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Zurich15366 Posts
On January 12 2014 10:47 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 15:12 Catch wrote:
Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this.
The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.
The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum).
I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field. No "study" will convince me to think otherwise as common sense would tell you that fatty foods and oils will just thicken your blood and are bad for you a long with the fact that foods lower on the food chain are the best for you as they are more pure.
Since you say yourself right there that you have no interest in discussing anything here I am going to tell you to stop posting in this forum.
If you make another post with radical claims, zero backup, and zero engagement in discussion you will be banned from this forum.
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Just read this:
http://weightliftingepiphanies.blogspot.com/2009/02/creatine-supplementation-implications.html
Which would have me taking 30-35g of creatine a day based on my weight for a loading phase of 5-7 days and then ~5g/day after that. 30-35 seems like a lot, anyone try anything similar to this?
On January 13 2014 16:41 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 10:47 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:On January 11 2014 15:12 Catch wrote:
Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this.
The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.
The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum).
I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field. No "study" will convince me to think otherwise as common sense would tell you that fatty foods and oils will just thicken your blood and are bad for you a long with the fact that foods lower on the food chain are the best for you as they are more pure. Since you say yourself right there that you have no interest in discussing anything here I am going to tell you to stop posting in this forum. If you make another post with radical claims, zero backup, and zero engagement in discussion you will be banned from this forum.
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Yes, I've tried it. I said in the other thread I've heard people taking up to 60g a day. It's obviously easier if you take it in multiple doses. I take 10-15g in a single dose no problem. Plus creatine is dirt cheap.
John Kiefer, the carb backloading guy, says there are benefits to taking high doses of creatine all the time, including that creatine is a myostatin inhibitor.
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On January 14 2014 02:34 IgnE wrote:
Yes, I've tried it. I said in the other thread I've heard people taking up to 60g a day. It's obviously easier if you take it in multiple doses. I take 10-15g in a single dose no problem. Plus creatine is dirt cheap.
John Kiefer, the carb backloading guy, says there are benefits to taking high doses of creatine all the time, including that creatine is a myostatin inhibitor.
Does this still apply when u eat 2 pounds of meat a day?
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On January 14 2014 02:37 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 02:34 IgnE wrote:
Yes, I've tried it. I said in the other thread I've heard people taking up to 60g a day. It's obviously easier if you take it in multiple doses. I take 10-15g in a single dose no problem. Plus creatine is dirt cheap.
John Kiefer, the carb backloading guy, says there are benefits to taking high doses of creatine all the time, including that creatine is a myostatin inhibitor. Does this still apply when u eat 2 pounds of meat a day?
Normal supplementation brings you up to the equivalent of eating 8 pounds of meat a day (from what I heard on an exercise physiology lecture on itunes) so if you're not eating that much you're probably good to start slamming some down
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On January 14 2014 09:33 GuiltyJerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 02:37 GoTuNk! wrote:On January 14 2014 02:34 IgnE wrote:
Yes, I've tried it. I said in the other thread I've heard people taking up to 60g a day. It's obviously easier if you take it in multiple doses. I take 10-15g in a single dose no problem. Plus creatine is dirt cheap.
John Kiefer, the carb backloading guy, says there are benefits to taking high doses of creatine all the time, including that creatine is a myostatin inhibitor. Does this still apply when u eat 2 pounds of meat a day? Normal supplementation brings you up to the equivalent of eating 8 pounds of meat a day (from what I heard on an exercise physiology lecture on itunes) so if you're not eating that much you're probably good to start slamming some down
Wouldn't that amount of protein be unhealthy for you? That's almost 2g of protein per lb (at least, 8 lb of chicken would be for my bodyweight).
Actually I know nothing about creatine and assumed it was for protein. Brb internetting to find out more about it.
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How can you guys not know about creatine? It's like top second supplement behind whey protein.
I eat 2 lbs of meat a day roughly and still take 10-15g of creatine in my pwo shake 5x a week.
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I know of it, and I knew it was immensly popular right behind whey and it's basic purpose, but that was about the limits of my knowledge. I'm not at the point yet where I need to be supplementing so I haven't looked into any of it yet to the point where I could say I know what I'm talking about.
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On January 14 2014 10:45 IgnE wrote:
How can you guys not know about creatine? It's like top second supplement behind whey protein.
I eat 2 lbs of meat a day roughly and still take 10-15g of creatine in my pwo shake 5x a week.
