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On April 06 2012 02:16 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 01:47 aloT wrote:
Can someone explain to an idiot like myself why a 40g bar of chocolate will make you gain more weight than 300g of broccoli?
Does the actual weight of the food not matter in the slightest? Brocolli is 90% water so 300g of broccoli is about 100 kcal.
The weight of the food doesn't necessarily convert to calories as Sneakyz pointed out. If you're talking more along the lines of why eating dessert means you gain weight and eating the same volume of vegetables means less gain I think the answer lies in the bodies response to sugars which triggers fat storage.
Some real quick google search:
"The fatty acids are then absorbed from the blood into fat cells, muscle cells and liver cells. In these cells, under stimulation by insulin, fatty acids are made into fat molecules and stored as fat droplets."
- http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/human-biology/fat-cell2.htm
"When exposed to insulin, however, the rate of total GLUT4(protein that carries glucose into cel) entry into the cell membrane peaked, quadrupling within three minutes. The researchers saw a dramatic rise in fusion with release — 60 times more often on cells exposed to insulin than on cells not exposed to insulin."
- http://www.nih.gov/news/health/sep2010/nichd-07.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_index
Basically, not a chem or bio buff at all here, but I think eating refined carbs / sugars boosts the amount your body decides to store as fat. Could be way off but I think that's what you're getting at?
After looking all that up found a good explanation I think: http://everydaypaleo.com/2011/10/12/sugar-insulin-resistance-and-fat-loss-by-jason-seib/
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On April 06 2012 01:47 aloT wrote:
Can someone explain to an idiot like myself why a 40g bar of chocolate will make you gain more weight than 300g of broccoli?
Does the actual weight of the food not matter in the slightest?
It's just a case of energy. Think of it in terms of filling your car up with water vs filling it up with petrol. All the food you eat has to be either excreted (i.e. shat or pissed out) or, if it's useful, stored somewhere for future use. 40g of chocolate gets stored more readily than brocolli because it's higher in energy.
To mordek, I wouldn't even worry about the effect of sugars and refined carbs. That just complicates things. Simply put, chocolate has more calories/energy than brocolli, so it gets stored in more deposits in your body.
On April 06 2012 03:04 GuiltyJerk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 02:08 JingleHell wrote:On April 06 2012 01:47 aloT wrote:
Can someone explain to an idiot like myself why a 40g bar of chocolate will make you gain more weight than 300g of broccoli?
Does the actual weight of the food not matter in the slightest? Sure, it matters until you take a shit. If I eat 10 pounds of gravel, how much actual mass will my body gain from it? (Assuming I could survive the process) Although I guess that would be one way to get an "Instant rock hard stomach", at least for a while... I lol'd at this. For real. Well done  Also, how do you guys do warmup sets? I have been breaking up the difference between my work set and the bar into 4 increments and then do 5 reps at each. Since I explained that shitty, here's what I mean: My work set is going to be at 245 pounds, therefore... 245-45(the bar)=200 pounds 200/4=50 (the increments) And the warmup would look like this: 10x45 5x95 5x145 5x195 Then do my work sets 3x5x245 This a good way to break it up or should I have more and smaller increments as I approach higher weights?
Personally, I just do two sets of 5 reps at roughly 2/3rds of my work weight. So if I'm squatting 100kg, then I would do two sets on 65kg. So far it's worked well for me and its quick and easy to do.
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But I would worry about hyperinsulinemia  It's one of the main health reasons to eat paleo and also directly relates to weight gain. Still I wouldn't want to make things complicated, he really only asked for "Does the actual weight of the food not matter in the slightest?" which has been answered
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On April 06 2012 03:04 GuiltyJerk wrote:
Also, how do you guys do warmup sets? I have been breaking up the difference between my work set and the bar into 4 increments and then do 5 reps at each.
Since I explained that shitty, here's what I mean:
My work set is going to be at 245 pounds, therefore...
245-45(the bar)=200 pounds
200/4=50 (the increments)
And the warmup would look like this:
10x45
5x95
5x145
5x195
Then do my work sets 3x5x245
This a good way to break it up or should I have more and smaller increments as I approach higher weights?
I do bar 2x10 then ez stuff. I did a ton of warmups on SS though.
