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Need some advice. So, right now I'm entering 11 weeks of lifting 5 times a week for football offseason. Always cheated offseason by playing other sports nad lived at home for free food but know I live on my own.
Need tips for food that is cheap, easy to make (microwave, sometimes frying pan) and will help me put on muscle.
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spaghetti and sloppy joes are pretty easy to make
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some ideas:
- canned tuna/salmon
- cheap cuts of pork; you can actually microwave this lol. it won't taste that great, but add a bit of sriracha, hot sauce, or other sauce/condiment and it's a cheap way to get protein
- ground beef; toss this in the frying pan with a big bag of mixed greens, microwaveable
- chicken thighs and drumsticks; if you have a pot, just boil these suckers with whatever spices, herbs, or marinade you choose
- white rice; imo worth getting a cheap rice cooker for rice. you can make a lot, put extras in the fridge, and eat this with whatever meat and veggies youre making.
- potatoes and sweet potatoes are both can satisfy your carb needs and are microwaveable (google for instructions)
- frozen veggies (spinach, kale, broccoli, carrots, peas, etc) are microwaveable if youre in a hurry, or you can panfry them for better taste. put some butter or olive oil on them for taste and calories
- big bag of frozen mixed berries, cuz you need a cheap, convenient, easy way to get your fruit
or simplify your life and get a crockpot, and just throw everything in there, press a button, and you don't have to worry about actually cooking lol.
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On January 10 2014 17:00 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 15:11 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 10 2014 11:41 IgnE wrote:On January 10 2014 10:46 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 10 2014 01:07 decafchicken wrote:On January 09 2014 17:36 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 08 2014 15:43 IgnE wrote:On January 08 2014 15:26 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 07 2014 22:40 zatic wrote:
Rule of thumb is 1-2g per kg BW for building muscle - since that doesn't seem to be your main focus you can probably get by with the lower range, say about 100g. The 150g won't hurt though either. It'll put stress on his kidneys. Lot's of body builders out there have been saying that the protein thing is over hyped. I don't know why so many people worry about their protein or nutritional intake of fat's, carb's, and protein and have to count out all of the grams and everything. Most of the best athletes and even power lifters from the past and even to this day just listen to their body and eat regular meals. You can get huge even on a low protein diet. I'm sure that most of the huge prison inmates aren't supplementing with protein. How big are you? Post us some pics of your flexed muscles. It doesn't put stress on kidneys, except in the tautological way that the kidneys do work. It does not impair kidney function in any way. That is false. You are lying. Very few bodybuilders out there say that. No large, elite-level bodybuilders say that. You are lying. Most people cannot get huge on a low protein diet. A few can because they have great genetics. But they would be even more huge on a high-protein diet. You are factually incorrect on the prison thing. Believe what you want, call me a liar if you want, facts are facts. Most professional body builders are so big because they take illegal drugs. Also, there is a ton of evidence showing that a high protein diet can screw up your kidneys and yes, put stress on them. Even Rich Piano Mr California admits that the protein thing is over hyped and high protein put's stress on the kidneys and look at how blown up he is. It only strains the kidneys if you have renal disease, in which case DUH. There is no evidence of protein toxicity due to high protein intakes on kidney function in healthy people. Diets that regularly exceed the recommendations for protein intake have been found to lead to an increased glomerular filtration rate in the kidneys in healthy people. The body adapts to the increase in protein and functions accordingly. SourceI honestly don't care that you're trolling, I just don't want other people to see your bullshit and take it seriously. Go away. Bullshit. Show some evidence that high protein does not fuck up your kidneys over time. You just like to believe in the evidence that shows that what you do (eat a shitty high fat diet cooked meat diet) is healthy just like how religious people will post evidence that their religion is the correct one to make themselves feel better. You're no different than those people, now please, post some evidence showcasing that eating greasy bacon, eggs, and sausage for breakfast is heart healthy and that a Paleo fad diet is better than eating Vegan and supplementing with B12. There is a ton of evidence out there showcasing that vegan diets are superior and that the civilizations that ate the least amount of meat lived the longest and even current civilizations that consume only a small amount of meat live longer on average than those that eat more cooked meat. I'm posting and replying to you so that someone doesn't get the idea that eating high on the food chain and thinks that their unhealthly eating ways (such as eating sausage, bacon, eggs, biscuits, doughnuts, butter, pork, etc) is healthy when it;s actually