have parallettes
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 02 2012 02:23 GMT
#342
Are dips going to be more helpful than bench press? My long-term goals are as of right now (still working on my routine while continuing lifting) are handstand push up, planche, manna, one arm chin up.

Also, I feel like I may be doing something wrong with dips. I never had an issue until a few months ago when I was adding more and more weight. Pain at different parts of the clavicle, different sides, that goes away after the exercise. Any cues or form I should be checking/aware of?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 02 2012 04:04 GMT
#343
Yes, Wendler loves dips for helping pressing and so do I.

If you can vid yourself that would be ideal. Keep your scapulas depressed and retracted if possible... and if you need to stretch out your pecs and do more shoulder mobility work that may help too.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 02:05:26
November 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#344
I've found a new long term goal.


I'll probably post an update later today or tomorrow on my progress with BW stuff so far. To sum it up there's been no real advancement from one skill to the next. Shoulders feel amazingly healthy though. Anyway gotta run off now to my final undergrad exam!
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 12 2012 05:10 GMT
#345
Eh, there's really no such thing as a walking straddle planche because a planche requires that the arms be kept STRAIGHT the entire time. Obviously guy is not doing that above...

Post up everything if you're going to post so I can see what you were/are doing.

You should be making progress from workout to workout, generally, so if there's no progress in a week you need to change something around unless you are already advanced level strength
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 12 2012 13:51 GMT
#346
This has been humbling. I can bench more than my bodyweight but can't do the straight arm tuck planche.

Does anyone have an example of how they track your progress? Like format-wise. It's just not as apparent to me as tracking weightlifting.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 12 2012 14:56 GMT
#347
On November 12 2012 22:51 mordek wrote:
This has been humbling. I can bench more than my bodyweight but can't do the straight arm tuck planche.

Does anyone have an example of how they track your progress? Like format-wise. It's just not as apparent to me as tracking weightlifting.


If you have a weight vest it makes things easier.

Otherwise, for static/isometrics you want to add 1-2s per workout. Work up to 3x20-25ish or so then try to move on if you can

For regular reps try to add 1 per workout or so... work up to about 8 or thereabout then move onto the next progression
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 12 2012 17:56 GMT
#348
On November 12 2012 23:56 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 22:51 mordek wrote:
This has been humbling. I can bench more than my bodyweight but can't do the straight arm tuck planche.

Does anyone have an example of how they track your progress? Like format-wise. It's just not as apparent to me as tracking weightlifting.


If you have a weight vest it makes things easier.

Otherwise, for static/isometrics you want to add 1-2s per workout. Work up to 3x20-25ish or so then try to move on if you can

For regular reps try to add 1 per workout or so... work up to about 8 or thereabout then move onto the next progression

Thanks Eshlow. I know I need to reread through the programming again. Need to focus and stop putting it off so I can start the process of becoming awesome now
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
November 13 2012 05:46 GMT
#349
Ive only been strictly working on upper body for the past 2 years. All my friends keep telling me to work on legs, I tried it once (did deadlifts) about a couple months back. My legs literally turned to jello and I wasnt able to go running for an entire week. After that I never wanted to do legs again.

But now my friend convinced me again, but to start with something small. We did leg presses, calves, and thighs. And Ill tell you. I love to run, but after resting for a couple days, my legs felt like I could run for ages. I suddenly realized how important leg strength is. I was always petrified that if I worked on legs itd look ugly and bulgy, but just doing extended low sets and your strength goes up exponentially. I wish I was doing this from the beginning. I love to run and working on legs lets me do that even more now.

Anyways, I think Im gonna do a full leg workout every friday from now on. I like to run during the weekdays, and I always chill out and relax during the weekends so it works out pretty well. But what are some good leg work outs I could do to help me with running? Mostly for stamina. Should I be focusing on the calf region in particular?