@ 245 my sets would look like this
45x10
45x10
95x10
135x8
185x5
225x3
235x1
245 3x5
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This is an excellent excel spreadsheet that calculates your warm-up weight. I did not make this. Someone made this a long time ago on ironaddicts.com. I've been using this for years and it works great.
iron addicts warm-up spreedsheet caculator
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How do I eat less? I feel stupid asking this question but i'm trying to eat at around a 500 kcal deficit and I just want to eat eat eat. How can I make myself feel full or do I need to just ignore it and learn to live with it?
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On April 06 2012 12:18 7sk wrote:
How do I eat less? I feel stupid asking this question but i'm trying to eat at around a 500 kcal deficit and I just want to eat eat eat. How can I make myself feel full or do I need to just ignore it and learn to live with it?
I have the same kind of black-hole stomach, here are some things that helped for me:
1. Skip breakfast, if you skip breakfast it becomes way easier to eat fewer calories. To fight the hunger in the morning have some caffeine, which acts as an appetite suppressant, and you're good to go till lunch.
2. Eating proteins really helps to satisfy your appetite, chicken breast and pastrami both work really well for me, both being pretty protein rich and light on calories
3. You kinda have to will yourself through it a bit. Whenever I want to reach for food, I ask myself "Am I really hungry?" If the answer is no, I hold off for a while and see what ends up happening. Also having calorie light snack foods like carrots is really helpful
Hope my methods work for you!!
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drink lots of water and distract yourself with work/games/ladies/sports
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Hey everyone, after doing a lot of reading I decided to finally start hitting the gym. So far I've bought and read quite a bit of Starting Strength. The biggest question I have right now is, how in the world do I know if I'm learning to do these lifts properly. I'll be going to the gym by myself and no one else I know is even remotely interested in starting. What I had in mind was just maybe asking some random people I see at the gym but I have no idea how people would respond to that. I don't even know if what I'm saying makes sense because I'm not sure what I'm asking myself. Thanks if anyone can decipher what I'm rambling on about.
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On April 07 2012 15:54 Dromar wrote:
I had a similar problem when I started. The best answer I can give is that you should read up on proper form for the lift you're trying to do, watch youtube videos ("proper deadlift form," etc.), imagine the process of doing the lifts properly, and then try it out with light weight to make sure you've got it. Here's some info I've used:
Thanks for the links, the videos in particular were very helpful. So far I've read the squat and bench section in Starting Strength. I'll most likely read/skim the deadlift section before I try hitting the gym. The main problem I was worried about was even though I can see the form in my head, I have no idea if I would do it properly during the actual lift. I plan to spend at least a week or so working with the bar only so I can focus on form and what not.
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I'm just about to start a simple bodyweight workout at home, the idea being to get back some of the strength I had when I was younger as currently I'm weak as shit. I've been eating clean for a while now and running too.
I found a simple pull-up, push-up, sit-up and squat routine that looks alright but like a lot of other people, I have no where to do pull ups at home. I have looked all over the house and every door frame is really weak and I'm sure it wouldn't last much more than a day. Doors themselves move and the only other option is curtain rails which are even weaker. The nearest playground has no monkey bars and the rest of the bars are either too thin or too fat. Beside, I'd feel like a creep going up there to do pull ups.
So basically, is there a good door-way bar I can get? I'd prefer one without screws but if it's unavoidable then I guess that's fine. As I said, my door frames feel weak so I'm really reluctant to try it but I know if I can do this excercise at home I am a lot more likely to get it done frequently and properly. I guess I'd also like some feedback from other people with weak door-frames to make sure it will be ok.
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On April 08 2012 20:30 Flicky wrote:
I'm just about to start a simple bodyweight workout at home, the idea being to get back some of the strength I had when I was younger as currently I'm weak as shit. I've been eating clean for a while now and running too.
I found a simple pull-up, push-up, sit-up and squat routine that looks alright but like a lot of other people, I have no where to do pull ups at home. I have looked all over the house and every door frame is really weak and I'm sure it wouldn't last much more than a day. Doors themselves move and the only other option is curtain rails which are even weaker. The nearest playground has no monkey bars and the rest of the bars are either too thin or too fat. Beside, I'd feel like a creep going up there to do pull ups.
