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On June 15 2012 03:47 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 22:36 shawty wrote:PictureThe pain is just to the left of the centre of the forearm on my left arm. 2. If I clench my fist above my head and pull my arm down, as though I were to be doing a pullup, after this I have numbness but slight tenderness just above the pointed part of my elbow. 3. Stabbing pain, and then tingling for a bit after doing the motion. 4. Would honestly rate it about an 8, if it were to be a constant pain I wouldn't be here typing this! + Show Spoiler +5. I literally just noticed the pain, have never experienced it whilst doing exercises that use that motion, so it could only have started very recently, or exercise doesn't cause the pain 6. As I said above, never noticed it before, so potentially been training through the pain for months, or maybe never. 7. I can feel the tendon below the skin very clearly, and it feels that is what is causing the pain. 8. N/A 9. Don't notice it most of the time, only that motion that makes it hurt. 10. Just that tendon on the forearm that is tender, as well as that part of my elbow. 11. Never noticed it after exercise. 12. Tennis elbow in that arm, had it for almost a year, but trained through it. It has been gone for about 3 months now with no pain whatsoever. 13. I imagine not fantastic. 14. I do a lot of rock climbing, training 3-4 times a week. Recently started doing some shoulder stability exercises. 15. My shoulder on the same side as the pain does not move smoothly when i rotate it in a circular shrugging motion. I saw a physio a year ago about this and they said it should go away with time, but I havn't noticed any change in this time. Any help would be appreciated. I have exams starting this weekend so I won't have time to see anyone about it for a bit, so I thought I would just see if anyone else has experienced anything similar. Thanks  This area? http://www.3pointproducts.com/Portals/30688/images//GolfersElbowlabel(1).jpgIf so, this article will guide you throw correcting it: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/
That is the area that feels tender yes. Thanks for the article. Would that explain the stabbing pain when i clench my fist above my head and pull down though? The stabbing pain in in the main area of my forearm when i have my palm facing upwards
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On June 15 2012 04:28 shawty wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:47 eshlow wrote:On June 14 2012 22:36 shawty wrote:PictureThe pain is just to the left of the centre of the forearm on my left arm. 2. If I clench my fist above my head and pull my arm down, as though I were to be doing a pullup, after this I have numbness but slight tenderness just above the pointed part of my elbow. 3. Stabbing pain, and then tingling for a bit after doing the motion. 4. Would honestly rate it about an 8, if it were to be a constant pain I wouldn't be here typing this! + Show Spoiler +5. I literally just noticed the pain, have never experienced it whilst doing exercises that use that motion, so it could only have started very recently, or exercise doesn't cause the pain 6. As I said above, never noticed it before, so potentially been training through the pain for months, or maybe never. 7. I can feel the tendon below the skin very clearly, and it feels that is what is causing the pain. 8. N/A 9. Don't notice it most of the time, only that motion that makes it hurt. 10. Just that tendon on the forearm that is tender, as well as that part of my elbow. 11. Never noticed it after exercise. 12. Tennis elbow in that arm, had it for almost a year, but trained through it. It has been gone for about 3 months now with no pain whatsoever. 13. I imagine not fantastic. 14. I do a lot of rock climbing, training 3-4 times a week. Recently started doing some shoulder stability exercises. 15. My shoulder on the same side as the pain does not move smoothly when i rotate it in a circular shrugging motion. I saw a physio a year ago about this and they said it should go away with time, but I havn't noticed any change in this time. Any help would be appreciated. I have exams starting this weekend so I won't have time to see anyone about it for a bit, so I thought I would just see if anyone else has experienced anything similar. Thanks This area? http://www.3pointproducts.com/Portals/30688/images//GolfersElbowlabel(1).jpgIf so, this article will guide you throw correcting it: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/ That is the area that feels tender yes. Thanks for the article. Would that explain the stabbing pain when i clench my fist above my head and pull down though? The stabbing pain in in the main area of my forearm when i have my palm facing upwards
Sounds like it.