Thanks in advance.
Skol
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 13:53:47
November 13 2012 13:52 GMT
#350
On November 13 2012 14:46 Emnjay808 wrote:
Ive only been strictly working on upper body for the past 2 years. All my friends keep telling me to work on legs, I tried it once (did deadlifts) about a couple months back. My legs literally turned to jello and I wasnt able to go running for an entire week. After that I never wanted to do legs again.

But now my friend convinced me again, but to start with something small. We did leg presses, calves, and thighs. And Ill tell you. I love to run, but after resting for a couple days, my legs felt like I could run for ages. I suddenly realized how important leg strength is. I was always petrified that if I worked on legs itd look ugly and bulgy, but just doing extended low sets and your strength goes up exponentially. I wish I was doing this from the beginning. I love to run and working on legs lets me do that even more now.

Anyways, I think Im gonna do a full leg workout every friday from now on. I like to run during the weekdays, and I always chill out and relax during the weekends so it works out pretty well. But what are some good leg work outs I could do to help me with running? Mostly for stamina. Should I be focusing on the calf region in particular?

Thanks in advance.


Nah man just do some low volume strength work. Only have to work up to maybe 2x5 deadlifts about 2x per week or so.

Chances are if you legs were jello you did waaaaay too many sets with the deadlift. If you are jello with low sets then just work up the weight gradually. You don't have to jump into it with heavy weights for you.

Then maybe 1 other exercise. If you don't want to squat with both legs then maybe something like bulgarian split squats
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
November 15 2012 00:54 GMT
#351
Okay I'm finally getting around to my update post. So I've been focusing more on BW stuff for about the past 7 weeks. However during this time life got really hectic and l neglected exercise for a while. So I've only done ~2 BW workouts per week rather than the 3 that I was planning.

Here's a basic outline of my progression. I've progressed in terms of time of holds, but not to more advanced exercises:

+ Show Spoiler [week 1] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~5 sec - Hands ~75cm from wall.
Frog stance 5 x ~1-3 sec - Struggling with balance.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Unable to do from floor. Just off chairs.
Weighted pushups 3 x 15 x 10kg

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~70cm from wall
Frog stance 5 x ~1-3 sec
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - On chairs. Very hard.
Forward rolls ~5 minutes

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12 sec - Hands ~70cm from wall
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec
Frog stance 5 x ~2-4 sec - Balance feeling more consistent
Pullups 3 x 7


+ Show Spoiler [week 2] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~2-3 sec - Off paralletes.
Frog stance 5 x ~1-4 sec

Tuesday at Gym
Dips 3 x 10
Pullups 7,7,8

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parralletes
Frog stance 5 x ~2-4 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 3] +

Tuesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off paralletes.
Frog stance 5 x ~3-4 sec
Weighted pushups 3 x 15 x ~15kg

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parralletes
Frog stance 5 x ~3-5 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 4] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~4 sec - On chairs. Main issue is maintaining scapular depression while in tuck.
Frog stance 5 x ~3-5 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 5] +

Tuesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~15sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~1 sec - On floor. Very hard. Need to lean back more.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~4-5 sec - Still unable to straighten arms.


+ Show Spoiler [week 6] +

Monday
Dips 3 x 8 - Focusing on keeping strict scapular depression throughout the movement.
Pullups 5 x 6
Weighted plank 3 x ~30 seconds x 25kg
Wall handstands 3 x ~15 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.

Thursday
Wall handstands 5 x ~15sec - Hands ~50cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~1 sec - On floor. Hard.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~4 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 7 - this week] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~20sec - Hands ~45cm from wall. Pushed myself hard with these.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~2 sec - On floor. Still trouble maintaining scapular depression while in tuck.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~5 sec - Off chairs
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~18sec - Hands ~45cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~6 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec - Still slight bend in arms but trying my best to straighten them.
Weighted Decline pushups 5 x 10 x 20kg
Plank 2 x ~60 sec
Side planks 3 x ~30 sec each side


So I've made some progress, albeit fairly slow. My biggest issue at this point is maintaining scapular depression/retraction while in a tuck. I think this is my main issue preventing me from doing the tuck L-sits from the floor. Also I'm missing some hip internal rotation which makes it hard to bring my knees together during the tuck.