been proven to cause a ton of degenerative diseases. Also, eating a high carb diet you're going to end up calorie restricting so you'll live an additional 40-50% longer than those on a standard high fat diet (most calories come from fat on a high calorie diet, hence why you would have to eat a crazy amount of high carb fruits/vegetables to even hit 3-4K calories.) You are the one claiming it harms your kidneys. You are the one with the burden of proof. Show some evidence it harms kidneys. Oh, you don't have any. "Burden of proof"...... I didn't know that this was an atheism debate LOL. There's plenty of proof out there that a high protein diet is harmful for your kidneys. Why do you think that those with kidney problems are advised to stay away from foods high in protein and why do you think Dr's check to see our protein count in our urine..... Diet's high in protein stress the kidneys out and this is well known, a simple google search by you would show the research and documentation on this. Paleo fad dieters would rather think otherwise because they naturally eat a diet high in protein. There's plenty of proof out there that solid foods are harmful for your esophageal passage and present a choking hazard. Why do you think that those with broken jaws are advised to stay away from solid foods and why do you think Dr's check to make sure you aren't turning blue when you eat..... Diet's high in solid foods stress the throat and this is well known, a simple google search by you would show the research and documentation on this. Solid food apologists would rather think otherwise because they naturally eat a diet high in solid foods. Oh ok, I get it. You are talking out of your ass in addition to being a rather dim bulb.
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/03.13/09-kidney.html
There, high protein is known to put stress on the kidneys. This has been well documented. Also note how animal protein is the main problem. You can supplement with brown rice protein and be fine.
Also, you can get huge and be very strong without cooked animal meat.
Germany's strongest man is a vegan and he's huge and as strong as hell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian
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On January 11 2014 05:47 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +post some evidence showcasing that eating greasy bacon, eggs, and sausage for breakfast is heart healthy and that a Paleo fad diet is better than eating Vegan and supplementing with B12. paleo isn't eating bacon, eggs, and sausage. paleo isn't even supposed to include sausage because it's processed and full of salt and other shit. paleo is eating non-processed meats, fish, eggs, nuts, vegetables, and fruits, and not eating processed foods and grains. and for studies, because you didn't read the op: http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/78/11/1331.full.pdfhttp://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa022637http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/88/4/1617.full?l=5579341http://www.annals.org/content/140/10/769.shorthttp://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-789X.2008.00518.x/fullhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22037012http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20683785http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18991244http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21776466http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19369056http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21134328http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15164336http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18991244http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18203890http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17531457http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16340654http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/01/does-dietary-saturated-fat-increase.htmlhttp://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstracthttp://www.ajcn.org/content/80/5/1175.full.pdf htmlhttp://healthydietsandscience.blogspot.com/2011/03/high-saturated-fat-diet-gives.htmlhttp://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/78/11/1331.full.pdfhttp://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002934396004561
Okay, so TLDR you believe everything you read on the internet despite what the national nutritional guidelines say, and you go against the advice of Dr's and cardiologists a long with nutritionists.
Got it.
Also, according to those studies you can eat all of the greasy bacon and eggs that you want and it would be heart healthly.
Please also show me some demography of people that are known to have the longest life expectancy on a meat based diet.
Following a diet based around what cavemen ate (most of which who would be considered lucky to make it to age 16) is so silly that I find it funny that such a diet even exists as it makes no logical sense.
Someone can live off of snickers bars for 20+ years but that doesn't mean it's optimal.
We live in modern times when we know that cholesterol is bad, animal protein is bad, and that eating more nutrient dense food's that are lower in calories and are foods that come directly from the earth such as greens are the best foods on the planet and such a diet will let you live 40%-50% longer if not more than the general population because you're hitting your micro nutrient needs and eating low cal due to eating foods with less fat in them that are already low in calories.