Can you mark a pic you found on google exactly where?
Might be pronator teres... which would be associated with the common flexor tendon there.
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Fuckk was way too over eager doing weighted sit ups. Kept pushing far after my abs gave out and apparently compensated with my neck so soreee
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Is there any way to avoid having cramps? i mean after playing a whole day and in the afternoon you got so much lactate(is it lactate? LOL) build up in your muscles that you get cramps. how do you actually avoid that? is rehydrating the only way?
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On June 17 2012 19:12 icystorage wrote:
Is there any way to avoid having cramps? i mean after playing a whole day and in the afternoon you got so much lactate(is it lactate? LOL) build up in your muscles that you get cramps. how do you actually avoid that? is rehydrating the only way?
Magnesium, electrolytes in general, glucose after a hard workout,
Stretching can help alleviate them for the most part with deep breathing
ALso, lactic acid does not cause cramps.
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/the-truth-about-lactic-acid/
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how about 'curing' it? i saw other people ice their calves after a cramp or spraying something on it which is very cold. is that safe?
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On June 18 2012 08:09 icystorage wrote:
how about 'curing' it? i saw other people ice their calves after a cramp or spraying something on it which is very cold. is that safe?
As your fitness improves that will "cure" it if it's related to fatigue.
Icing would not cure anything, just mitigate some of the pain.
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ahh okay okay thank you for patiently answering me. it clears up a lot
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One of my friends who used to work as a physiotherapist has diagnosed me with a stuck rib. This explains why my back has been sore on one side for almost two years now, the symptoms all fit, now he just needs to break fix it
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my quadriceps tendon has been aching for like 6 weeks now. i've taken the last 2 weeks off squatting but i've only seen minor improvement. the pain is mostly in the morning and after a long period of inactivity. that sounds like what is described as tendinosis. i've never had previous inflammation of the tendon before this, so i have no idea how i suddenly had an onset of chronic tendinitis.
the article on eatmoveimprove suggests eccentric movements for tendinosis, so that means i should do light reps of things like hamstring curls, right? i'm a little confused for what exercises i should do to rehab the tendon.
finally, would doing movements like the power clean be detrimental towards rehab? theres a little bit of knee use in the movement.
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On June 24 2012 05:36 shawster wrote:
my quadriceps tendon has been aching for like 6 weeks now. i've taken the last 2 weeks off squatting but i've only seen minor improvement. the pain is mostly in the morning and after a long period of inactivity. that sounds like what is described as tendinosis. i've never had previous inflammation of the tendon before this, so i have no idea how i suddenly had an onset of chronic tendinitis.
the article on eatmoveimprove suggests eccentric movements for tendinosis, so that means i should do light reps of things like hamstring curls, right? i'm a little confused for what exercises i should do to rehab the tendon.
finally, would doing movements like the power clean be detrimental towards rehab? theres a little bit of knee use in the movement.
No, you want the negative portion of the squat or leg extension.... fairly high reps without pain if possible 2-3 sets of 30-50 reps if not a bit more.
Stretch out your quads and foam roll them too
Any other leg movement is fine if you don't have pain so power cleans are fine if no pain
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On June 24 2012 06:37 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 05:36 shawster wrote:
my quadriceps tendon has been aching for like 6 weeks now. i've taken the last 2 weeks off squatting but i've only seen minor improvement. the pain is mostly in the morning and after a long period of inactivity. that sounds like what is described as tendinosis. i've never had previous inflammation of the tendon before this, so i have no idea how i suddenly had an onset of chronic tendinitis.
the article on eatmoveimprove suggests eccentric movements for tendinosis, so that means i should do light reps of things like hamstring curls, right? i'm a little confused for what exercises i should do to rehab the tendon.