The wall handstands are progressing well enough. Need to keep bringing my hands closer to the wall though.

Kind of stuck on frog stance. Balance has improved but yf I try the same thing with arms straight(momentarily forgot the name) I feel my legs pressing on my elbows which feels kind of dangerous. I've tried the tuck version but am having a lot of trouble maintaining strength while in compression. I might post a video about this tomorrow as I think it will help me explain the trouble I'm having better.

I've got basically no commitments over the next 3 weeks (then I'm off to Japan and Hong Kong for most of December) so I plan to be a lot more consistent with my workouts. Hopefully I can make some decent progress in this time and then progress more slowly through my holiday.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 15 2012 22:53 GMT
#352
On November 15 2012 09:54 Ludrik wrote:
Okay I'm finally getting around to my update post. So I've been focusing more on BW stuff for about the past 7 weeks. However during this time life got really hectic and l neglected exercise for a while. So I've only done ~2 BW workouts per week rather than the 3 that I was planning.

Here's a basic outline of my progression. I've progressed in terms of time of holds, but not to more advanced exercises:

+ Show Spoiler [week 1] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~5 sec - Hands ~75cm from wall.
Frog stance 5 x ~1-3 sec - Struggling with balance.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Unable to do from floor. Just off chairs.
Weighted pushups 3 x 15 x 10kg

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~70cm from wall
Frog stance 5 x ~1-3 sec
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - On chairs. Very hard.
Forward rolls ~5 minutes

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12 sec - Hands ~70cm from wall
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec
Frog stance 5 x ~2-4 sec - Balance feeling more consistent
Pullups 3 x 7


+ Show Spoiler [week 2] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~2-3 sec - Off paralletes.
Frog stance 5 x ~1-4 sec

Tuesday at Gym
Dips 3 x 10
Pullups 7,7,8

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parralletes
Frog stance 5 x ~2-4 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 3] +

Tuesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off paralletes.
Frog stance 5 x ~3-4 sec
Weighted pushups 3 x 15 x ~15kg

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parralletes
Frog stance 5 x ~3-5 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 4] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~4 sec - On chairs. Main issue is maintaining scapular depression while in tuck.
Frog stance 5 x ~3-5 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 5] +

Tuesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~15sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~1 sec - On floor. Very hard. Need to lean back more.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~4-5 sec - Still unable to straighten arms.


+ Show Spoiler [week 6] +

Monday
Dips 3 x 8 - Focusing on keeping strict scapular depression throughout the movement.
Pullups 5 x 6
Weighted plank 3 x ~30 seconds x 25kg
Wall handstands 3 x ~15 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.

Thursday
Wall handstands 5 x ~15sec - Hands ~50cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~1 sec - On floor. Hard.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~4 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 7 - this week] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~20sec - Hands ~45cm from wall. Pushed myself hard with these.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~2 sec - On floor. Still trouble maintaining scapular depression while in tuck.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~5 sec - Off chairs
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~18sec - Hands ~45cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~6 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec - Still slight bend in arms but trying my best to straighten them.
Weighted Decline pushups 5 x 10 x 20kg
Plank 2 x ~60 sec
Side planks 3 x ~30 sec each side


So I've made some progress, albeit fairly slow. My biggest issue at this point is maintaining scapular depression/retraction while in a tuck. I think this is my main issue preventing me from doing the tuck L-sits from the floor. Also I'm missing some hip internal rotation which makes it hard to bring my knees together during the tuck.

The wall handstands are progressing well enough. Need to keep bringing my hands closer to the wall though.

