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guyabs
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines103 Posts
November 21 2011 12:10 GMT
#13681
On November 21 2011 21:07 Zafrumi wrote:
good prepare for your life to become way more awesome than you could possibly imagine!!

Wow man, i really cant believe on how excited that line made me. Need to start looking for a good gym!
emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
November 21 2011 12:12 GMT
#13682
On November 21 2011 20:57 glurio wrote:


sick physique.


I dunno, I get more kick out of skinny guys powercleaning double their weight. But that's just me
Grubby - SaSe - Oz - Hero
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
November 21 2011 12:59 GMT
#13683
On November 21 2011 20:08 guyabs wrote:
Hey ive read the SS and im really interested in giving it a try. I'm looking for advice from you guys. I'm 18yrs old, 5'4 and weighs 65kgs or 141lbs. Basically, i think i got the right weight for my height. The problem is there is just too much fat on my belly and my chest(I got man boobs).Should I start doing a SS-based traing?. In fitness, i think exceed an average person?(I dont really know) Just plainly basing it on how many pushups i can do on a set time. Currently, Im lifting dumbbells in my home, doing pushups and runs.

Im currently looking for a good gym to start my SS-based training. Im not really sure if i can do the paleo diet but im gonna try. Can you guys give me advice on what weight should i lift on the gym and also a good program. Im a "Noob" on gym, your advices would really be helpful Thanks in advance guys.


Do SS, and go here http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki for questions.

The link that says "first workout" will help you find where your starting weights are, and don't be discouraged if you're only benching the bar or something!
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 14:15:41
November 21 2011 14:09 GMT
#13684
Or you could do a Stronglifts approach and start with an empty bar on all lifts except DL and maybe Powerclean

Edit: Or maybe you should start with an empty bar when doing power cleans as well lol


On November 21 2011 20:57 glurio wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rjMy64cvyE

sick physique.

God damn their lats, it's like they have wings O.o
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
November 21 2011 14:23 GMT
#13685
How are they so big relative to their strength, though? Is it just supplements? Really don't think 140kg bench press with someone touching the bar is impressive; plenty of guys at my gym that can do the same.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15343 Posts
November 21 2011 15:05 GMT
#13686
Does it matter in any way what kind of bar I am using as long as I adjust the load? Currently going to two different gyms and they have 10, 16, and 20 kg bars. The lighter ones are shorter, but at least for squats I have a very narrow grip anyway.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 21 2011 15:20 GMT
#13687
id say it only matters if it affects you in any way, you wanna be perfectly comfortable with what youre doing and some people might not be if they are doing something slightly different 50% of the time . like if you are anxious and OCD then i would avoid switching bars all the time :/
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 21 2011 16:17 GMT
#13688
I wish I was as big and ripped as those black guys in the video above. Is it even possible without steroids?
I <3 Plexa.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
November 21 2011 16:24 GMT
#13689
impossible is nothing
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 16:48:46
November 21 2011 16:47 GMT
#13690
Hey guys,

I'm happy to announce that the book I've been working on is complete and available on Amazon!

Purchase on Amazon

Description of the book:

Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength is a comprehensive guide to the most overlooked, yet most powerful elements of strength training.

In this book, Steven Low takes the reader on a journey through logically and systematically constructing a strength oriented bodyweight workout routine. With a highly systematic and scientific approach, Steven delves into the exercise physiology behind strength training and how to adequately prepare the body for the rigors of bodyweight training. Using the same rigor and attention to detail, Overcoming Gravity also includes recommendations for all bodyweight athletes concerning health and injury management. Unlike other books on this topic, it provides extremely comprehensive sample programming to assist in the design of a well-balanced routine, including information about the proper execution of the exercises and techniques.

If you prefer your books on fitness and health to include data, science and effective recommendations, then Overcoming Gravity is an ideal addition to your library.


Table of Contents and additional information.

Feel free to ask me any questions.