finally, would doing movements like the power clean be detrimental towards rehab? theres a little bit of knee use in the movement. No, you want the negative portion of the squat or leg extension.... fairly high reps without pain if possible 2-3 sets of 30-50 reps if not a bit more. Stretch out your quads and foam roll them too Any other leg movement is fine if you don't have pain so power cleans are fine if no pain
should use weighted eccentric exercises or just bodyweight? i read your article and i used some ziploc bags filled with hot water for heating and i'm going to do a bunch of negative squats.
really appreciate your help btw
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On June 24 2012 13:25 shawster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 06:37 eshlow wrote:On June 24 2012 05:36 shawster wrote:
my quadriceps tendon has been aching for like 6 weeks now. i've taken the last 2 weeks off squatting but i've only seen minor improvement. the pain is mostly in the morning and after a long period of inactivity. that sounds like what is described as tendinosis. i've never had previous inflammation of the tendon before this, so i have no idea how i suddenly had an onset of chronic tendinitis.
the article on eatmoveimprove suggests eccentric movements for tendinosis, so that means i should do light reps of things like hamstring curls, right? i'm a little confused for what exercises i should do to rehab the tendon.
finally, would doing movements like the power clean be detrimental towards rehab? theres a little bit of knee use in the movement. No, you want the negative portion of the squat or leg extension.... fairly high reps without pain if possible 2-3 sets of 30-50 reps if not a bit more. Stretch out your quads and foam roll them too Any other leg movement is fine if you don't have pain so power cleans are fine if no pain should use weighted eccentric exercises or just bodyweight? i read your article and i used some ziploc bags filled with hot water for heating and i'm going to do a bunch of negative squats. really appreciate your help btw
Should be non-painful as possible and you can start with leg eccentrics if you want if it's very bad. If you can do squat eccentrics that works too.
Make sure you have good squat form though.....
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Although I'm not sure if this pain is due to a specific incident I was hoping I could still get your opinion on it.
+ Show Spoiler +1. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rd4Ev.jpg) The pain is located quite high on the body of my sternum. About 4-5 fingers down from the bottom of the sternoclavicular joint 2. The pain flares up during any kind of transverse adduction movements regardless of weight. As for exercises, pushups will activate the pain and on some occasions when I push my chest out during the second pull of a clean or snatch (from above knee to hip) 3. It is definitely more of a sharp pain. Once I activate it, it comes very abruptly and dissipates in a second or two. There is no lingering pain, numbness, or tingling. 4. I would rate it at a 6 if I do squeeze hard doing shoulder transverse adduction movements, maybe a 2-4 when stretching or doing the Olympic lifts 5. This pain developed about 2 weeks ago. The pain has not improved when doing the aforementioned movements, but otherwise will not flare up if I avoid them. 6. I have been training through this pain since it developed. 7. The pain feels pretty superficial. The most accurate I can describe it as is that it feels like it starts 5 fingers down from the sternoclavicular joint, right down the middle. That is where the pain is most intense. It does not feel like it spreads to anything else. 8. For recovery, I have done a lot of pectoral stretches and rolling out. I have also done the same with my upper back. 9. At first, stretching out the pectoralis minor would help make the pain go away and keep it away even if i did the things that would normally make it hurt but that was very temporary and after a few days, even stretching out those muscles did not help. The pain is about as painful each time depending on what I'm doing. 10. I have very little muscle around that area but with all the stretching and rolling out I've done on it anyways, none of it feels tight or tender. There is definitely no swelling, no bruising, or any other sign of damage. 11. It feels better after a warm up, but I'm still conscious of it. There is no certain time of the day where it's worse or better but depending on how I sleep, some mornings can be rougher than others. 12. I have had no previous injury history anywhere near that area. 13. I'm actively trying to maintain as neutral of a posture as possible. I try to avoid excessive pelvic tilt as well as hyperextension of my spine. This goes for both when i'm on my feet or sitting down. 14. The most I do for my chest is pull-ups. Oddly enough, that exercise does not activate the pain. My routine involves mainly Olympic lifting and I do not play any other sport. 15. Pressing on that area does not produce any tenderness or pain. Expanding my lungs and thus pushing my rib cage out from deep breathing does not produce any pain.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this and try to help.
