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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
October 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#12801
On October 14 2011 16:11 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 15:57 jjhchsc2 wrote:
what was the meal?
what was the fluid?

how long has it been?

chicken, eggs, milk, and rice. And water.
Now 7 hours.


you lactose intolerant?
might cause the milk to stuff up your digestive system maybe
7 hours???? holy crap
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Autofire2
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Pakistan290 Posts
October 14 2011 09:39 GMT
#12802
Thanks guys!

Cheers
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 14 2011 11:20 GMT
#12803
On October 14 2011 14:24 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 20:21 emperorchampion wrote:
On October 13 2011 12:27 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On October 13 2011 09:04 MeShiet wrote:
One little thing I also wanted to point out on your bench press is that I see your head come off the bench, I do believe I've heard that can cause neck pain but if someone wants to clarify that I'd be more than willing to listen.


Starting Strength says to keep your head an inch off the bench I believe.

Thanks for the comments guys. I'll work on all those things.


No it doesn't, keep it on the bench.

Edit: To expand on this, because you don't want to drill your head into the bench either, I think he recommends thinking of keeping your head off the bench as a cue to combat this-- but you don't actually want to keep it off.



Page 90:
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The function of the neck muscles is to maintain head position, and to protect the cervical
spine during the loading of the chest and upper back as the bar comes down on the chest. As
such, the neck muscles work isometrically to maintain position, in a function similar to that of the
lower back muscles during the deadlift. But unlike the back muscles, they should not transfer
power along the neck to help with the lift. In other words, you do not use your head to bench
press. Do not push jour head into the bench. This is an excellent way to injure your neck. You need to learn how to tighten up your neck without pushing on the bench with the back of your head.
As a practical matter, this involves holding your head about a half-inch off the bench during the
rep. If your head is held off the bench your neck muscles are tight.
It is tempting to use the neck to push the bench, as it adds contracted muscle and tightness to the upper back area, but it is too dangerous a habit to let become established.


In other words, the important part is keeping your neck muscles tight without drilling your head into the bench. If you can do this with your head touching the bench, great, but keeping it half an inch in the air is acceptable too.

I've had neck pain in the past from pushing my head into the bench, but no pain so far when keeping it in the air a bit. Seems like one of those "do what works best for you" situations.


Hmm, the more you know (or less you forget...).
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 14 2011 12:26 GMT
#12804
On October 14 2011 14:50 Release wrote:
Today, i ate a 1500 Calorie meal, with about 2 liters of fluids and i haven't peed yet. I feel terribly bloated and thirsty, but i feel like if i drink any more water, i'll vomit. What's stopping me from releasing bodily fluids?


I would contact a doctor about that or go to the ER.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
October 14 2011 12:45 GMT
#12805
On October 14 2011 14:50 Release wrote:
Today, i ate a 1500 Calorie meal, with about 2 liters of fluids and i haven't peed yet. I feel terribly bloated and thirsty, but i feel like if i drink any more water, i'll vomit. What's stopping me from releasing bodily fluids?


this may be in bad taste since this guy seems to be in a pretty bad situation, but anyone else amused by the irony in his screenname and his problem?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 14 2011 12:48 GMT
#12806
Terrible hangover, 4 hours of sleep, long work hours

fucking went to the gym anyway, so glad I went, it actually made me feel a lot better.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
October 14 2011 12:54 GMT
#12807
On October 14 2011 21:45 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 14:50 Release wrote:
Today, i ate a 1500 Calorie meal, with about 2 liters of fluids and i haven't peed yet. I feel terribly bloated and thirsty, but i feel like if i drink any more water, i'll vomit. What's stopping me from releasing bodily fluids?


this may be in bad taste since this guy seems to be in a pretty bad situation, but anyone else amused by the irony in his screenname and his problem?

Oh god didn't even notice.

I would suggest you to go to a professional.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 15:53:27
October 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#12808
Squat: 150kg 8-8-8
Dips: BW 2-2-3-2-0
Deadlift: 200kg x 5;170x 3-3-3

Finally after 4 weeks a good Deadlift workout again. During the last 6 weeks I haven't come closer to the desired 250kg, but in the same time I have lost 9kg BW, so I guess I should be satisfied. And after like 6 years I can do bodyweight-Dips again (at 142kg BW). Fat gymnasts ftw
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
October 14 2011 15:38 GMT
#12809
I'm a beginner. I used to have a schedule of A, B, C and train 4-5 times a week. It was mostly isolations with some composites exercises, with 4 sets of 10 legs and 4 sets of 8 repetitions for everything else.

