General nutrition recommendations - Page 73

On January 08 2014 15:26 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


It'll put stress on his kidneys.

Lot's of body builders out there have been saying that the protein thing is over hyped.

I don't know why so many people worry about their protein or nutritional intake of fat's, carb's, and protein and have to count out all of the grams and everything.

Most of the best athletes and even power lifters from the past and even to this day just listen to their body and eat regular meals.

You can get huge even on a low protein diet.

I'm sure that most of the huge prison inmates aren't supplementing with protein.

On January 08 2014 15:43 IgnE wrote:


How big are you? Post us some pics of your flexed muscles.

It doesn't put stress on kidneys, except in the tautological way that the kidneys do work. It does not impair kidney function in any way. That is false. You are lying.

Very few bodybuilders out there say that. No large, elite-level bodybuilders say that. You are lying.

Most people cannot get huge on a low protein diet. A few can because they have great genetics. But they would be even more huge on a high-protein diet.

You are factually incorrect on the prison thing.

On January 08 2014 16:22 NukeD wrote:

I dont know man. I just feel and look soooooo much better when I am on a strict protein diet with low carbs. My hair has better quality, my nails have better quality, my skin is cleaner, Im generally more firm, I feel more energeticed and vitalised etc. Thats why I worry about those numbers, I just wont go back to the way I used to be after realising which type of diet fits me the best and what a huge difference it actually makes. I think genes have a lot to do with that like the poster above said.

On January 09 2014 17:36 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


Believe what you want, call me a liar if you want, facts are facts.

Most professional body builders are so big because they take illegal drugs.

Also, there is a ton of evidence showing that a high protein diet can screw up your kidneys and yes, put stress on them.

Even Rich Piano Mr California admits that the protein thing is over hyped and high protein put's stress on the kidneys and look at how blown up he is.

On January 09 2014 17:42 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


Weird, I feel more energized on a high carb diet.

Carb's are the body's most natural form of energy and the more I eat the more energized I feel and you crap most of it out as it's difficult on your body to convert carbs to fat not to mention most high carb foods are loaded with fiber which helps the process of your body getting rid of the carbs your body doesn't need.

I tried eating a low protein diet before but felt tired all of the time and hungry.

On January 09 2014 17:36 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


Believe what you want, call me a liar if you want, facts are facts.

Most professional body builders are so big because they take illegal drugs.

Also, there is a ton of evidence showing that a high protein diet can screw up your kidneys and yes, put stress on them.

Even Rich Piano Mr California admits that the protein thing is over hyped and high protein put's stress on the kidneys and look at how blown up he is.

On January 09 2014 17:51 IgnE wrote:


Of course you did. Low protein diets are utter shit.

On January 10 2014 01:07 decafchicken wrote:


It only strains the kidneys if you have renal disease, in which case DUH.

There is no evidence of protein toxicity due to high protein intakes on kidney function in healthy people. Diets that regularly exceed the recommendations for protein intake have been found to lead to an increased glomerular filtration rate in the kidneys in healthy people. The body adapts to the increase in protein and functions accordingly.Source

I honestly don't care that you're trolling, I just don't want other people to see your bullshit and take it seriously. Go away.

On January 10 2014 11:03 GoTuNk! wrote:
I won't bother, I'm just gonna say strong people eat meat, period. BB fucked up kidneys (which happens to a surprisingly low percentage of them) is because of pushing steroids usage to its limits.

Also, humans were able to develop bigger brains overtime from the calorie/protein/iron/vit B12 excess that occured with the introduction of meat consuption on our earlier ancestor's diet. Further brain development happened with the introduction of cooking, which allowed the downsizing of intestines and assosiated glands, leaving even more spare energy to sustain our resource intensive brains.

No one here advocates a bacon diet. Meat variants (fish included) and eggs (and maybe milk if you can find good natural one) are the basis of the diet; you add salad when you can and carbs as needed depending on workout intensity.

I know you are a troll but I have spare time

On January 10 2014 10:46 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


Bullshit. Show some evidence that high protein does not fuck up your kidneys over time.

You just like to believe in the evidence that shows that what you do (eat a shitty high fat diet cooked meat diet) is healthy just like how religious people will post evidence that their religion is the correct one to make themselves feel better.

You're no different than those people, now please, post some evidence showcasing that eating greasy bacon, eggs, and sausage for breakfast is heart healthy and that a Paleo fad diet is better than eating Vegan and supplementing with B12.

There is a ton of evidence out there showcasing that vegan diets are superior and that the civilizations that ate the least amount of meat lived the longest and even current civilizations that consume only a small amount of meat live longer on average than those that eat more cooked meat.

I'm posting and replying to you so that someone doesn't get the idea that eating high on the food chain and thinks that their unhealthly eating ways (such as eating sausage, bacon, eggs, biscuits, doughnuts, butter, pork, etc) is healthy when it;s actually been proven to cause a ton of degenerative diseases.

Also, eating a high carb diet you're going to end up calorie restricting so you'll live an additional 40-50% longer than those on a standard high fat diet (most calories come from fat on a high calorie diet, hence why you would have to eat a crazy amount of high carb fruits/vegetables to even hit 3-4K calories.)

On January 10 2014 11:03 GoTuNk! wrote:
I won't bother, I'm just gonna say strong people eat meat, period. BB fucked up kidneys (which happens to a surprisingly low percentage of them) is because of pushing steroids usage to its limits.

Also, humans were able to develop bigger brains overtime from the calorie/protein/iron/vit B12 excess that occured with the introduction of meat consuption on our earlier ancestor's diet. Further brain development happened with the introduction of cooking, which allowed the downsizing of intestines and assosiated glands, leaving even more spare energy to sustain our resource intensive brains.

No one here advocates a bacon diet. Meat variants (fish included) and eggs (and maybe milk if you can find good natural one) are the basis of the diet; you add salad when you can and carbs as needed depending on workout intensity.

I know you are a troll but I have spare time

On January 10 2014 11:41 IgnE wrote:


You are the one claiming it harms your kidneys. You are the one with the burden of proof. Show some evidence it harms kidneys. Oh, you don't have any.

On January 09 2014 17:42 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


Weird, I feel more energized on a high carb diet.

Carb's are the body's most natural form of energy and the more I eat the more energized I feel and you crap most of it out as it's difficult on your body to convert carbs to fat not to mention most high carb foods are loaded with fiber which helps the process of your body getting rid of the carbs your body doesn't need.

I tried eating a low protein diet before but felt tired all of the time and hungry.

On January 10 2014 15:11 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


"Burden of proof"...... I didn't know that this was an atheism debate LOL.

There's plenty of proof out there that a high protein diet is harmful for your kidneys. Why do you think that those with kidney problems are advised to stay away from foods high in protein and why do you think Dr's check to see our protein count in our urine.....

Diet's high in protein stress the kidneys out and this is well known, a simple google search by you would show the research and documentation on this. Paleo fad dieters would rather think otherwise because they naturally eat a diet high in protein.

post some evidence showcasing that eating greasy bacon, eggs, and sausage for breakfast is heart healthy and that a Paleo fad diet is better than eating Vegan and supplementing with B12.