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Two years ago I was playing badminton, when I would reach back to hit shots that were above and already a little behind me I had this terrible muscle pain in my shoulder. It felt sort of like I dislocated it, blinding pain. Spent the next two nights unable to sleep on that shoulder. Anyway, I forgot about it until the start of the season (baseball) when I couldn't throw over the top because I'd get the same pain. Only happens when I try to throw, I lift on it and its fine. The only exercise that hurts me is like an extended arm dumbell hitler salute but with the dumbell straight up and down, horizontal is fine. Anyway, I went to the doctor and apparently I cracked some bone at the end in my shoulder, I'm not even sure which. So now two years later, I still can't throw over the top, best I can do is this wonky 3/4th short arm. Its really frustrating, does anyone have a similar experience or some exercises to recommend? Thoughts on why this hasn't healed, anything :/
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My feets hurt!!!
I've been running for years and have always had the occasional odd ache and pain here and there and generally just ignored them and they always went away. I basically stopped running in september last year and started again in april, my first few runs went fine, then one day walking around at lunch time my foot just started hurting like crazy, stopped running for 2 weeks and limped around. Eventually it went away then I got the exact same pain in my other foot. I didn't feel like taking another 2 weeks off so I'm just toughening it out. The odd thing is my feet feel fine when I run, then one will ache like crazy from just walking. This is the spot where my foot aches:
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/10/a-firm-foundation-focusing-on-the-feet/
Scroll way down to the most frequent area of pain diagram, my pain is in the rarest %5 spot, wtf? Outside edge middle of my foot. I've never had an ache there before, why now? I know I had a long break, but still, never ever had something hurt this much before. My left foot feels perfect now, right foot is still tender, but getting better so I'm not worried about it, just wondering if anyone else encountered something funky like this before.
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On June 26 2012 13:06 MeShiet wrote:Although I'm not sure if this pain is due to a specific incident I was hoping I could still get your opinion on it. + Show Spoiler +1. The pain is located quite high on the body of my sternum. About 4-5 fingers down from the bottom of the sternoclavicular joint 2. The pain flares up during any kind of transverse adduction movements regardless of weight. As for exercises, pushups will activate the pain and on some occasions when I push my chest out during the second pull of a clean or snatch (from above knee to hip) 3. It is definitely more of a sharp pain. Once I activate it, it comes very abruptly and dissipates in a second or two. There is no lingering pain, numbness, or tingling. 4. I would rate it at a 6 if I do squeeze hard doing shoulder transverse adduction movements, maybe a 2-4 when stretching or doing the Olympic lifts 5. This pain developed about 2 weeks ago. The pain has not improved when doing the aforementioned movements, but otherwise will not flare up if I avoid them. 6. I have been training through this pain since it developed. 7. The pain feels pretty superficial. The most accurate I can describe it as is that it feels like it starts 5 fingers down from the sternoclavicular joint, right down the middle. That is where the pain is most intense. It does not feel like it spreads to anything else. 8. For recovery, I have done a lot of pectoral stretches and rolling out. I have also done the same with my upper back. 9. At first, stretching out the pectoralis minor would help make the pain go away and keep it away even if i did the things that would normally make it hurt but that was very temporary and after a few days, even stretching out those muscles did not help. The pain is about as painful each time depending on what I'm doing. 10. I have very little muscle around that area but with all the stretching and rolling out I've done on it anyways, none of it feels tight or tender. There is definitely no swelling, no bruising, or any other sign of damage. 11. It feels better after a warm up, but I'm still conscious of it. There is no certain time of the day where it's worse or better but depending on how I sleep, some mornings can be rougher than others. 12. I have had no previous injury history anywhere near that area. 13. I'm actively trying to maintain as neutral of a posture as possible. I try to avoid excessive pelvic tilt as well as hyperextension of my spine. This goes for both when i'm on my feet or sitting down. 14. The most I do for my chest is pull-ups. Oddly enough, that exercise does not activate the pain. My routine involves mainly Olympic lifting and I do not play any other sport. 15. Pressing on that area does not produce any tenderness or pain. Expanding my lungs and thus pushing my rib cage out from deep breathing does not produce any pain. Thank you so much for taking the time to read this and try to help.
