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On June 28 2012 03:12 EAGER-beaver wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 20:59 eshlow wrote:On June 27 2012 03:25 EAGER-beaver wrote:My feets hurt!!! I've been running for years and have always had the occasional odd ache and pain here and there and generally just ignored them and they always went away. I basically stopped running in september last year and started again in april, my first few runs went fine, then one day walking around at lunch time my foot just started hurting like crazy, stopped running for 2 weeks and limped around. Eventually it went away then I got the exact same pain in my other foot. I didn't feel like taking another 2 weeks off so I'm just toughening it out. The odd thing is my feet feel fine when I run, then one will ache like crazy from just walking. This is the spot where my foot aches: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/10/a-firm-foundation-focusing-on-the-feet/Scroll way down to the most frequent area of pain diagram, my pain is in the rarest %5 spot, wtf? Outside edge middle of my foot. I've never had an ache there before, why now? I know I had a long break, but still, never ever had something hurt this much before. My left foot feels perfect now, right foot is still tender, but getting better so I'm not worried about it, just wondering if anyone else encountered something funky like this before. http://basicallybarefoot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/DSC_4224.jpgThat where your pain is? Fibularis brevis (or if you prefer the old nomenclature of peroneus brevis) where the tendon inserts into the 5th metatarsal head on the lateral edge of the foot... common site of pain. I didn't really put that into the above article because it's not really a common spot of tendonitis for those with the shoes/sitting type issues. However, it can be a problem if you're a supinator or have high arches which hopefully you have because it would fit with how the pathology develops. The problem is I don't exactly know which part of the gait cycle is aggravating your foot so much. Have you recently changed shoes or worn out your old ones? Any other potential injuries before this or concurrently? I would suggest some massage to the muscles and the plantar arch of the foot and calf to help loosen up things to see if that helps, but otherwise I would tend to say go to a physical therapist as the apophysitis (pain at the tendon insertion) can be a bit different in pathology than actual tendonitis. Yep that's the spot. I've been running with the same trail shoes for the past 3 years, they're worn out but I used to run in casual shoes with no padding/arch support. No injuries of note, except for a sprained ankle 2 years ago but that has never bothered me even though I run primarily on uneven rocky/dirt paths. My foot hurts when it hits the ground lol I dunno much aboot gait cycles. There's no swelling and there's no pain when I rub it, it only hurts after a run, triggered by just walking around. It's not a serious injury, my left foot is back to it's old self and my right foot is rapidly recovering faster and faster, it's just odd that I'd get this for the first time in my life, in my left foot, then later in my right foot in the exact same place, exact same pain. I know my body, I'm familiar with the regular aches and pains I go through when I start training again after a long lay over, this foot thing is brand new and hit me so hard at first I had to stop running for almost 2 weeks, something I've never had to do before aside from the aforementioned ankle sprain I got giving my little cousin a piggy back ride. I was just curious what it was and if anyone had run into it before. Now I know that it's Fibularis brevis and a common injury. EDIT: Looking at that diagram it's so weird that something in my leg is causing my foot to hurt, it's black magic I tell you!
I mean if it's getting better and it's not limiting you then that's good.
I think that if it continues to persist you should get it checked out though.