Then LiquidMeat showed me Leangains and I read some pages on Starting Strength and decided to give it a try. My first session took place yesterday, it went like this:

I'm 178cm and 75kg

Squat: 1x5 60kg, 2x5 70kg
Bench press: 1x5 70kg, 2x5 72kg
Assisted Chin-ups (Smith Machine): 10R, 8R, 7R, all of them to failure.

I left the place exhausted and my arms, especially forearms, were bulked up and heavy. My legs hurt a bit too. I came close to failure in the final sets of Squat and Bench Press, so I think that's what I can handle for now, although I'll obviously slowly increase the weight.

BTW, I'm not far from what I'm looking for. I don't intend to get super ripped (like some of the clients of the leangains guy). So my question is, what should I do with my training to maintain my gains after I hit my goal? Stop increasing weight to the exercises? Keep increasing weight, but slowly? Change exercises?
For the Swarm!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 23:13:54
October 14 2011 16:12 GMT
#12810
On October 15 2011 00:38 Raidern wrote:
I'm a beginner. I used to have a schedule of A, B, C and train 4-5 times a week. It was mostly isolations with some composites exercises, with 4 sets of 10 legs and 4 sets of 8 repetitions for everything else.

Then LiquidMeat showed me Leangains and I read some pages on Starting Strength and decided to give it a try. My first session took place yesterday, it went like this:

I'm 178cm and 75kg

Squat: 1x5 60kg, 2x5 70kg
Bench press: 1x5 70kg, 2x5 72kg
Assisted Chin-ups (Smith Machine): 10R, 8R, 7R, all of them to failure.

I left the place exhausted and my arms, especially forearms, were bulked up and heavy. My legs hurt a bit too. I came close to failure in the final sets of Squat and Bench Press, so I think that's what I can handle for now, although I'll obviously slowly increase the weight.

BTW, I'm not far from what I'm looking for. I don't intend to get super ripped (like some of the clients of the leangains guy). So my question is, what should I do with my training to maintain my gains after I hit my goal? Stop increasing weight to the exercises? Keep increasing weight, but slowly? Change exercises?


If you're doing Starting Strength, you want to start low at about 60% of max intensity and make linear gains every workout until you no longer can.

After that you need to start programming your workouts because your recovery period will be longer than the interval between workouts. This period is done by weekly increases, instead of from workout to workout. There are a bunch of program in the Starting Strength wiki, or you can get Practical Programming by Rippetoe.
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
October 14 2011 16:44 GMT
#12811
God, i'm so tired of not getting enough sleep lately.

Lately, all my sessions in the gym have felt amazing and i'm pretty sure i'm eating well enough but i usually only get about 6-7hours sleep every night which sucks. It somehow feels like i'm wasting precious free time by going to bed earlier so i more or less force myself to stay up, even if i'm not doing anything! so stupid. Hopefully i can start getting some decent sleep again because other than that i think i'm doing pretty good with my diet and workout.
We make signature, then defense it.
Guaska
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil12 Posts
October 14 2011 16:44 GMT
#12812
On October 15 2011 00:38 Raidern wrote:
I'm a beginner. I used to have a schedule of A, B, C and train 4-5 times a week. It was mostly isolations with some composites exercises, with 4 sets of 10 legs and 4 sets of 8 repetitions for everything else.

Then LiquidMeat showed me Leangains and I read some pages on Starting Strength and decided to give it a try. My first session took place yesterday, it went like this:

I'm 178cm and 75kg

Squat: 1x5 60kg, 2x5 70kg
Bench press: 1x5 70kg, 2x5 72kg
Assisted Chin-ups (Smith Machine): 10R, 8R, 7R, all of them to failure.

I left the place exhausted and my arms, especially forearms, were bulked up and heavy. My legs hurt a bit too. I came close to failure in the final sets of Squat and Bench Press, so I think that's what I can handle for now, although I'll obviously slowly increase the weight.