This is why those in certain parts of Asia have such a high lief expectancy eating brown rice, legumes, and other plant based foods that are low in fat yet according to the Paleor's these people should have heart disease and other diseases because grains and legumes are "bad" compared to greasy animal foods.
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Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this.
The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.
The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum).
I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field.
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turning vegan after you built your muscles and doing a PR stunt nobody had bothered before in a capped weight class is not being the strongest man in germany because you are a vegan (it is a great feat though)
Also, the only strong vegan ever in the world doesn't prove much :p
Also I don't think I need to point amount the amount of steroids needed to weight 240 pounds at 5 6
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On January 11 2014 14:28 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 17:00 IgnE wrote:On January 10 2014 15:11 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 10 2014 11:41 IgnE wrote:On January 10 2014 10:46 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 10 2014 01:07 decafchicken wrote:On January 09 2014 17:36 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 08 2014 15:43 IgnE wrote:On January 08 2014 15:26 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 07 2014 22:40 zatic wrote:
Rule of thumb is 1-2g per kg BW for building muscle - since that doesn't seem to be your main focus you can probably get by with the lower range, say about 100g. The 150g won't hurt though either. It'll put stress on his kidneys. Lot's of body builders out there have been saying that the protein thing is over hyped. I don't know why so many people worry about their protein or nutritional intake of fat's, carb's, and protein and have to count out all of the grams and everything. Most of the best athletes and even power lifters from the past and even to this day just listen to their body and eat regular meals. You can get huge even on a low protein diet. I'm sure that most of the huge prison inmates aren't supplementing with protein. How big are you? Post us some pics of your flexed muscles. It doesn't put stress on kidneys, except in the tautological way that the kidneys do work. It does not impair kidney function in any way. That is false. You are lying. Very few bodybuilders out there say that. No large, elite-level bodybuilders say that. You are lying. Most people cannot get huge on a low protein diet. A few can because they have great genetics. But they would be even more huge on a high-protein diet. You are factually incorrect on the prison thing. Believe what you want, call me a liar if you want, facts are facts. Most professional body builders are so big because they take illegal drugs. Also, there is a ton of evidence showing that a high protein diet can screw up your kidneys and yes, put stress on them. Even Rich Piano Mr California admits that the protein thing is over hyped and high protein put's stress on the kidneys and look at how blown up he is. It only strains the kidneys if you have renal disease, in which case DUH. There is no evidence of protein toxicity due to high protein intakes on kidney function in healthy people. Diets that regularly exceed the recommendations for protein intake have been found to lead to an increased glomerular filtration rate in the kidneys in healthy people. The body adapts to the increase in protein and functions accordingly. SourceI honestly don't care that you're trolling, I just don't want other people to see your bullshit and take it seriously. Go away. Bullshit. Show some evidence that high protein does not fuck up your kidneys over time. You just like to believe in the evidence that shows that what you do (eat a shitty high fat diet cooked meat diet) is healthy just like how religious people will post evidence that their religion is the correct one to make themselves feel better. You're no different than those people, now please, post some evidence showcasing that eating greasy bacon, eggs, and sausage for breakfast is heart healthy and that a Paleo fad diet is better than eating Vegan and supplementing with B12. There is a ton of evidence out there showcasing that vegan diets are superior and that the civilizations that ate the least amount of meat lived the longest and even current civilizations that consume only a small amount of meat live longer on average than those that eat more cooked meat. I'm posting and replying to you so that someone doesn't get the idea that eating high on the food chain and thinks that their unhealthly eating ways (such as eating sausage, bacon, eggs, biscuits, doughnuts, butter, pork, etc) is healthy when it;s actually been proven to cause a ton of degenerative diseases. Also, eating a high carb diet you're going to end up calorie restricting so you'll live an additional 40-50% longer than those on a standard high fat diet (most calories come from fat on a high calorie diet, hence why you would have to eat a crazy amount of high carb fruits/vegetables to even hit 3-4K calories.) You are the one claiming it harms your kidneys. You are the one with the burden of