Kind of stuck on frog stance. Balance has improved but yf I try the same thing with arms straight(momentarily forgot the name) I feel my legs pressing on my elbows which feels kind of dangerous. I've tried the tuck version but am having a lot of trouble maintaining strength while in compression. I might post a video about this tomorrow as I think it will help me explain the trouble I'm having better.

I've got basically no commitments over the next 3 weeks (then I'm off to Japan and Hong Kong for most of December) so I plan to be a lot more consistent with my workouts. Hopefully I can make some decent progress in this time and then progress more slowly through my holiday.


3 things.

1. You're not making progress because you're been skipping routines.

The #1 thing about getting results in anything is being consistent with actually doing it.

2. You're not doing enough exercises. Handstands, L-sits, planks are all ok.... but they're generally supplementary skill and core type work.

You're not getting meat exercises that really develop your strength consistently like pullups, dips, planche, etc. You need to be doing these types of exercise 3x every week.

2 push and 2 pull at least every workout.

3. Not enough volume. You're not getting enough volume to progress with statics such as frog stand.

For example, see the tables:

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2012/05/prilepin-tables-for-bodyweight-strength-isometric-and-eccentric-exercises


Based on what you were doing I wouldn't expect to make much progress because you're actually not doing much and you're not doing it consistently...
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 15 2012 23:57 GMT
#353
Working on handstands and I'm feeling some discomfort/pressure in my lower back. On the spine probably two inches above iliac crest? Not sure if that helps without video or anything. Am messing something up form wise? I'm trying to keep my whole body tight.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
November 16 2012 00:36 GMT
#354
On November 16 2012 07:53 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 09:54 Ludrik wrote:
Okay I'm finally getting around to my update post. So I've been focusing more on BW stuff for about the past 7 weeks. However during this time life got really hectic and l neglected exercise for a while. So I've only done ~2 BW workouts per week rather than the 3 that I was planning.

Here's a basic outline of my progression. I've progressed in terms of time of holds, but not to more advanced exercises:

+ Show Spoiler [week 1] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~5 sec - Hands ~75cm from wall.
Frog stance 5 x ~1-3 sec - Struggling with balance.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Unable to do from floor. Just off chairs.
Weighted pushups 3 x 15 x 10kg

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~70cm from wall
Frog stance 5 x ~1-3 sec
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - On chairs. Very hard.
Forward rolls ~5 minutes

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12 sec - Hands ~70cm from wall
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec
Frog stance 5 x ~2-4 sec - Balance feeling more consistent
Pullups 3 x 7


+ Show Spoiler [week 2] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~2-3 sec - Off paralletes.
Frog stance 5 x ~1-4 sec

Tuesday at Gym
Dips 3 x 10
Pullups 7,7,8

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parralletes
Frog stance 5 x ~2-4 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 3] +

Tuesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off paralletes.
Frog stance 5 x ~3-4 sec
Weighted pushups 3 x 15 x ~15kg

Friday
Wall handstands 5 x ~10 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parralletes
Frog stance 5 x ~3-5 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 4] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~12 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~4 sec - On chairs. Main issue is maintaining scapular depression while in tuck.
Frog stance 5 x ~3-5 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 5] +

Tuesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~15sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~1 sec - On floor. Very hard. Need to lean back more.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~3 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~4-5 sec - Still unable to straighten arms.


+ Show Spoiler [week 6] +

Monday
Dips 3 x 8 - Focusing on keeping strict scapular depression throughout the movement.
Pullups 5 x 6
Weighted plank 3 x ~30 seconds x 25kg
Wall handstands 3 x ~15 sec - Hands ~60cm from wall.

