EPTAnd just out of curiosity, if you could crank a 6:10 going uphill in the last third of a 5k, why did you go out at high 7s? Were you just easing back into racing?
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
And just out of curiosity, if you could crank a 6:10 going uphill in the last third of a 5k, why did you go out at high 7s? Were you just easing back into racing? | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On May 07 2013 23:16 Bonham wrote: Ugh, that's terrible. I hope it's just a niggling injury that goes away quickly, whatever it is. Let us know how it goes – can you jog at all? And just out of curiosity, if you could crank a 6:10 going uphill in the last third of a 5k, why did you go out at high 7s? Were you just easing back into racing? Going in the aim was basically just to jog three miles, but knowing myself I knew I would likely have a hard time not racing, so the plan was to just ease into it, and if it felt good gradually put the pedal down. Was still free of any discomfort after 2 miles so I started letting myself move. I'm almost 100% confident that the new shit has nothing to do with the race itself. The calf cramp 100% doesn't and the new pain seems very unlikely that it would, since I felt fine walking around after the race. | ||
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-VapidSlug-
United States108 Posts
On May 06 2013 08:06 L_Master wrote: 5'8". Yes, you can. You just have to lift and then eat a caloric surplus. 6' here, when I was training for ultradistance I was 167, now doing cardio body-weight training (Insanity and asylum 1/2) and currently weigh 186. It is possible to maintain both depending on how you define "running" and "athletic." People that train a few times per week to do well in 5k weekend runs can maintain a fairly large amount of muscle mass. However, if you are pushing to be the best in 10k+ runs you will not be able to keep the muscle of a basketball player, but you will still look athletic because your muscles are more superficial (less body fat covering them). Lifting and an absurd calorie intake will help maintain some mass, but I can tell you from experience that once you begin intense cardio (running/cycling/swimming) you will absolutely lose progress on your lifting maxes especially if you lift for power rather than strength--there is no way around it. You can build both cardio and strength/power, but if you want your best out of one you must sacrifice the other. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
Any short distance (100m or less?) runners here? | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On May 08 2013 04:29 decafchicken wrote: Yeah...something tells me my mass and lifts would take a huge hit if i did distance running (6'1 225). Planning on upping the sprinting for the summer. Going to start off with some 100m interval sprints this week and progress from there. Any short distance (100m or less?) runners here? If you are running 100m sprints, I wouldn't take them at true 100% as that ends up being a good recipe for injury. "Relaxed" full speed is the best way to think of it. If you are going purely for power/speed development then flying 30s, 40s, and 60s are common, as those distance are short enough you don't entirely deplete the creatine phosphate energy stores. It's unfortunate, but we don't really seem to have any sprinters here. I remember one guy posting about sprints like 30 pages back, but that's it. I'm curious as to what sort of sprint times you can run as I know you put up pretty solid numbers for Olympic lifts and those athletes tend to be very explosive. | ||
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Xialos
Canada508 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On May 08 2013 07:01 Xialos wrote: I have a very noob question lol, but i'm serious so dont make fun of me. So I just started running in the morning (around 7am) and now im wondering : Should I take my breakfast before of after running. (I usually run for 40-60 mins). thanks Why would anyone make fun of you? In answer to your question: whatever works for you. Some people feel fine running before breakfast, and in fact some people find that having food in their stomach that early causes GI issues. Others feel like they have more energy if they have eaten something first. Try both and do whatever works best for you. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
If I eat a heavy meal even the night before a long run I sometimes feel kinda crappy the following morning. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
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Shottaz
United Kingdom414 Posts
On May 08 2013 07:01 Xialos wrote: I have a very noob question lol, but i'm serious so dont make fun of me. So I just started running in the morning (around 7am) and now im wondering : Should I take my breakfast before of after running. (I usually run for 40-60 mins). thanks I used to run at 6:15am having not eaten and it wasn't particularly bad but now I have a really small bowl of cereal or something like a banana or apple, then wait about 15-20 mins (browse TL lol) then do the run and I feel better having eaten. | ||
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-VapidSlug-
United States108 Posts
On May 08 2013 06:42 L_Master wrote:It's unfortunate, but we don't really seem to have any sprinters here That's because sprinters generally run out of things to do after high school and (rarely) college. There is no event where 40 thousand people show up to do the annual 100m dash for a few seconds. It really is unfortunate though; I was primarily an 800m runner and I ran into this same problem. Very occasionally you can find open track meets that people host like 5ks but I only know of about 2 of them per year that are a 4 hour drive away from my area. If you are a sprinter and want to compete in running you almost have to give in to endurance =( | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