proof. Show some evidence it harms kidneys. Oh, you don't have any. "Burden of proof"...... I didn't know that this was an atheism debate LOL. There's plenty of proof out there that a high protein diet is harmful for your kidneys. Why do you think that those with kidney problems are advised to stay away from foods high in protein and why do you think Dr's check to see our protein count in our urine..... Diet's high in protein stress the kidneys out and this is well known, a simple google search by you would show the research and documentation on this. Paleo fad dieters would rather think otherwise because they naturally eat a diet high in protein. There's plenty of proof out there that solid foods are harmful for your esophageal passage and present a choking hazard. Why do you think that those with broken jaws are advised to stay away from solid foods and why do you think Dr's check to make sure you aren't turning blue when you eat..... Diet's high in solid foods stress the throat and this is well known, a simple google search by you would show the research and documentation on this. Solid food apologists would rather think otherwise because they naturally eat a diet high in solid foods. Oh ok, I get it. You are talking out of your ass in addition to being a rather dim bulb. http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/03.13/09-kidney.htmlThere, high protein is known to put stress on the kidneys. This has been well documented. Also note how animal protein is the main problem. You can supplement with brown rice protein and be fine. Also, you can get huge and be very strong without cooked animal meat. Germany's strongest man is a vegan and he's huge and as strong as hell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian
In the single piece of evidence that you could find on all of google it says plain as day that there is no association between high protein intake and decline in kidney function in people with normal kidney function. It's in the fucking abstract. Do you bother to read what you post?
You link a man who started bodybuilding in his teens and only went vegan in 2011 after spending the majority of his life eating meat and lots of it. You only prove that it's nearly impossible to build such a body without eating meat.
You are either an idiot or a troll. Probably both, since it's weird that you cite the government guidelines for nutrition and health and praise cardiologists' recommendations in the same breath, despite previously denouncing doctors and the government for hawking ADHD medications.
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On January 11 2014 16:13 GoTuNk! wrote:
turning vegan after you built your muscles and doing a PR stunt nobody had bothered before in a capped weight class is not being the strongest man in germany because you are a vegan (it is a great feat though)
Also, the only strong vegan ever in the world doesn't prove much :p
Also I don't think I need to point amount the amount of steroids needed to weight 240 pounds at 5 6
+1. Also, if you pump enough roids into your body you can pretty damn big and strong without having your diet in check.
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Lol that is hilarious. In the study Sj linked, it says this right in the first paragraph:
We found that among women with mildly reduced kidney function - about 25 percent of individuals in our study - a higher-protein diet may lead to accelerated decline in kidney function compared with a lower-protein diet."
Anyway, on to my question. I don't usually drink orange juice, only on the weekends when I have time to eat a proper breakfast, but do the artificially added calcium/vitamin D and other minerals/vitamins actually get absorbed by the bloodstream with efficiently? I've heard that there's very little absorption of the calcium when you drink OJ that's artificially enhanced with it, but I am not sure about the Vitamin D and I can't seem to find any studies from recent years about calcium/Vitamin D fortified orange juice.
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The vitamin D is probably a small dose anyway. Should be shooting for like 5-10k IU. So I wouldn't use oj as your primary source.
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On January 12 2014 04:20 IgnE wrote:
The vitamin D is probably a small dose anyway. Should be shooting for like 5-10k IU. So I wouldn't use oj as your primary source.
I wasn't, I was just wondering because my family sometimes buys the vitamin D/calcium fortified OJ and I was wondering if it actually did anything. I should probably start supplementing Vitamin D/fish oil though..
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On January 11 2014 15:12 Catch wrote:
Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this.
The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.
The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum).
I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field.
Go read the China Study or other research that has been done and read what the National Heart Association has to say on diet instead of random people on the internet.
His 10 studies are internet studies and are bullshit.
I'm sorry but I have enough critical thinking skills to know that greasy bacon, eggs, and other fatty foods a long with other foods higher up on the food chain are bad for your body and make your blood thicker.