Thursday
Wall handstands 5 x ~15sec - Hands ~50cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~1 sec - On floor. Hard.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~4 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec


+ Show Spoiler [week 7 - this week] +

Monday
Wall handstands 5 x ~20sec - Hands ~45cm from wall. Pushed myself hard with these.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~2 sec - On floor. Still trouble maintaining scapular depression while in tuck.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~5 sec - Off chairs
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec

Wednesday
Wall handstands 5 x ~18sec - Hands ~45cm from wall.
Tuck L-sit 5 x ~6 sec - Off parraletes
Frog stance 5 x ~6 sec - Still slight bend in arms but trying my best to straighten them.
Weighted Decline pushups 5 x 10 x 20kg
Plank 2 x ~60 sec
Side planks 3 x ~30 sec each side


So I've made some progress, albeit fairly slow. My biggest issue at this point is maintaining scapular depression/retraction while in a tuck. I think this is my main issue preventing me from doing the tuck L-sits from the floor. Also I'm missing some hip internal rotation which makes it hard to bring my knees together during the tuck.

The wall handstands are progressing well enough. Need to keep bringing my hands closer to the wall though.

Kind of stuck on frog stance. Balance has improved but yf I try the same thing with arms straight(momentarily forgot the name) I feel my legs pressing on my elbows which feels kind of dangerous. I've tried the tuck version but am having a lot of trouble maintaining strength while in compression. I might post a video about this tomorrow as I think it will help me explain the trouble I'm having better.

I've got basically no commitments over the next 3 weeks (then I'm off to Japan and Hong Kong for most of December) so I plan to be a lot more consistent with my workouts. Hopefully I can make some decent progress in this time and then progress more slowly through my holiday.


3 things.

1. You're not making progress because you're been skipping routines.

The #1 thing about getting results in anything is being consistent with actually doing it.

2. You're not doing enough exercises. Handstands, L-sits, planks are all ok.... but they're generally supplementary skill and core type work.

You're not getting meat exercises that really develop your strength consistently like pullups, dips, planche, etc. You need to be doing these types of exercise 3x every week.

2 push and 2 pull at least every workout.

3. Not enough volume. You're not getting enough volume to progress with statics such as frog stand.

For example, see the tables:

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2012/05/prilepin-tables-for-bodyweight-strength-isometric-and-eccentric-exercises


Based on what you were doing I wouldn't expect to make much progress because you're actually not doing much and you're not doing it consistently...

Thanks for the advice and I 100% agree with your assessment that I haven't really done much. I've been really inconsistent lately and exercise was the first thing to go when I got busy.

Time to refocus and get my shit together. Thanks again for the feedback.


Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 17 2012 02:43 GMT
#355
On November 16 2012 08:57 mordek wrote:
Working on handstands and I'm feeling some discomfort/pressure in my lower back. On the spine probably two inches above iliac crest? Not sure if that helps without video or anything. Am messing something up form wise? I'm trying to keep my whole body tight.


I'd need a vid

Usually people get low back pain if they allow their lower back to arch, especially if you're going with back to the wall instead of stomach to wall.
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 22 2012 22:54 GMT
#356
Hi everyone, Ive spent the last hour mulling over the fitness threads here on TL.net and I have learned some things, but I still have some questions and would appreciate some specific help. For starters, I'm a mess, I,m too fat for running and I don't really have access to a gym. I am at 110 kg and really need to get into shape. I have access to a pair of 9 pound dumbbells (are these enough for some weight loss, or do I need to go heavier ?) a lifting bench with 2x15 kg weights a heavy punching bag and a bike. Ive started to watch my diet ( no snacks, no soda, no candy ).

I was wondering if I can get any work done with the stuff I have, and how should I space out my exercise, for the last week (since I started) Ive been doing 7 different dumbbell workouts in 3x8 sets, taking around 30 minutes with some crunches in between each set, ( I was thinking of adding in deadlifts, standing biceps curls and flat bench presses, should I wait or start right away?) I do this every other day. Every day I did either a hour of brisk walking or half an hour of cycling. Should I space these differently ? I can use all the advice I can get, and I have all day to work out.