I c, will give it a try then. I always thought creatine was for pencil necks who didn't eat enough meat
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On January 14 2014 10:54 Najda wrote:
I know of it, and I knew it was immensly popular right behind whey and it's basic purpose, but that was about the limits of my knowledge. I'm not at the point yet where I need to be supplementing so I haven't looked into any of it yet to the point where I could say I know what I'm talking about.
Honestly, if you are lifting with a barbell and are serious about it, it doesn't matter if you aren't "huge" yet. Anyone who is squatting and deadlifting more than 2 plates would probably benefit from creatine supplementation. It's dirt cheap, has tons of research, no side effects (other than like cramps if you take a lot of it without water, or if your kidney is diseased), and leads to noticeable improvements in muscle and brain function.
I started taking it when I was 19 and still a small dude.
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I mean I knew of the benefits and what not but I've never really bothered to take it seriously/consistently enough to see benefits from it. I'll give it a try for a few weeks since i've got some lying around and see how i feel.
I've got a bunch of creatine monohydrate and then a pre-mixed creatine glutamine taurine (i think 5g-3g-2g ratio). Are there any benefits to the CGT?
On January 14 2014 09:46 Najda wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 09:33 GuiltyJerk wrote:On January 14 2014 02:37 GoTuNk! wrote:On January 14 2014 02:34 IgnE wrote:
Yes, I've tried it. I said in the other thread I've heard people taking up to 60g a day. It's obviously easier if you take it in multiple doses. I take 10-15g in a single dose no problem. Plus creatine is dirt cheap.
John Kiefer, the carb backloading guy, says there are benefits to taking high doses of creatine all the time, including that creatine is a myostatin inhibitor. Does this still apply when u eat 2 pounds of meat a day? Normal supplementation brings you up to the equivalent of eating 8 pounds of meat a day (from what I heard on an exercise physiology lecture on itunes) so if you're not eating that much you're probably good to start slamming some down Wouldn't that amount of protein be unhealthy for you? That's almost 2g of protein per lb (at least, 8 lb of chicken would be for my bodyweight). Actually I know nothing about creatine and assumed it was for protein. Brb internetting to find out more about it.
See my post on the previous page on protein digestion.
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I take taurine separately as a supplement and glutamine is in whey protein and branched chain aminos that I take. There's nothing special about the mixture, and it's probably just some stupid formula to sell product, but it doesn't hurt either.
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Zurich15366 Posts
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Oh yeah this guy links his stuff on Chemistry subreddit all the time  Some of his posts are pretty informative, all those "scary chemical words" are actually a part of everything that we eat, so that's kinda fun.
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
I have a question on soft drinks. Generaly speaking I don't drink soft drinks like Cola, Pepsi, Sprite, etc. due to high sugar content and CO2. Also, I just don't like the super sweet taste. But recently (about 3 weeks) I've started to consume around 1-2 liters of Schweppes Tonic per week. I really like the bitter taste of it, but it still contains 9,2 gramms of sugar per 100 ml. Is tonic water as unhealthy as, for example, Cola? Should I abandon it before it becomes a habbit?
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On January 22 2014 06:16 IAmWithStupid wrote:
I have a question on soft drinks. Generaly speaking I don't drink soft drinks like Cola, Pepsi, Sprite, etc. due to high sugar content and CO2. Also, I just don't like the super sweet taste. But recently (about 3 weeks) I've started to consume around 1-2 liters of Schweppes Tonic per week. I really like the bitter taste of it, but it still contains 9,2 gramms of sugar per 100 ml. Is tonic water as unhealthy as, for example, Cola? Should I abandon it before it becomes a habbit?
Too much sugar for regular consumption. You could drink it after training though, 2:1 - 3:1 carb/protein is the suggested dosis. High GI carb (sugar) should only be consumed inmediatately postworkout.
Be wary of being addicted to anything though.
Not as bad as regular Cola, but a bad habit
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Is the allowance of high amounts of sugar immediately postworkout why people say chocolate milk is a good postworkout? And is it actually? Or are they just full of bullshit like I'm expecting haha
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On January 22 2014 08:11 autoexec wrote:
Is the allowance of high amounts of sugar immediately postworkout why people say chocolate milk is a good postworkout? And is it actually? Or are they just full of bullshit like I'm expecting haha
Sounds like justification to me.
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I put straight dextrose into my pwo shake. I don't know why you people are hating on sugar.
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