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On June 27 2012 20:50 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 13:06 MeShiet wrote:Although I'm not sure if this pain is due to a specific incident I was hoping I could still get your opinion on it. + Show Spoiler +1. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rd4Ev.jpg) The pain is located quite high on the body of my sternum. About 4-5 fingers down from the bottom of the sternoclavicular joint 2. The pain flares up during any kind of transverse adduction movements regardless of weight. As for exercises, pushups will activate the pain and on some occasions when I push my chest out during the second pull of a clean or snatch (from above knee to hip) 3. It is definitely more of a sharp pain. Once I activate it, it comes very abruptly and dissipates in a second or two. There is no lingering pain, numbness, or tingling. 4. I would rate it at a 6 if I do squeeze hard doing shoulder transverse adduction movements, maybe a 2-4 when stretching or doing the Olympic lifts 5. This pain developed about 2 weeks ago. The pain has not improved when doing the aforementioned movements, but otherwise will not flare up if I avoid them. 6. I have been training through this pain since it developed. 7. The pain feels pretty superficial. The most accurate I can describe it as is that it feels like it starts 5 fingers down from the sternoclavicular joint, right down the middle. That is where the pain is most intense. It does not feel like it spreads to anything else. 8. For recovery, I have done a lot of pectoral stretches and rolling out. I have also done the same with my upper back. 9. At first, stretching out the pectoralis minor would help make the pain go away and keep it away even if i did the things that would normally make it hurt but that was very temporary and after a few days, even stretching out those muscles did not help. The pain is about as painful each time depending on what I'm doing. 10. I have very little muscle around that area but with all the stretching and rolling out I've done on it anyways, none of it feels tight or tender. There is definitely no swelling, no bruising, or any other sign of damage. 11. It feels better after a warm up, but I'm still conscious of it. There is no certain time of the day where it's worse or better but depending on how I sleep, some mornings can be rougher than others. 12. I have had no previous injury history anywhere near that area. 13. I'm actively trying to maintain as neutral of a posture as possible. I try to avoid excessive pelvic tilt as well as hyperextension of my spine. This goes for both when i'm on my feet or sitting down. 14. The most I do for my chest is pull-ups. Oddly enough, that exercise does not activate the pain. My routine involves mainly Olympic lifting and I do not play any other sport. 15. Pressing on that area does not produce any tenderness or pain. Expanding my lungs and thus pushing my rib cage out from deep breathing does not produce any pain. Thank you so much for taking the time to read this and try to help. + Show Spoiler +So you can give yourself costcondritis/tietze syndrome/etc. by aggravating your costal cartilages by doing this.
Since the origin of the pecs is on the sternum and partially on the costal cartilages, if you haven't used your chest in resistance trainig much before the connective tissues aren't as strong. Thus, when you do a deep movement where you really stretch out the pecs/chest like dips, the origin of the muscle on the costal cartilages can start to pull them away from the costal facets on the sternum
Obviously, this creates inflammation and in general can lead to some popping and hurting.
Best thing you can do is REST AND LET IT HEAL. Take your anti-inflammatories to help decrease inflammation and allow healign to occur. Fish oil is always good. Massage to the area works as well.
Ice if it helps. Otherwise, once it starts feeling better use heat to stimulate more blood flow to encourage faster healing from the body since the area does not get a lot of blood flow as it is bone/cartilage in that area.
Keep the muscles working through full but non-weight bearing and non-painful range of motion so that the muscles don't tighten up on you, and the muscle movement will also help stimulate blood flow to the area as well.
Usually, if you didn't chronically aggravate you should be able to get back to exercising within a week.
Just avoid the exercise that aggravates it for a while, and focus on other exercises that are less intense of the chest... and then work your way back into these SLOWLY so you don't reaggravate your condition.
Also, work on your posture!! Poor posture can put the tissues in a poor position and aggravate it
Eek, thanks for letting me know. I've kind of dialed down on the stretching of that area because it hurt to do so and it's definitely no longer causing me pain that's as severe as it used to be. I'll keep my eye on it and slowly work in something to strengthen the area. As always, I appreciate what you're doing here and thank you for your help.
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If i had been bench pressing with my arms flared out, is there a good chance that i have damaged my shoulders?
Filling out form now...
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H7ioM.jpg)
the first major thing is b/w my bicep and my shoulder (i guess)
The second is major thing is below my collarbone, towards my shoulder
2. What exercises hurt? I honestly don't know, but
Trying to get a correct arm/hand position in squat makes this feel pain/ very uncomfortable
Picking up my 20-25lb backpack hurts it too
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
The pain is usually like a very exaggerated stretching feeling (like my shoulder will become detached) during the mentioned activities, although once, it was a very sharp pain (when i had my backpack and tried to open a door)
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2 or 3 when it happens,
0 anytime else
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?Chronic, i have no idea of the date, but over half a year ago (probably)
No improvement.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? Depends on if it started when i started lifting or nearer to when i stopped, but i haven't lifted in over 6 months. I did however still carry my backpack around with me for 5 of those 6 months.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
I don't know how to answer this one. Feels like just below the skin.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Not lifting?