Thank you.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
November 23 2012 00:05 GMT
#357
On November 23 2012 07:54 besiger wrote:
Hi everyone, Ive spent the last hour mulling over the fitness threads here on TL.net and I have learned some things, but I still have some questions and would appreciate some specific help. For starters, I'm a mess, I,m too fat for running and I don't really have access to a gym. I am at 110 kg and really need to get into shape. I have access to a pair of 9 pound dumbbells (are these enough for some weight loss, or do I need to go heavier ?) a lifting bench with 2x15 kg weights a heavy punching bag and a bike. Ive started to watch my diet ( no snacks, no soda, no candy ).

I was wondering if I can get any work done with the stuff I have, and how should I space out my exercise, for the last week (since I started) Ive been doing 7 different dumbbell workouts in 3x8 sets, taking around 30 minutes with some crunches in between each set, ( I was thinking of adding in deadlifts, standing biceps curls and flat bench presses, should I wait or start right away?) I do this every other day. Every day I did either a hour of brisk walking or half an hour of cycling. Should I space these differently ? I can use all the advice I can get, and I have all day to work out.

Thank you.


I think the most important thing someone can do who is trying to lose weight is to really focus on your diet. It's good that you started cutting out some of the bad stuff but you really gotta go all out with it to see good results. It's good to cut out soda but how about cutting out all beverages besides water? Cut down on your daily caloric intake. Figure out how much you average and what you should be taking in. And keep those calories clean ones. Check into various diets like Paleo, ect.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 23 2012 01:53 GMT
#358
On November 23 2012 07:54 besiger wrote:
Hi everyone, Ive spent the last hour mulling over the fitness threads here on TL.net and I have learned some things, but I still have some questions and would appreciate some specific help. For starters, I'm a mess, I,m too fat for running and I don't really have access to a gym. I am at 110 kg and really need to get into shape. I have access to a pair of 9 pound dumbbells (are these enough for some weight loss, or do I need to go heavier ?) a lifting bench with 2x15 kg weights a heavy punching bag and a bike. Ive started to watch my diet ( no snacks, no soda, no candy ).

I was wondering if I can get any work done with the stuff I have, and how should I space out my exercise, for the last week (since I started) Ive been doing 7 different dumbbell workouts in 3x8 sets, taking around 30 minutes with some crunches in between each set, ( I was thinking of adding in deadlifts, standing biceps curls and flat bench presses, should I wait or start right away?) I do this every other day. Every day I did either a hour of brisk walking or half an hour of cycling. Should I space these differently ? I can use all the advice I can get, and I have all day to work out.

Thank you.


I'm not sure why you're putting this in the bodyweight fitness thread unless you want to do bodyweight fitness?

Weight loss is pretty much all diet... you gotta fix that to loes the weight.

For exercise, I would suggest doing anything that makes you motivated to stick with exercise. Weights, bodyweight, and/or running are all good.

It depends on what your goals are though. What are your goals with exercise? Strength? Muscle? etc.?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 02:35:12
November 23 2012 02:21 GMT
#359
On November 23 2012 10:53 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:54 besiger wrote:
Hi everyone, Ive spent the last hour mulling over the fitness threads here on TL.net and I have learned some things, but I still have some questions and would appreciate some specific help. For starters, I'm a mess, I,m too fat for running and I don't really have access to a gym. I am at 110 kg and really need to get into shape. I have access to a pair of 9 pound dumbbells (are these enough for some weight loss, or do I need to go heavier ?) a lifting bench with 2x15 kg weights a heavy punching bag and a bike. Ive started to watch my diet ( no snacks, no soda, no candy ).

I was wondering if I can get any work done with the stuff I have, and how should I space out my exercise, for the last week (since I started) Ive been doing 7 different dumbbell workouts in 3x8 sets, taking around 30 minutes with some crunches in between each set, ( I was thinking of adding in deadlifts, standing biceps curls and flat bench presses, should I wait or start right away?) I do this every other day. Every day I did either a hour of brisk walking or half an hour of cycling. Should I space these differently ? I can use all the advice I can get, and I have all day to work out.