+ Show Spoiler +So you can give yourself costcondritis/tietze syndrome/etc. by aggravating your costal cartilages by doing this.
Since the origin of the pecs is on the sternum and partially on the costal cartilages, if you haven't used your chest in resistance trainig much before the connective tissues aren't as strong. Thus, when you do a deep movement where you really stretch out the pecs/chest like dips, the origin of the muscle on the costal cartilages can start to pull them away from the costal facets on the sternum
Obviously, this creates inflammation and in general can lead to some popping and hurting.
Best thing you can do is REST AND LET IT HEAL. Take your anti-inflammatories to help decrease inflammation and allow healign to occur. Fish oil is always good. Massage to the area works as well.
Ice if it helps. Otherwise, once it starts feeling better use heat to stimulate more blood flow to encourage faster healing from the body since the area does not get a lot of blood flow as it is bone/cartilage in that area.
Keep the muscles working through full but non-weight bearing and non-painful range of motion so that the muscles don't tighten up on you, and the muscle movement will also help stimulate blood flow to the area as well.
Usually, if you didn't chronically aggravate you should be able to get back to exercising within a week.
Just avoid the exercise that aggravates it for a while, and focus on other exercises that are less intense of the chest... and then work your way back into these SLOWLY so you don't reaggravate your condition.
Also, work on your posture!! Poor posture can put the tissues in a poor position and aggravate it
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On June 26 2012 14:46 n.DieJokes wrote:
Two years ago I was playing badminton, when I would reach back to hit shots that were above and already a little behind me I had this terrible muscle pain in my shoulder. It felt sort of like I dislocated it, blinding pain. Spent the next two nights unable to sleep on that shoulder. Anyway, I forgot about it until the start of the season (baseball) when I couldn't throw over the top because I'd get the same pain. Only happens when I try to throw, I lift on it and its fine. The only exercise that hurts me is like an extended arm dumbell hitler salute but with the dumbell straight up and down, horizontal is fine. Anyway, I went to the doctor and apparently I cracked some bone at the end in my shoulder, I'm not even sure which. So now two years later, I still can't throw over the top, best I can do is this wonky 3/4th short arm. Its really frustrating, does anyone have a similar experience or some exercises to recommend? Thoughts on why this hasn't healed, anything :/
I kind of need that diagnosis from your doc, as it is important to what type of rehabilitation work you should do.
However, In my opinion, you should have a physical therapist / physiotherapist assess your shoulder range of motion and muscle strength to get an idea of what personally you need to be working on for rehab as well.
It differs from person to person, and like I've said here many times a dislocation/subluxation does not always have the same protocols depending on the direction you may have dislocated it AND any pre-existing or concurrent muscular imbalances and instability.
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On June 27 2012 03:25 EAGER-beaver wrote:My feets hurt!!! I've been running for years and have always had the occasional odd ache and pain here and there and generally just ignored them and they always went away. I basically stopped running in september last year and started again in april, my first few runs went fine, then one day walking around at lunch time my foot just started hurting like crazy, stopped running for 2 weeks and limped around. Eventually it went away then I got the exact same pain in my other foot. I didn't feel like taking another 2 weeks off so I'm just toughening it out. The odd thing is my feet feel fine when I run, then one will ache like crazy from just walking. This is the spot where my foot aches: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/10/a-firm-foundation-focusing-on-the-feet/Scroll way down to the most frequent area of pain diagram, my pain is in the rarest %5 spot, wtf? Outside edge middle of my foot. I've never had an ache there before, why now? I know I had a long break, but still, never ever had something hurt this much before. My left foot feels perfect now, right foot is still tender, but getting better so I'm not worried about it, just wondering if anyone else encountered something funky like this before.
http://basicallybarefoot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/DSC_4224.jpg
That where your pain is?