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
help? not doing anything that requires shoulders. Worse? Anything that requires shoulders (even just lifting a chair makes it worse), not constant, increase with activity that requries shoulders.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? Seems normal, no swelling.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
a little bit weak after anything that requires shoulders. Beginning fine, end fine.
12. Any previous injury history?
Not in this area
13. How's your posture?
Fine
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
Nothing; no
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
When i say flared out, i mean that the line formed by connecting my elbow to my wrist points to the ground below my elbow.
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On July 03 2012 10:25 Release wrote:If i had been bench pressing with my arms flared out, is there a good chance that i have damaged my shoulders? Filling out form now... the first major thing is b/w my bicep and my shoulder (i guess) The second is major thing is below my collarbone, towards my shoulder 2. What exercises hurt? I honestly don't know, but Trying to get a correct arm/hand position in squat makes this feel pain/ very uncomfortable Picking up my 20-25lb backpack hurts it too + Show Spoiler +3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
The pain is usually like a very exaggerated stretching feeling (like my shoulder will become detached) during the mentioned activities, although once, it was a very sharp pain (when i had my backpack and tried to open a door)
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2 or 3 when it happens,
0 anytime else
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?Chronic, i have no idea of the date, but over half a year ago (probably)
No improvement.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? Depends on if it started when i started lifting or nearer to when i stopped, but i haven't lifted in over 6 months. I did however still carry my backpack around with me for 5 of those 6 months.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
I don't know how to answer this one. Feels like just below the skin.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Not lifting?
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
help? not doing anything that requires shoulders. Worse? Anything that requires shoulders (even just lifting a chair makes it worse), not constant, increase with activity that requries shoulders.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? Seems normal, no swelling.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
a little bit weak after anything that requires shoulders. Beginning fine, end fine.
12. Any previous injury history?
Not in this area
13. How's your posture?
Fine
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
Nothing; no
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
When i say flared out, i mean that the line formed by connecting my elbow to my wrist points to the ground below my elbow.
Hmmm. Well, based on what you have said it sounds like there's some short head of the biceps involvement and possibly pec minor as well. Heck, perhaps even coracobrachialis. What all 3 of these muscles have in common is that they connect to the coracoid process of the scapula... and I can't tell whether it's tendonitis, or something like apophysitis, or what.
What I would suggest is to use your hands and direct some soft tissue work to your biceps/coraco/pec minor to try to loosen up those tissues to see if that helps out with your issue. SOmetimes when you get an injury the tissues tighten up and cramp and can make it worse. If that helps then it's probably likely the tendonitis or apophysitis or something like that.
If not, I would suggest getting it checked out by a physical therapist or orthopedic doc so you can get an official diagnosis on where you can actually go with rehab type stuff.
And yes, avoid flared elbow bench... bad stuff.
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Has any aspiring doctor or sports medicine guru ever heard about piriformis syndrome? I strongly believe I have this syndrome as I feel a deep dagger like pain exclusively in my right buttocks when I play basketball or run hard.
I am a bit reckless so I would play ball whenever I felt like the pain was manageable...this is the third time the inflammation has come back and this time I am going to rest until I am 100% sure it is gone for good.
I was just wondering if any of you guys ever experience sciatic nerve pain and how long it took to get well and what you did so it never came back.
Thank you! I would appreciate any help!
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yeah i have heard of it, it's generally pretty rare because only a fraction of the population have a sciatic nerve that passes through the piriformis muscle itself (instead of under it). mostly masked as a low back injury (the distribution of symptoms tends to match the L5/S1 nerve root.
I'm guessing you have wiki'd it and done some kind of reading given you actually used the term.
The key is to differentiate between a compression of the sciatic nerve directly at your buttock, or at the spinal cord level - Do you have any history of back pain or back injury? Can you recreate the symptoms by pushing directly over the piriformis (ie sitting on a wallet in your back pocket). Any pain at night? What makes it better/worse? Do you sit for long periods?
