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autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
January 21 2014 23:52 GMT
#1501
Not all sugar, I'm just talking about stuff like corn syrup
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 00:15:28
January 22 2014 00:13 GMT
#1502
I remember reading an article recently about how high fructose corn syrup gets a bad reputation for no real reason and has identical chemical makeup to regular sugar. I tried looking for where I read this information and I'll edit it if I can find it, so I have no idea how reputable the information was or if I'm even remembering it right.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 22 2014 03:22 GMT
#1503
On January 22 2014 09:13 Najda wrote:
I remember reading an article recently about how high fructose corn syrup gets a bad reputation for no real reason and has identical chemical makeup to regular sugar. I tried looking for where I read this information and I'll edit it if I can find it, so I have no idea how reputable the information was or if I'm even remembering it right.


If I remember right, It's got a higher percentage of fructose relative to glucose than "normal" sugar, which is the major difference - hence the name.

Fructose is metabolized through a slightly different pathway, with some slightly less desirable side-products. Its negative effects as far as weightlifting are concerned mostly deal with the fact that it doesn't restore muscle glycogen, only liver glycogen, so it's pretty much the most empty calorie you can get. That's really all there is to it.

Again, this is if I'm remembering right... last time I looked this all up was in that 2 year ago period where everything is starting to get a bit hazy.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 04:31:35
January 22 2014 04:31 GMT
#1504
What phyre said. And pretty sure the article you're thinking of was sponsored by corn syrup companies lol. They also had a TV ad campaign going, cause america needs more incentive to consume HFCS T_T
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 22 2014 14:01 GMT
#1505
Yeah it didnt sound right as i was saying it, it may have been normal corn syrup or just propaganda.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5467 Posts
January 24 2014 02:02 GMT
#1506
Alright. So say I wake up and have about 60-70 minutes before I'm at the gym ready to workout. What do you guys say I should eat? I usually drink a protein shake which usually is enough. Sometimes I might have a small (like 3-4 spoonfuls) bowl of rice. This morning I had milk and cereal and it really didn't work out too well.

GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
January 24 2014 02:28 GMT
#1507
I'd recommend a light meal (like a couple sausage links/an egg or two/some bacon and then maybe a piece of fruit or oats or something) if you need food. If I work out early in the morning I just drink a couple cups of coffee and train fasted. I seem to do about as well one way or the other, your mileage may vary. But I'd suggest going with real, food protein/some carbs
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
January 24 2014 02:42 GMT
#1508
Would a small bowl of oatmeal be ok? Maybe try that. Milk and ceral just seems like a no go.
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
January 24 2014 02:46 GMT
#1509
Yeah that should work. Really everyone's pretty unique in this regard, figure out what works for you, but I think oatmeal is really solid for a pre workout snack/meal/whatever you wanna call it
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 24 2014 13:31 GMT
#1510
Just experiment. I had rice chex before working out Monday and it went fine. I would never do that before a 5k though.

I just find it easiest to drink some coffee and have a shake/banana ready for afterwards.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 25 2014 16:34 GMT
#1511
I don't notice any difference between my fasted morning workouts, and my 1300 calories of food + 600 calories of milk "lumberjack breakfast" before a workout honestly. For me, it matters much more if I'm working out 5 or 6 hours after waking up than it does right away.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5467 Posts
January 27 2014 09:24 GMT
#1512
Thanks for the breakfast responses all. I like my protein shake because it has caffeine, it's absorbed quickly (right?) into my body so I don't have to wait to digest very long, and it's not "nothing"; I like having something in my body when I work out, especially since I don't really eat after around 7:00 PM; that's about 14 hours fasted from the night before (with sleeping) which I'd prefer not to do.

phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 30 2014 18:29 GMT
#1513
On January 27 2014 18:24 SoleSteeler wrote:
Thanks for the breakfast responses all. I like my protein shake because it has caffeine, it's absorbed quickly (right?) into my body so I don't have to wait to digest very long, and it's not "nothing"; I like having something in my body when I work out, especially since I don't really eat after around 7:00 PM; that's about 14 hours fasted from the night before (with sleeping) which I'd prefer not to do.



If it's a weigh shake dissolved in water, and you use one scoop it likely takes around 3 hours to be fully digested and absorbed. Much longer if it's casein or you have it in milk.

If you're looking for something that's absorbed quickly before your workout, have bcaa's with some kind of very simple carb (juice, or even just some kind of powder).
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5467 Posts
January 31 2014 04:21 GMT
#1514
I've considered getting some BCAAs for the morning, yeah. Maybe I will try it. I remember reading about that on the leangains website.

It's just regular old whey with water. I definitely don't and will never need a weight gainer shake.

phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 31 2014 22:20 GMT
#1515
On January 31 2014 13:21 SoleSteeler wrote:
I've considered getting some BCAAs for the morning, yeah. Maybe I will try it. I remember reading about that on the leangains website.

It's just regular old whey with water. I definitely don't and will never need a weight gainer shake.



I meant to type "Whey" not "weigh" - I have no idea how fast weight gainer shakes are absorbed, and I'd say it's impossible to predict, considering there is no real standardization to their makeup.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
January 31 2014 23:25 GMT
#1516
Hm so I'm thinking about starting to take whey. I don't get enough calories in each day which is kind of an issue (I get enough for maintenance but not that much of a surplus), and I was thinking about making my shakes into milkshakes to get extra calories + improve taste. Any recommendations for whey that's not too pricey and if this is an advisable idea?
randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 00:58:43
February 01 2014 00:58 GMT
#1517
While he may have spewed mostly crap, he did have at least one point I think everyone should realize.
SjPhotoGrapher wrote:

The foods on the lowest end of the food chain are also the most mineral dense and healthiest foods to eat which are the fruits, nuts, seeds, grains, legumes, etc.