Fibularis brevis (or if you prefer the old nomenclature of peroneus brevis) where the tendon inserts into the 5th metatarsal head on the lateral edge of the foot... common site of pain.
I didn't really put that into the above article because it's not really a common spot of tendonitis for those with the shoes/sitting type issues.
However, it can be a problem if you're a supinator or have high arches which hopefully you have because it would fit with how the pathology develops.
The problem is I don't exactly know which part of the gait cycle is aggravating your foot so much.
Have you recently changed shoes or worn out your old ones?
Any other potential injuries before this or concurrently?
I would suggest some massage to the muscles and the plantar arch of the foot and calf to help loosen up things to see if that helps, but otherwise I would tend to say go to a physical therapist as the apophysitis (pain at the tendon insertion) can be a bit different in pathology than actual tendonitis.
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On June 27 2012 20:59 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 03:25 EAGER-beaver wrote:My feets hurt!!! I've been running for years and have always had the occasional odd ache and pain here and there and generally just ignored them and they always went away. I basically stopped running in september last year and started again in april, my first few runs went fine, then one day walking around at lunch time my foot just started hurting like crazy, stopped running for 2 weeks and limped around. Eventually it went away then I got the exact same pain in my other foot. I didn't feel like taking another 2 weeks off so I'm just toughening it out. The odd thing is my feet feel fine when I run, then one will ache like crazy from just walking. This is the spot where my foot aches: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/10/a-firm-foundation-focusing-on-the-feet/Scroll way down to the most frequent area of pain diagram, my pain is in the rarest %5 spot, wtf? Outside edge middle of my foot. I've never had an ache there before, why now? I know I had a long break, but still, never ever had something hurt this much before. My left foot feels perfect now, right foot is still tender, but getting better so I'm not worried about it, just wondering if anyone else encountered something funky like this before. http://basicallybarefoot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/DSC_4224.jpgThat where your pain is? Fibularis brevis (or if you prefer the old nomenclature of peroneus brevis) where the tendon inserts into the 5th metatarsal head on the lateral edge of the foot... common site of pain. I didn't really put that into the above article because it's not really a common spot of tendonitis for those with the shoes/sitting type issues. However, it can be a problem if you're a supinator or have high arches which hopefully you have because it would fit with how the pathology develops. The problem is I don't exactly know which part of the gait cycle is aggravating your foot so much. Have you recently changed shoes or worn out your old ones? Any other potential injuries before this or concurrently? I would suggest some massage to the muscles and the plantar arch of the foot and calf to help loosen up things to see if that helps, but otherwise I would tend to say go to a physical therapist as the apophysitis (pain at the tendon insertion) can be a bit different in pathology than actual tendonitis.
Yep that's the spot. I've been running with the same trail shoes for the past 3 years, they're worn out but I used to run in casual shoes with no padding/arch support. No injuries of note, except for a sprained ankle 2 years ago but that has never bothered me even though I run primarily on uneven rocky/dirt paths. My foot hurts when it hits the ground lol I dunno much aboot gait cycles. There's no swelling and there's no pain when I rub it, it only hurts after a run, triggered by just walking around.
It's not a serious injury, my left foot is back to it's old self and my right foot is rapidly recovering faster and faster, it's just odd that I'd get this for the first time in my life, in my left foot, then later in my right foot in the exact same place, exact same pain. I know my body, I'm familiar with the regular aches and pains I go through when I start training again after a long lay over, this foot thing is brand new and hit me so hard at first I had to stop running for almost 2 weeks, something I've never had to do before aside from the aforementioned ankle sprain I got giving my little cousin a piggy back ride.
I was just curious what it was and if anyone had run into it before. Now I know that it's Fibularis brevis and a common injury.
EDIT: Looking at that diagram it's so weird that something in my leg is causing my foot to hurt, it's black magic I tell you!
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