FWIW, should I start a bodyweight training topic or just have stuff in here?

I feel like not many people besides me are interested in it to a significant degree.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#13691
Congratulations again Eshlow!
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 16:55:24
November 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#13692
I'm very disappointed and feeling like something is wrong with my legs hehe (my bodyweight is 75-76kg)

I started SS on October 13 and started Squatting 3x5 60kg and lifting 50kg at deadlifting. Three workouts after my start, I was at 66kg when I felt some pain under my butt, in the right leg. I went to a doctor and discovered it was an inflammation in my sciatic nerve (sciatalgia). I stopped exercising my legs for 10 days and deloaded all the way back to 50kg -it felt very light, obviously.

During that time, I did only one deadlift, because I felt some back pain after a long day seating in front of the computer (I have a problem that goes all the way back in my lower back, it was not related to the deadlift).

Okay, so my disappointment is based on the following. I currently lift:
Bench press: 3x5 68kg (started at 60kg, worked up to 68kg, deloaded to 60kg after deloading squatting, didn't want to stretch the gap)
Squat: 3x5 64kg (started at 60kg, worked up to 66kg, deloaded to 50kg after sciatalgia)
Deadlift: 3x5 58kg (started at 50kg, stopped exercising for 10 days)
Military Press: 3x5 34kg (30kg)
Chin up: 12 rep (PR) (7rm)
Pull up: 11 rep (PR) (6rm)

Deadlifting doesn't feel hard to me. I get tired from the exercise, but I feel I can continue adding weight every workout for a long time. I don't want to rush it because I've never worked my lower back before, so I don't want to risk an injury because it's too heavy for my body. I add 4kg every workout.

Now, Squatting is killing me. I still feel I can lift more, but not much more, and every single set is a huge struggle. Based on my bench press, I was under the impression I'd be able to add weight to squatting for a long time without getting bothered. I see a lot of people squatting double the weight the lift when bench pressing, so I thought I'd be able to steadily add weight and strength my legs until I was getting close to that 'double' number. Also, the fact that its still 10kg below my body weight and it's already a struggle to finish bothers me.

Should I be worried about that?
For the Swarm!
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 16:56:30
November 21 2011 16:55 GMT
#13693
Personally I would say yes because I'm getting near 2x body weight squat at 5x5. I don't think it's normal to be able to bench more then squat/deadlift but that's just my opinion.

On November 22 2011 01:24 Zafrumi wrote:
impossible is nothing

Your right dammit, IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING!
I <3 Plexa.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
November 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#13694
On November 21 2011 23:23 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
How are they so big relative to their strength, though? Is it just supplements? Really don't think 140kg bench press with someone touching the bar is impressive; plenty of guys at my gym that can do the same.


Training for hypertrophy and training for strength are just two different methods.
And yeah 140kg incline bench is damn impressive if you ask me. Never seen anyone incline bench 100kg at my gym.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
November 21 2011 17:16 GMT
#13695
On November 22 2011 01:17 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I wish I was as big and ripped as those black guys in the video above. Is it even possible without steroids?


No, not possible. Look at Layne Norton, natural pro, he might be achievable natural.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#13696
On November 22 2011 02:16 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 01:17 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I wish I was as big and ripped as those black guys in the video above. Is it even possible without steroids?


No, not possible. Look at Layne Norton, natural pro, he might be achievable natural.
Just checked him out and he's very impressive, wouldn't mind looking something like that!
I <3 Plexa.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 21 2011 17:43 GMT
#13697
On November 22 2011 01:55 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Personally I would say yes because I'm getting near 2x body weight squat at 5x5. I don't think it's normal to be able to bench more then squat/deadlift but that's just my opinion.

Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 01:24 Zafrumi wrote:
impossible is nothing

Your right dammit, IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING!


personally i would say stop worrying about it , stop thinking about "where you are" and stop being results orientated. you are at the very beginning of your training and are an individual. it messes with your head a bit to see people here with such awesome results. personally i am still squatting less than i bench and ive been at it for freakin ages (even tho my training has been pretty shit overall ive still put in a lot of effort from a certain perspective). when you are benching 100kg and squatting 60kg thats when id start to scratch my head, otherwise take a chill pill and make sure you never miss a session because that is really the one and only thing you should ever worry about
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
November 21 2011 18:00 GMT
#13698
Congratulations eshlow. Writing a book surely ain't easy I hope you sell a good bunch of copies.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
November 21 2011 18:19 GMT
#13699
On November 22 2011 01:51 Raidern wrote:
I'm very disappointed and feeling like something is wrong with my legs hehe (my bodyweight is 75-76kg)

I started SS on October 13 and started Squatting 3x5 60kg and lifting 50kg at deadlifting. Three workouts after my start, I was at 66kg when I felt some pain under my butt, in the right leg. I went to a doctor and discovered it was an inflammation in my sciatic nerve (sciatalgia). I stopped exercising my legs for 10 days and deloaded all the way back to 50kg -it felt very light, obviously.

During that time, I did only one deadlift, because I felt some back pain after a long day seating in front of the computer (I have a problem that goes all the way back in my lower back, it was not related to the deadlift).

Okay, so my disappointment is based on the following. I currently lift:
Bench press: 3x5 68kg (started at 60kg, worked up to 68kg, deloaded to 60kg after deloading squatting, didn't want to stretch the gap)
Squat: 3x5 64kg (started at 60kg, worked up to 66kg, deloaded to 50kg after sciatalgia)
Deadlift: 3x5 58kg (started at 50kg, stopped exercising for 10 days)
Military Press: 3x5 34kg (30kg)
Chin up: 12 rep (PR) (7rm)
Pull up: 11 rep (PR) (6rm)

Deadlifting doesn't feel hard to me. I get tired from the exercise, but I feel I can continue adding weight every workout for a long time. I don't want to rush it because I've never worked my lower back before, so I don't want to risk an injury because it's too heavy for my body. I add 4kg every workout.

Now, Squatting is killing me. I still feel I can lift more, but not much more, and every single set is a huge struggle. Based on my bench press, I was under the impression I'd be able to add weight to squatting for a long time without getting bothered. I see a lot of people squatting double the weight the lift when bench pressing, so I thought I'd be able to steadily add weight and strength my legs until I was getting close to that 'double' number. Also, the fact that its still 10kg below my body weight and it's already a struggle to finish bothers me.

Should I be worried about that?


dont compare your squat to your bench yet, its still way too early. and dont get too fixated on that "double number" either.

all your issues can be solved quite easily: eat more.

also: you only deadlift one set of 5 on SS.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
4thHatchery
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Finland125 Posts
November 21 2011 18:30 GMT
#13700
On November 22 2011 01:47 eshlow wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm happy to announce that the book I've been working on is complete and available on Amazon!

Purchase on Amazon

Description of the book:

Show nested quote +
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength is a comprehensive guide to the most overlooked, yet most powerful elements of strength training.

In this book, Steven Low takes the reader on a journey through logically and systematically constructing a strength oriented bodyweight workout routine. With a highly systematic and scientific approach, Steven delves into the exercise physiology behind strength training and how to adequately prepare the body for the rigors of bodyweight training. Using the same rigor and attention to detail, Overcoming Gravity also includes recommendations for all bodyweight athletes concerning health and injury management. Unlike other books on this topic, it provides extremely comprehensive sample programming to assist in the design of a well-balanced routine, including information about the proper execution of the exercises and techniques.

If you prefer your books on fitness and health to include data, science and effective recommendations, then Overcoming Gravity is an ideal addition to your library.


Table of Contents and additional information.

Feel free to ask me any questions.


FWIW, should I start a bodyweight training topic or just have stuff in here?

I feel like not many people besides me are interested in it to a significant degree.

Awesome, just ordered it. Should arrive for christmas.
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