No "study" will convince me to think otherwise as common sense would tell you that fatty foods and oils will just thicken your blood and are bad for you a long with the fact that foods lower on the food chain are the best for you as they are more pure.
As far as I'm concerned all of the studies he posted a long with the Paleo diet is just a conspiracy or scheme to keep people eating the way they already are in America to keep people sick.
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On January 11 2014 20:32 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 14:28 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 10 2014 17:00 IgnE wrote:On January 10 2014 15:11 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 10 2014 11:41 IgnE wrote:On January 10 2014 10:46 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 10 2014 01:07 decafchicken wrote:On January 09 2014 17:36 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 08 2014 15:43 IgnE wrote:On January 08 2014 15:26 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:
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It'll put stress on his kidneys.
Lot's of body builders out there have been saying that the protein thing is over hyped.
I don't know why so many people worry about their protein or nutritional intake of fat's, carb's, and protein and have to count out all of the grams and everything.
Most of the best athletes and even power lifters from the past and even to this day just listen to their body and eat regular meals.
You can get huge even on a low protein diet.
I'm sure that most of the huge prison inmates aren't supplementing with protein. How big are you? Post us some pics of your flexed muscles. It doesn't put stress on kidneys, except in the tautological way that the kidneys do work. It does not impair kidney function in any way. That is false. You are lying. Very few bodybuilders out there say that. No large, elite-level bodybuilders say that. You are lying. Most people cannot get huge on a low protein diet. A few can because they have great genetics. But they would be even more huge on a high-protein diet. You are factually incorrect on the prison thing. Believe what you want, call me a liar if you want, facts are facts. Most professional body builders are so big because they take illegal drugs. Also, there is a ton of evidence showing that a high protein diet can screw up your kidneys and yes, put stress on them. Even Rich Piano Mr California admits that the protein thing is over hyped and high protein put's stress on the kidneys and look at how blown up he is. It only strains the kidneys if you have renal disease, in which case DUH. There is no evidence of protein toxicity due to high protein intakes on kidney function in healthy people. Diets that regularly exceed the recommendations for protein intake have been found to lead to an increased glomerular filtration rate in the kidneys in healthy people. The body adapts to the increase in protein and functions accordingly. SourceI honestly don't care that you're trolling, I just don't want other people to see your bullshit and take it seriously. Go away. Bullshit. Show some evidence that high protein does not fuck up your kidneys over time. You just like to believe in the evidence that shows that what you do (eat a shitty high fat diet cooked meat diet) is healthy just like how religious people will post evidence that their religion is the correct one to make themselves feel better. You're no different than those people, now please, post some evidence showcasing that eating greasy bacon, eggs, and sausage for breakfast is heart healthy and that a Paleo fad diet is better than eating Vegan and supplementing with B12. There is a ton of evidence out there showcasing that vegan diets are superior and that the civilizations that ate the least amount of meat lived the longest and even current civilizations that consume only a small amount of meat live longer on average than those that eat more cooked meat. I'm posting and replying to you so that someone doesn't get the idea that eating high on the food chain and thinks that their unhealthly eating ways (such as eating sausage, bacon, eggs, biscuits, doughnuts, butter, pork, etc) is healthy when it;s actually been proven to cause a ton of degenerative diseases. Also, eating a high carb diet you're going to end up calorie restricting so you'll live an additional 40-50% longer than those on a standard high fat diet (most calories come from fat on a high calorie diet, hence why you would have to eat a crazy amount of high carb fruits/vegetables to even hit 3-4K calories.) You are the one claiming it harms your kidneys. You are the one with the burden of proof. Show some evidence it harms kidneys. Oh, you don't have any. "Burden of proof"...... I didn't know that this was an atheism debate LOL. There's plenty of proof out there that a high protein diet is harmful for your kidneys. Why do you think that those with kidney problems are advised to stay away from foods high in protein and why do you think Dr's check to see our protein count in our urine..... Diet's high in protein stress the kidneys out and this is well known, a simple google search by you would show the research and documentation on this. Paleo fad dieters would rather think otherwise because they naturally eat a diet high in protein. There's plenty of proof out there that solid foods are harmful for your esophageal passage and present a choking hazard. Why do you think that those with broken jaws are advised to stay away from solid foods and why do you think Dr's check to