It's also possible that you could just have a muscle tear that you haven't let heal.
Also the OP has a pretty good subjective questionnaire you could fill out.
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On July 08 2012 14:34 emjaytron wrote:
yeah i have heard of it, it's generally pretty rare because only a fraction of the population have a sciatic nerve that passes through the piriformis muscle itself (instead of under it). mostly masked as a low back injury (the distribution of symptoms tends to match the L5/S1 nerve root.
I'm guessing you have wiki'd it and done some kind of reading given you actually used the term.
The key is to differentiate between a compression of the sciatic nerve directly at your buttock, or at the spinal cord level - Do you have any history of back pain or back injury? Can you recreate the symptoms by pushing directly over the piriformis (ie sitting on a wallet in your back pocket). Any pain at night? What makes it better/worse? Do you sit for long periods?
It's also possible that you could just have a muscle tear that you haven't let heal.
Also the OP has a pretty good subjective questionnaire you could fill out.
Hmmm...I did more reading after seeing your questions, and it seems like it could be to a back injury. I do fall quite a lot in basketball on my butt and back. And, I do have back pain that is not what I usually feel. Herniated disk?
1. Yes, I feel back pain.
2. If I sit on my right buttocks, I do not feel pain. I feel pain in my right buttocks only when I run on my right leg (high impact exercise).
3. No pain at night.
4. Not running makes it better. Running makes it worse. Nothing else really short of stabbing myself in my booty.
5. I do sit for long periods as I am at a conference where I must listen to many hours of seminars. However, I feel zero pain from sitting down.
Thank you Doc!
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On July 08 2012 14:05 Golgotha wrote:
Has any aspiring doctor or sports medicine guru ever heard about piriformis syndrome? I strongly believe I have this syndrome as I feel a deep dagger like pain exclusively in my right buttocks when I play basketball or run hard.
I am a bit reckless so I would play ball whenever I felt like the pain was manageable...this is the third time the inflammation has come back and this time I am going to rest until I am 100% sure it is gone for good.
I was just wondering if any of you guys ever experience sciatic nerve pain and how long it took to get well and what you did so it never came back.
Thank you! I would appreciate any help!
I would very strongly suggesting seeing a physical therapist.
"Piriformis / buttocks" pain can be from any number of reasons like Emjay said namely:
1. Spinal cord issue
2. Disc herniation
3. SI joint issue
4. Muscle strain/tear
5. Actual piriformis issue
6. Head the femur issue
etc.
So there's many possibly things it could be and getting assessed by a good therapist would be a good idea if you want to get it straightened out.
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1. The extensor Digitorum becomes tense after gaming and hurts.
during chinups the black circled part hurts.
http://postimage.org/image/k7uwf12vn
2. What exercises hurt? chinups (not so much for pullups) and gaming. General computer use doesnt hurt it that much though and also twisting my forearm/wrist hurts it.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
feels like a strain and feels like the muscle is tensed after gaming. During chinups the pain turns quite sharp.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
just doing normal day activities 3-4ish but during chinups goes up to like 7-8
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
The pain has been here for a few weeks. hasnt improved nor gotten worse :/
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
no. i stopped because of it.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
No it doesnt seem deep. hurts around the muscles and joints.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
wrist stretches against a wall.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
nothing seems to help to be honest. maybe the stretches but not that much. Gaming hurts it alot and chinups
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling. exterior appearance is fine.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
hurts less during the morning and gets worse during the day
12. Any previous injury history?
no
13. How's your posture? decent- irrelevent to the injury.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
used to do bodyweight workouts but stopped.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
hmmmm i think i injured it during one of bar dips workouts but i tried to do some to check if it hurts and it doesnt.
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On July 09 2012 03:21 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 14:34 emjaytron wrote:
yeah i have heard of it, it's generally pretty rare because only a fraction of the population have a sciatic nerve that passes through the piriformis muscle itself (instead of under it). mostly masked as a low back injury (the distribution of symptoms tends to match the L5/S1 nerve root.