Thank you.


I'm not sure why you're putting this in the bodyweight fitness thread unless you want to do bodyweight fitness?

Weight loss is pretty much all diet... you gotta fix that to loes the weight.

For exercise, I would suggest doing anything that makes you motivated to stick with exercise. Weights, bodyweight, and/or running are all good.

It depends on what your goals are though. What are your goals with exercise? Strength? Muscle? etc.?


Ah, this is just a thread for using your own body as weights, sorry about that, my bad, I had like 5 threads opened that I found in the fitness initiative 2012 thread and miss posted. My first and foremost goal is dropping weight, and after that strength/muscle. The bodyweight exercises seem really interesting though, I'm worried id bang up my joints or back being overweight as I am so thats out of the picture for now. I guess nutrition is the biggest part I need to do then, and I will keep cycling and using my dumbbells.

Just one more question and ill stop cluttering up your thread. Is it detrimental to use the dumbbells every day, or should I give it a days rest.
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
November 24 2012 04:21 GMT
#360
On November 23 2012 11:21 besiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 10:53 eshlow wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:54 besiger wrote:
Hi everyone, Ive spent the last hour mulling over the fitness threads here on TL.net and I have learned some things, but I still have some questions and would appreciate some specific help. For starters, I'm a mess, I,m too fat for running and I don't really have access to a gym. I am at 110 kg and really need to get into shape. I have access to a pair of 9 pound dumbbells (are these enough for some weight loss, or do I need to go heavier ?) a lifting bench with 2x15 kg weights a heavy punching bag and a bike. Ive started to watch my diet ( no snacks, no soda, no candy ).

I was wondering if I can get any work done with the stuff I have, and how should I space out my exercise, for the last week (since I started) Ive been doing 7 different dumbbell workouts in 3x8 sets, taking around 30 minutes with some crunches in between each set, ( I was thinking of adding in deadlifts, standing biceps curls and flat bench presses, should I wait or start right away?) I do this every other day. Every day I did either a hour of brisk walking or half an hour of cycling. Should I space these differently ? I can use all the advice I can get, and I have all day to work out.

Thank you.


I'm not sure why you're putting this in the bodyweight fitness thread unless you want to do bodyweight fitness?

Weight loss is pretty much all diet... you gotta fix that to loes the weight.

For exercise, I would suggest doing anything that makes you motivated to stick with exercise. Weights, bodyweight, and/or running are all good.

It depends on what your goals are though. What are your goals with exercise? Strength? Muscle? etc.?


Ah, this is just a thread for using your own body as weights, sorry about that, my bad, I had like 5 threads opened that I found in the fitness initiative 2012 thread and miss posted. My first and foremost goal is dropping weight, and after that strength/muscle. The bodyweight exercises seem really interesting though, I'm worried id bang up my joints or back being overweight as I am so thats out of the picture for now. I guess nutrition is the biggest part I need to do then, and I will keep cycling and using my dumbbells.

Just one more question and ill stop cluttering up your thread. Is it detrimental to use the dumbbells every day, or should I give it a days rest.

yep, bodyweight exercises are great for training strength, coordination, balance, etc, but you gotta be relatively in-shape first. if they;re done correctly, they should strengthen your joints, not damage them.

as for dumbbells, that depends on your workout, which depends on your goals. if your goal is to gain strength/muscle, your dumbbells are probably too light to be of any significant benefit. if you are training strength, you'll want to give your muscles a rest before working them again. if you're using dumbbells for cardio/endurance, you can probably train 6 days a week and be fine.

you can definitely use them to help a low-intensity cardio routine or high intensity interval training routine. HIIT is great for burning calories (note that most of your fat-loss will still be from your diet, but HIIT helps).
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