make sure you aren't turning blue when you eat..... Diet's high in solid foods stress the throat and this is well known, a simple google search by you would show the research and documentation on this. Solid food apologists would rather think otherwise because they naturally eat a diet high in solid foods. Oh ok, I get it. You are talking out of your ass in addition to being a rather dim bulb. http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/03.13/09-kidney.htmlThere, high protein is known to put stress on the kidneys. This has been well documented. Also note how animal protein is the main problem. You can supplement with brown rice protein and be fine. Also, you can get huge and be very strong without cooked animal meat. Germany's strongest man is a vegan and he's huge and as strong as hell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian In the single piece of evidence that you could find on all of google it says plain as day that there is no association between high protein intake and decline in kidney function in people with normal kidney function. It's in the fucking abstract. Do you bother to read what you post? You link a man who started bodybuilding in his teens and only went vegan in 2011 after spending the majority of his life eating meat and lots of it. You only prove that it's nearly impossible to build such a body without eating meat. You are either an idiot or a troll. Probably both, since it's weird that you cite the government guidelines for nutrition and health and praise cardiologists' recommendations in the same breath, despite previously denouncing doctors and the government for hawking ADHD medications.
Name calling is going to get us nowhere but I see that you're quite angry due to me calling out your bullshit diet and I can't blame you as kicking the shitty foods is almost as hard as quitting smoking.
I'm sorry that you can't kick the fatty meats and that you are so naive to the point where you believe that cholesterol and fatty meats like bacon are good for you and that you lack the critical thinking skills to see that the Paleo diet is BS.
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On January 11 2014 22:40 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:Lol that is hilarious. In the study Sj linked, it says this right in the first paragraph: Show nested quote +We found that among women with mildly reduced kidney function - about 25 percent of individuals in our study - a higher-protein diet may lead to accelerated decline in kidney function compared with a lower-protein diet." Anyway, on to my question. I don't usually drink orange juice, only on the weekends when I have time to eat a proper breakfast, but do the artificially added calcium/vitamin D and other minerals/vitamins actually get absorbed by the bloodstream with efficiently? I've heard that there's very little absorption of the calcium when you drink OJ that's artificially enhanced with it, but I am not sure about the Vitamin D and I can't seem to find any studies from recent years about calcium/Vitamin D fortified orange juice.
I don't see how it's funny since anyone can have reduced kidney function without even knowing it not to mention it is well known that a high protein intake can cause kidney problems.
For optimal kidney health almost anyone would recommend an average protein intake, definitely not high.
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Guys SjPhotoGrapher obviously has enough critical thinking skills to recognize the flaws in any study that contradicts his viewpoint. Who needs studies when you have common sense? Why are we feeding the troll again?
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On January 12 2014 10:47 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 15:12 Catch wrote:
Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this.
The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.
The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum).
I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field. Go read the China Study or other research that has been done and read what the National Heart Association has to say on diet instead of random people on the internet. His 10 studies are internet studies and are bullshit. I'm sorry but I have enough critical thinking skills to know that greasy bacon, eggs, and other fatty foods a long with other foods higher up on the food chain are bad for your body and make your blood thicker.
No "study" will convince me to think otherwise as common sense would tell you that fatty foods and oils will just thicken your blood and are bad for you a long with the fact that foods lower on the food chain are the best for you as they are more pure.
As far as I'm concerned all of the studies he posted a long with the Paleo diet is just a conspiracy or scheme to keep people eating the way they already are in America to keep people sick.
Hahahaha
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You need to brush up on some science SJP. You seem to think that digestion works via a kind of lipid osmosis.
High protein doesn't cause kidney damage. There is no evidence to suggest that it does.
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Serious question SJP: would tigers live longer on a plant-based diet too? Wouldn't they be better off with "pure" plant foods that don't have fats or cholesterol?
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even doctors (that sjp says he listens to) agree that dietary cholesterol has little or nothing to do with blood cholesterol.
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