I'm guessing you have wiki'd it and done some kind of reading given you actually used the term.
The key is to differentiate between a compression of the sciatic nerve directly at your buttock, or at the spinal cord level - Do you have any history of back pain or back injury? Can you recreate the symptoms by pushing directly over the piriformis (ie sitting on a wallet in your back pocket). Any pain at night? What makes it better/worse? Do you sit for long periods?
It's also possible that you could just have a muscle tear that you haven't let heal.
Also the OP has a pretty good subjective questionnaire you could fill out. Hmmm...I did more reading after seeing your questions, and it seems like it could be to a back injury. I do fall quite a lot in basketball on my butt and back. And, I do have back pain that is not what I usually feel. Herniated disk? 1. Yes, I feel back pain. 2. If I sit on my right buttocks, I do not feel pain. I feel pain in my right buttocks only when I run on my right leg (high impact exercise). 3. No pain at night. 4. Not running makes it better. Running makes it worse. Nothing else really short of stabbing myself in my booty. 5. I do sit for long periods as I am at a conference where I must listen to many hours of seminars. However, I feel zero pain from sitting down. Thank you Doc!
I'm no doctor haha. I'm in my final year of a physiotherapy masters. So take things with a grain of salt and you'll get better results from seeing a practicing therapist - physio or possibly osteopath depends what there is where you live.
I can tell you a few things from those answers though. It doesn't sound like a herniated disc - sitting for long periods would make this worse in most cases as the lower spine flexes when you are seated, and the most common position of a disc bulge is out the back and to one side. Bending the spine would tend to poke it out even further, putting pressure on the nerve root. Plus, if a nerve root was compressed the common presentation is for the pain to radiate down the leg.
However some people have big disc bulges and no symptoms, while others are symptomatic from innocuous looking stuff. No way to tell by just asking you. Doesn't really seem like piriformis syndrome either. In your case I'm kinda leaning towards it being a sacro-iliac joint issue? (just thinking that cos of the high impact stuff and the area affected). No way to know though, so go see someone about it if you can.
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Emjay,
My first thought based on the symptoms he stated in 1-5 was SI joint issue.
Hence, why I immediately suggested seeing a PT (though I didn't explain my reasoning).
But yeah, definitely something you want checked out by professional if possible.
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On July 09 2012 13:01 jjhchsc2 wrote:1. The extensor Digitorum becomes tense after gaming and hurts. during chinups the black circled part hurts. http://postimage.org/image/k7uwf12vn2. What exercises hurt? chinups (not so much for pullups) and gaming. General computer use doesnt hurt it that much though and also twisting my forearm/wrist hurts it. + Show Spoiler +3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
feels like a strain and feels like the muscle is tensed after gaming. During chinups the pain turns quite sharp.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
just doing normal day activities 3-4ish but during chinups goes up to like 7-8
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
The pain has been here for a few weeks. hasnt improved nor gotten worse :/
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
no. i stopped because of it.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
No it doesnt seem deep. hurts around the muscles and joints.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
wrist stretches against a wall.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
nothing seems to help to be honest. maybe the stretches but not that much. Gaming hurts it alot and chinups
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling. exterior appearance is fine.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
hurts less during the morning and gets worse during the day
12. Any previous injury history?
no
13. How's your posture? decent- irrelevent to the injury.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
used to do bodyweight workouts but stopped.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
hmmmm i think i injured it during one of bar dips workouts but i tried to do some to check if it hurts and it doesnt.
Actually, posture is almost never irrelevant, especially with arm issues which can be aggravated while seated very easily.
In any case, let's try to trouble shoot this with some strengthening and soft tissue work.
Add in some wrist distraction/traction and work up to some grade 3-4 which is to say you want to do as much where it feels like the wrist is getting about 50% or so below your pain threshold. So it's not really going to be pulling super hard.
http://physiohub.com/activities/86
Grab a light dumbell and do some radial deviation and ulnar deviation as well as some higher rep wrist curls both extension and flexion. couple sets of 20-30 reps
Use your opposite hand and massage your flexors and extensors, as well as your biceps.and especially triceps around the lateral epicondyle to hopefully loosen up the radial nerve a bit.