You have to remember, the foods that come directly from earth are of the highest quality so getting your Omega's and CoQ10 a long with other enzymes is much better from vegetables than meat since you're not ingesting all of the waste that the meat has in it


As long as you have the funds and access to a wide variety of fruits/veggies/nuts/grains and can tolerate not eating meat, I'm sure your body would thank you in the long run. This is a general nutrition thread anyway, not everyone here is about body building. I personally try to avoid meat even though it tastes heavenly and so far so good. I've dropped a lot of fat but at the same time continue to do the same amount of cardio and lifts and well, it works for me, maybe others may like non-meat diets more. It's all personal preference on how you want to feel.
Besides, meat acts as a carcinogen (or mutagen, I don't remember which exactly), but so does burnt toast ...

On January 12 2014 16:21 IgnE wrote:
Serious question SJP: would tigers live longer on a plant-based diet too? Wouldn't they be better off with "pure" plant foods that don't have fats or cholesterol?


If tigers could eat almonds.... and a lot of them.

Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
February 01 2014 01:36 GMT
#1518
On January 11 2014 15:12 Catch wrote:
Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this.

The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.

The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum).

I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field.


The problem is most studies are now funded by the food companies........ Real honest right?????
Emperor? Boxer disapproves. He's building bunkers at your mom's house even as you're reading this.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 02:17:13
February 01 2014 02:15 GMT
#1519
On February 01 2014 09:58 randommuch wrote:
While he may have spewed mostly crap, he did have at least one point I think everyone should realize.
Show nested quote +
SjPhotoGrapher wrote:

The foods on the lowest end of the food chain are also the most mineral dense and healthiest foods to eat which are the fruits, nuts, seeds, grains, legumes, etc.

You have to remember, the foods that come directly from earth are of the highest quality so getting your Omega's and CoQ10 a long with other enzymes is much better from vegetables than meat since you're not ingesting all of the waste that the meat has in it


As long as you have the funds and access to a wide variety of fruits/veggies/nuts/grains and can tolerate not eating meat, I'm sure your body would thank you in the long run. This is a general nutrition thread anyway, not everyone here is about body building. I personally try to avoid meat even though it tastes heavenly and so far so good. I've dropped a lot of fat but at the same time continue to do the same amount of cardio and lifts and well, it works for me, maybe others may like non-meat diets more. It's all personal preference on how you want to feel.
Besides, meat acts as a carcinogen (or mutagen, I don't remember which exactly), but so does burnt toast ...

Do you have sources to back that up? There is a lot of evidence in the OP that suggests that eating a diet of non-processed meat in addition to the foods you mentioned is healthier than the same diet without the meat.

On February 01 2014 10:36 XXXSmOke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 15:12 Catch wrote:
Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this.

The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.

The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum).

I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field.


The problem is most studies are now funded by the food companies........ Real honest right?????

That's why he said
The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.
randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
February 01 2014 08:26 GMT
#1520
On February 01 2014 11:15 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 09:58 randommuch wrote:
While he may have spewed mostly crap, he did have at least one point I think everyone should realize.
SjPhotoGrapher wrote:

The foods on the lowest end of the food chain are also the most mineral dense and healthiest foods to eat which are the fruits, nuts, seeds, grains, legumes, etc.

You have to remember, the foods that come directly from earth are of the highest quality so getting your Omega's and CoQ10 a long with other enzymes is much better from vegetables than meat since you're not ingesting all of the waste that the meat has in it


As long as you have the funds and access to a wide variety of fruits/veggies/nuts/grains and can tolerate not eating meat, I'm sure your body would thank you in the long run. This is a general nutrition thread anyway, not everyone here is about body building. I personally try to avoid meat even though it tastes heavenly and so far so good. I've dropped a lot of fat but at the same time continue to do the same amount of cardio and lifts and well, it works for me, maybe others may like non-meat diets more. It's all personal preference on how you want to feel.
Besides, meat acts as a carcinogen (or mutagen, I don't remember which exactly), but so does burnt toast ...

Do you have sources to back that up? There is a lot of evidence in the OP that suggests that eating a diet of non-processed meat in addition to the foods you mentioned is healthier than the same diet without the meat.

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 10:36 XXXSmOke wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:12 Catch wrote:
Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this.

The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.

The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum).

I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field.


The problem is most studies are now funded by the food companies........ Real honest right?????

That's why he said
Show nested quote +
The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully.


If you're referring to the carcinogens in meat I was lookin around on pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15199546
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24168237

As for specifically non-processed meats, my professor was ranting last week about a recent study showing evidence that even non-processed meats aint as great as we thought. I'll see if I can bug her about it and get the site.

I think there's also something about heavy metals building up in animals, particularly the liver, (someone was talking earlier bout eating liver), that can cause toxicity issues in your later years.
Not the U.S. but still, animals have issues getting rid certain things.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1687428512000040

Oh, and the burnt toast thing.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/acrylamide-in-food
Or just google acrylamide.

Cancer and toxicity issues aren't quick killers so in all honesty you should really eat what makes you feel good, sort of the point I was making earlier but I was more speaking out of just personal experience with friends and myself. Some people feel a lot better when they are on non-meat diets .
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
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