BTW, I'm not far from what I'm looking for. I don't intend to get super ripped (like some of the clients of the leangains guy). So my question is, what should I do with my training to maintain my gains after I hit my goal? Stop increasing weight to the exercises? Keep increasing weight, but slowly? Change exercises?


Well, if you don't want to get a lot bigger, after you hit your goal you could eat less. You won't progress as fast on your load increase and shouldn't gain a lot of weight.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 14 2011 17:52 GMT
#12813
On October 15 2011 01:44 grobo wrote:
God, i'm so tired of not getting enough sleep lately.

Lately, all my sessions in the gym have felt amazing and i'm pretty sure i'm eating well enough but i usually only get about 6-7hours sleep every night which sucks. It somehow feels like i'm wasting precious free time by going to bed earlier so i more or less force myself to stay up, even if i'm not doing anything! so stupid. Hopefully i can start getting some decent sleep again because other than that i think i'm doing pretty good with my diet and workout.
I have the exact-same problem!
I <3 Plexa.
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
October 14 2011 19:34 GMT
#12814
Failed 67,5kg bench again today; does that mean I reset to 60, 62,5 or 65kg's on bench? Failed it three times in a row now
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 14 2011 19:36 GMT
#12815
On October 15 2011 04:34 BouBou.865 wrote:
Failed 67,5kg bench again today; does that mean I reset to 60, 62,5 or 65kg's on bench? Failed it three times in a row now
I'm pretty sure you have to go down 10% which is 59-60kg.
I <3 Plexa.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
October 14 2011 23:10 GMT
#12816
On October 15 2011 04:36 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:34 BouBou.865 wrote:
Failed 67,5kg bench again today; does that mean I reset to 60, 62,5 or 65kg's on bench? Failed it three times in a row now
I'm pretty sure you have to go down 10% which is 59-60kg.


I don't like this guideline at all, it provides vastly different results depending on what weights you're lifting and how much your increases are.
Reset 2 weeks' worth.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 14 2011 23:19 GMT
#12817
On October 15 2011 00:05 Malinor wrote:
Squat: 150kg 8-8-8
Dips: BW 2-2-3-2-0
Deadlift: 200kg x 5;170x 3-3-3

Finally after 4 weeks a good Deadlift workout again. During the last 6 weeks I haven't come closer to the desired 250kg, but in the same time I have lost 9kg BW, so I guess I should be satisfied. And after like 6 years I can do bodyweight-Dips again (at 142kg BW). Fat gymnasts ftw



ffuuuuuuuu i couldn't imagine doing dips with 45kgs on me...gj man!
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
RemedySC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada176 Posts
October 14 2011 23:21 GMT
#12818
Finally got a new Squat PR, didn't have too much trouble either.

Try for 210lbs next time, should smash it!

Squat: 205lbs 3x5
Bench: 135lbs 5-5-4
Pull-ups: 8-6-5
Bent-over row: 95lbs 3x5
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#12819
Squat: 150kg x2x3
Bench: 92,5kgx3 , 97,5kgx3, 102.5kgx3, 107.5kgx1

Apparently my uni gym got the shittiest bar the could cause it was bent with 150kg on the rack, and even more on my back according to my friend.
Gives me a new goal for next year: Ruin them deadlifting so they have to purchase replacements from me
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 14 2011 23:47 GMT
#12820
On October 15 2011 08:31 GoTuNk! wrote:
Squat: 150kg x2x3
Bench: 92,5kgx3 , 97,5kgx3, 102.5kgx3, 107.5kgx1

Apparently my uni gym got the shittiest bar the could cause it was bent with 150kg on the rack, and even more on my back according to my friend.
Gives me a new goal for next year: Ruin them deadlifting so they have to purchase replacements from me


There's one good Oly bar at my Uni gym, and that's on the oly platform. The guys who actually clean and snatch try our best to make sure it never leaves - and if it does, it doesn't go further than the squat racks in front of the platform.

Other than that, we have a half dozen old oly bars that are bent as hell (seriously, I've seen maybe two people capable of squatting or deadlifting enough weight to bend a bar, in three years here. How does this happen?) and a dozen of those thicker, shorter 55 lb bars that were purchased more recently - probably under the assumption they would last longer. They last just fine, but I CANNOT lift anything with them, they screw me up on every single lift. Most guys wait around for a bench - I wait around for the bar that you're benching with. True story =(

Also, @decaf where is the rugby thread??
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