Do some of the nerve gliding here (specfically median, ulnar, and radial... but mostly radial) to see if these help out as well:
http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm
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On July 10 2012 11:23 eshlow wrote:
Emjay,
My first thought based on the symptoms he stated in 1-5 was SI joint issue.
Hence, why I immediately suggested seeing a PT (though I didn't explain my reasoning).
But yeah, definitely something you want checked out by professional if possible.
Nice to agree with someone 
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I severely sprained/hyperextended my hand last night. Laying out for a frisbee, left hand planted on ground (no idea why >.<) while I continued forward and down. Since then I've gained increase range of motion and the pain is not constant. Bruising is visible at my metacarpophalangeal joint (been brushing up on my anatomy for work ^^) and hand is still slightly swollen all around. My question is, do I just keep up the RICE treatement or is there anything else I can be doing or looking out for?
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Intermittent ice will help up to 48-72 hours depending on severity. Avoid heat and alcohol. Make sure you maintain some gentle active range of movement straight away after the early bleeding/inflammatory phase. Otherwise sounds like you're doing a good job.
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On July 11 2012 06:44 emjaytron wrote:
Intermittent ice will help up to 48-72 hours depending on severity. Avoid heat and alcohol. Make sure you maintain some gentle active range of movement straight away after the early bleeding/inflammatory phase. Otherwise sounds like you're doing a good job.
Ok, good. Thanks for the response!
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 10 2012 11:30 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 13:01 jjhchsc2 wrote:1. The extensor Digitorum becomes tense after gaming and hurts. during chinups the black circled part hurts. http://postimage.org/image/k7uwf12vn2. What exercises hurt? chinups (not so much for pullups) and gaming. General computer use doesnt hurt it that much though and also twisting my forearm/wrist hurts it. + Show Spoiler +3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
feels like a strain and feels like the muscle is tensed after gaming. During chinups the pain turns quite sharp.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
just doing normal day activities 3-4ish but during chinups goes up to like 7-8
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
The pain has been here for a few weeks. hasnt improved nor gotten worse :/
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
no. i stopped because of it.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
No it doesnt seem deep. hurts around the muscles and joints.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
wrist stretches against a wall.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
nothing seems to help to be honest. maybe the stretches but not that much. Gaming hurts it alot and chinups
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling. exterior appearance is fine.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
hurts less during the morning and gets worse during the day
12. Any previous injury history?
no
13. How's your posture? decent- irrelevent to the injury.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
used to do bodyweight workouts but stopped.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
hmmmm i think i injured it during one of bar dips workouts but i tried to do some to check if it hurts and it doesnt. Actually, posture is almost never irrelevant, especially with arm issues which can be aggravated while seated very easily. In any case, let's try to trouble shoot this with some strengthening and soft tissue work. Add in some wrist distraction/traction and work up to some grade 3-4 which is to say you want to do as much where it feels like the wrist is getting about 50% or so below your pain threshold. So it's not really going to be pulling super hard. http://physiohub.com/activities/86Grab a light dumbell and do some radial deviation and ulnar deviation as well as some higher rep wrist curls both extension and flexion. couple sets of 20-30 reps Use your opposite hand and massage your flexors and extensors, as well as your biceps.and especially triceps around the lateral epicondyle to hopefully loosen up the radial nerve a bit. Do some of the nerve gliding here (specfically median, ulnar, and radial... but mostly radial) to see if these help out as well: http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm
THANK YOU! i will definietly try the stretches but i dont think the pain comes from lack muscular endurance. anyway i will just use like a 500ml bottle or something :D
I tried the never gliding but i dont know what sort of tension i am supposed to feel? like i feel like a tissue being stretched but thats it i think.