On May 08 2013 23:27 -VapidSlug- wrote: If you are a sprinter and want to compete in running you almost have to give in to endurance =( One of us! One of us! One of us! :p | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On May 08 2013 23:27 -VapidSlug- wrote: That's because sprinters generally run out of things to do after high school and (rarely) college. There is no event where 40 thousand people show up to do the annual 100m dash for a few seconds. It really is unfortunate though; I was primarily an 800m runner and I ran into this same problem. Very occasionally you can find open track meets that people host like 5ks but I only know of about 2 of them per year that are a 4 hour drive away from my area. If you are a sprinter and want to compete in running you almost have to give in to endurance =( Yea, if you aren't good enough to be "semi-pro" after college it definitely makes it hard. Usually the best you can do is try to join the local track club, as well as continue to compete un attached at local college meets. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On May 08 2013 06:42 L_Master wrote: If you are running 100m sprints, I wouldn't take them at true 100% as that ends up being a good recipe for injury. "Relaxed" full speed is the best way to think of it. If you are going purely for power/speed development then flying 30s, 40s, and 60s are common, as those distance are short enough you don't entirely deplete the creatine phosphate energy stores. It's unfortunate, but we don't really seem to have any sprinters here. I remember one guy posting about sprints like 30 pages back, but that's it. I'm curious as to what sort of sprint times you can run as I know you put up pretty solid numbers for Olympic lifts and those athletes tend to be very explosive. ah yeah i know what you mean by relaxed full speed. i try to relax a lot when i'm running and let only the muscles i need do the work for max efficiency (just like in oly lifting) then go balls out for the last couple. what are flying 30s/40s/60s? and yeah i'd like to know what my sprint times are at. best 40 from a few years ago was about 4.75 (by hand). | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:52 decafchicken wrote: ah yeah i know what you mean by relaxed full speed. i try to relax a lot when i'm running and let only the muscles i need do the work for max efficiency (just like in oly lifting) then go balls out for the last couple. what are flying 30s/40s/60s? and yeah i'd like to know what my sprint times are at. best 40 from a few years ago was about 4.75 (by hand). Flying basically means with a running start, and then the number is distance in meters, So flying 30 is like gradual acceleration to top end, then 30m all out. That's one of the more common ways to work true top speed. By the time your sprinting 100m+ you are starting to work a little more on speed endurance as opposed to raw speed. | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
In norway where I live. So many men wear tights. I just don't know if I can be comfortable wearing that? I actually got a nice ass (at least people say so) but still feels gay to wear. The important thing to know is that I do not wear clothes for looks, just for performance. | ||
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-VapidSlug-
United States108 Posts
On May 09 2013 04:15 llIH wrote: What do you guys (men specifically) wear when you run outside? I just want to hear the general opinion in here. In norway where I live. So many men wear tights. I just don't know if I can be comfortable wearing that? I actually got a nice ass (at least people say so) but still feels gay to wear. The important thing to know is that I do not wear clothes for looks, just for performance. http://runnerslane.com/asics-mens-myles-ii-run-pant-black/ My favorite type of running attire for winter. I live in the midwest in temps that can easily drop below -34c. These pants are very stretchy so they don't impede. They are also tough as mine have survived bike wrecks without holes. If the temp drops below -18c or so you can wear tights beneath these and be very warm.. if you are so worried about the look of tights haha. | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
On May 09 2013 05:27 -VapidSlug- wrote: http://runnerslane.com/asics-mens-myles-ii-run-pant-black/ My favorite type of running attire for winter. I live in the midwest in temps that can easily drop below -34c. These pants are very stretchy so they don't impede. They are also tough as mine have survived bike wrecks without holes. If the temp drops below -18c or so you can wear tights beneath these and be very warm.. if you are so worried about the look of tights haha. Thanks man. Im just not a tights guy. :D | ||
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berated-
United States1134 Posts
On May 09 2013 04:15 llIH wrote: What do you guys (men specifically) wear when you run outside? I just want to hear the general opinion in here. In norway where I live. So many men wear tights. I just don't know if I can be comfortable wearing that? I actually got a nice ass (at least people say so) but still feels gay to wear. The important thing to know is that I do not wear clothes for looks, just for performance. I wear running shorts year round. It's South Carolina...it doesn't get that cold. | ||
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JumboJohnson
537 Posts
 My job keeps me moderately active, I move ice all day so i get some strength exercise but have never really had good cardio endurance. I wanted to start running to change that and lose a little flab. I'm 5'9" about 170 pounds.I've started with a nice slow jog to start, barely more than a walk, but i can do it for 20 mins at ~13 min/mile pace. Going to shoot for 4 days a week to start. Building up from there. Does this sound good? Advice? | ||
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