So basically, is there a good door-way bar I can get? I'd prefer one without screws but if it's unavoidable then I guess that's fine. As I said, my door frames feel weak so I'm really reluctant to try it but I know if I can do this excercise at home I am a lot more likely to get it done frequently and properly. I guess I'd also like some feedback from other people with weak door-frames to make sure it will be ok.
I have the same problem I do my pullups in my squat rack, which is really unhandy because it's not tall at all.
About bodyweight routines I would suggest you going into the bodyweight training thread. Eshlow is a godsent when it comes to bodyweight training.
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On April 07 2012 16:08 Demoninja wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 15:54 Dromar wrote:
I had a similar problem when I started. The best answer I can give is that you should read up on proper form for the lift you're trying to do, watch youtube videos ("proper deadlift form," etc.), imagine the process of doing the lifts properly, and then try it out with light weight to make sure you've got it. Here's some info I've used:
Thanks for the links, the videos in particular were very helpful. So far I've read the squat and bench section in Starting Strength. I'll most likely read/skim the deadlift section before I try hitting the gym. The main problem I was worried about was even though I can see the form in my head, I have no idea if I would do it properly during the actual lift. I plan to spend at least a week or so working with the bar only so I can focus on form and what not.
You can also ask some random person (or convince a friend to come just to do this) and have them video your lifts. Post to youtube and then have people here critique
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This is probably a bizarre question. I'm currently on prednisone for my Crohn's disease, it tried to flare, and it got prescribed to get it under control. I've always heard that that type of steroid doesn't help you gain weight in any useful way, but I've gained 5 pounds in the past week, despite just having started on a healthy diet and just starting to get back in shape with some basic body weight exercises. Considering my Crohn's usually makes me lose weight, this seems a bit off.
So, have I always heard wrong about Prednisone? Or is it just the diet and exercise doing it?
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On April 09 2012 09:23 JingleHell wrote:
This is probably a bizarre question. I'm currently on prednisone for my Crohn's disease, it tried to flare, and it got prescribed to get it under control. I've always heard that that type of steroid doesn't help you gain weight in any useful way, but I've gained 5 pounds in the past week, despite just having started on a healthy diet and just starting to get back in shape with some basic body weight exercises. Considering my Crohn's usually makes me lose weight, this seems a bit off.
So, have I always heard wrong about Prednisone? Or is it just the diet and exercise doing it?
Don't know if this is the right place for your question but I can probably answer it to some extent. I have severe eczema so I have been on prednisone multiple times. The most noticeable side effect of prednisone for me was weight gain. when I was on prednisone there was certainly more fact on my face, arms and what not. I'm not a doctor so I don't know if it's normal but it certainly happened with me.
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On April 09 2012 09:59 Demoninja wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 09:23 JingleHell wrote:
This is probably a bizarre question. I'm currently on prednisone for my Crohn's disease, it tried to flare, and it got prescribed to get it under control. I've always heard that that type of steroid doesn't help you gain weight in any useful way, but I've gained 5 pounds in the past week, despite just having started on a healthy diet and just starting to get back in shape with some basic body weight exercises. Considering my Crohn's usually makes me lose weight, this seems a bit off.
So, have I always heard wrong about Prednisone? Or is it just the diet and exercise doing it? Don't know if this is the right place for your question but I can probably answer it to some extent. I have severe eczema so I have been on prednisone multiple times. The most noticeable side effect of prednisone for me was weight gain. when I was on prednisone there was certainly more fact on my face, arms and what not. I'm not a doctor so I don't know if it's normal but it certainly happened with me.
Well, yeah, I'm used to picking up some fluff from prednisone, that's happened before. But this time, the spots I usually grab water weight on it aren't getting puffy, so it seems like I'm just picking up healthy mass at a bizarre rate.
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Well prednisolon doesn't have any anabolic steroid capabilities, so it does not act like one. In your case, just be happy with the gains i guess.
Gaining water weight is fairly common under steroid treatment.
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Shiiiiit so for a few weeks I'm only going to have access to some sort of weird adjustable adjustable bench to OH machine (wtf) and a weird pulldown machine. Max dumbbell weights are 50lbs. What do I do T_T
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I'd do some throws with the dumbbells (ie. shotput style), lots of jumping, pullups, sprints and some bodyweight progressions.
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