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South Africa4316 Posts
Quick question that I'm hoping someone can answer. Yesterday about 10 minutes after gym, I did something funny with my neck and suddenly got a sharp pain if I tried bending or turning my neck to the left. It wasn't too bad, just a bit sore. A few hours later, however, and I couldn't move my neck at all anymore. Added to that, any pressure I put on my left arm would cause my neck to go into spasm which hurt like fucking hell. I took two muscle relaxants and two pain pills but I'm not sure how much they helped. When I woke up this morning it felt much better, almost exactly the same way as it did right after gym, but now, a few hours later, I'm back to not being able to move my neck.
Do you guys have any idea what I did and any suggestion on how to fix it?
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Canada6683 Posts
On July 12 2012 19:57 Daigomi wrote:
Quick question that I'm hoping someone can answer. Yesterday about 10 minutes after gym, I did something funny with my neck and suddenly got a sharp pain if I tried bending or turning my neck to the left. It wasn't too bad, just a bit sore. A few hours later, however, and I couldn't move my neck at all anymore. Added to that, any pressure I put on my left arm would cause my neck to go into spasm which hurt like fucking hell. I took two muscle relaxants and two pain pills but I'm not sure how much they helped. When I woke up this morning it felt much better, almost exactly the same way as it did right after gym, but now, a few hours later, I'm back to not being able to move my neck.
Do you guys have any idea what I did and any suggestion on how to fix it?
It means your squat & DL is too high compared to mine. Wait for me 
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On July 11 2012 21:32 jjhchsc2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 10 2012 11:30 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 13:01 jjhchsc2 wrote:1. The extensor Digitorum becomes tense after gaming and hurts. during chinups the black circled part hurts. http://postimage.org/image/k7uwf12vn2. What exercises hurt? chinups (not so much for pullups) and gaming. General computer use doesnt hurt it that much though and also twisting my forearm/wrist hurts it. + Show Spoiler +3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
feels like a strain and feels like the muscle is tensed after gaming. During chinups the pain turns quite sharp.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
just doing normal day activities 3-4ish but during chinups goes up to like 7-8
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
The pain has been here for a few weeks. hasnt improved nor gotten worse :/
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
no. i stopped because of it.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
No it doesnt seem deep. hurts around the muscles and joints.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
wrist stretches against a wall.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
nothing seems to help to be honest. maybe the stretches but not that much. Gaming hurts it alot and chinups
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling. exterior appearance is fine.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
hurts less during the morning and gets worse during the day
12. Any previous injury history?
no
13. How's your posture? decent- irrelevent to the injury.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
used to do bodyweight workouts but stopped.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
hmmmm i think i injured it during one of bar dips workouts but i tried to do some to check if it hurts and it doesnt. Actually, posture is almost never irrelevant, especially with arm issues which can be aggravated while seated very easily. In any case, let's try to trouble shoot this with some strengthening and soft tissue work. Add in some wrist distraction/traction and work up to some grade 3-4 which is to say you want to do as much where it feels like the wrist is getting about 50% or so below your pain threshold. So it's not really going to be pulling super hard. http://physiohub.com/activities/86Grab a light dumbell and do some radial deviation and ulnar deviation as well as some higher rep wrist curls both extension and flexion. couple sets of 20-30 reps Use your opposite hand and massage your flexors and extensors, as well as your biceps.and especially triceps around the lateral epicondyle to hopefully loosen up the radial nerve a bit. Do some of the nerve gliding here (specfically median, ulnar, and radial... but mostly radial) to see if these help out as well: http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm THANK YOU! i will definietly try the stretches but i dont think the pain comes from lack muscular endurance. anyway i will just use like a 500ml bottle or something :D I tried the never gliding but i dont know what sort of tension i am supposed to feel? like i feel like a tissue being stretched but thats it i think.
It's not really the lack of muscular endurance... it's potentially from imbalances which is why I was generally trying to target everything around the wrist. If you know one side, typically the extensors, is weaker than the other side I would suggest doing solely that and see if it helps significantly.
Nerve gliding shouldn't feel like it's doing much, but hte benefits are gradual especially if the nerves are entrapped and have poor blood supply. It will help to loosen them up in the sheaths
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