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On September 01 2011 09:05 Sinep wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 05:20 exShikari wrote:On August 31 2011 22:36 Sinep wrote:On August 31 2011 17:44 exShikari wrote:On August 31 2011 16:41 Sinep wrote:On August 31 2011 15:12 exShikari wrote:On August 30 2011 22:34 Mereel wrote:
hi guys,
i try to lose some weight because im not happy in my current situation.
i read the opening post about cardio but it seems not the right way to lose weight. it focus mainly on nutrition.
and there is the problem. i dont really know when to eat what to lose weight. i know the general rule is less carb more protein. i tried that now for some days and its really hard to find good compensators for the heavy carb amount i eat before.
what im currently eating:
breakfast: muesli with fruits (oat flakes+dried berrys, no sugar)
Inbetween: maybe some bread...dont know, thats the hardest part^^
Lunch: something with low carb, mostly chicken with vegetables or something along the line
Inbetween: salad with ewe's cheese, paprika and yogurt (i dont like oil and vinegar dressing)
Dinner: no dinner, maybe some lowfat quark or vegetables
not sure if sleep time or general eating time plays a role in losing weight but it definitely not shows any result till now.
+ i do half an hour cardio training on my homebike.
i try to lose at least 3 kilos, from 63 to 60
The amount of food you eat isn't as important as what you're actually eating. If you eat too little you're body is going to conserve that energy ie turn it to fat. Go for wholemeal pasta/rice over white, and same with bread go for multigrain over white. If you don't already, start using low-fat milks and yoghurts too. If you want to snack on something between meals have some fruit or a handful of nuts. You shouldn't be skipping dinner, eating regular smaller meals is better than having two large ones a day. Aim to have at least two cups of greens a day, and make sure to drinky plenty of water, about 2L/day. Also sleep does play a factor, you should try and get seven hours a night. Eating times don't matter really as long as you keep a routine. Hell, I have breakfast at 9pm, lunch at 3am and dinner at 6am. The joys of night shift haha Hope this helps  The amount of food is the only important thing. If you eat too low calories, the only thing that happens is that your weight loss will be a higher % of muscle: fat lost. Eating only 300 kcal a day will absolutely not be stored as fat, that's a bullshit myth that's been clinically disproved. "Regular smaller meals" is also bullshit. It doesn't matter how you eat the calories, it has no effect on your metabolism either way. Do whatever works for you. I also believe that sleep is completely irrelevant to weight loss. Basically, it's kcal in vs kcal out, regardless of how you sleep. Obviously you need sleep for other reasons, but I don't think there's any need to stress it for weight loss reasons. @Mereel. If I were you, I would skip the breakfast completely and make all your meals some type of meat or other good protein source. Drop the cereal and bread for weight loss. Your lunch is a good example of the kind of thing you should be eating more of. What I mean by the amount of food is more what is in it, not the physical size of the meals. You could have three meal of filler crap, or you could have one balanced meal that will provide the same nutrients. Regular meals isn't bullshit either. True, it doesn't matter really if you eat two large or six small meals a day for your overall caloric intake and doesn't effect your metabolism too much, but if you are eating regularly through the day you're less likely to eat other snacks/too much when you do decide to eat. Also breakfast is the worst meal to skimp on. High fibre meals will help you lose weight, that's why I suggest wholemeal pasta and bread. White pasta IS bad for weight loss, but high fibre foods like vegetables are not. Telling him to not eat carbs is stupid, the best way to lose weight is to have a balanced diet and exercise regularly. Which is why sleeping is important also, nobody feels like exercising when they've had inadequate sleep. Weight loss isn't about nutrients. It's about calories. He's not asking how to be healthy, he's asking how to lose weight. Breakfast is the best meal to skip for weight loss (and there's a remarkable amount of clinical evidence that points towards health as well). High fibre meals won't help you lose weight directly. If you ate the same kcal amount of whole grain pasta as you did of white pasta, there would be no difference in weight loss. A calorie is a calorie for weight loss, regardless of whatever nutrients may be found in it. Your idea of "having a balanced diet and exercising regularly" is a great way as a lifestyle to live as a healthy person and maintain a weight perhaps, but weight loss needs more than that. For weight loss, if your calories are on point then you don't even need to lift a finger, exercise isn't required although it can be a catalyst in the process. I don't know what kind of experience you have in dieting, but some of the things you are saying definitively do not have fat loss in mind. Are you fucking serious? You need to be healthy to lose weight. That should go without saying. Wholemeal is unbelievably better for you than white pasta/bread, yes I do mean for fat loss. Most of the carbs in white pasta are high GI, and holy shit guess what? Insulin spikes, so the body slows its metabolism = turns that energy to fat. Wholemeal is low GI so you don't have that problem. Even if you eat the same caloric value of each, wholemeal is going to yield better results because less of it is getting converted to fat. I am dead serious. You don't need to be healthy at ALL to lose weight. Ever hear of the guy doing the twinkie diet? I'm not saying that's a good approach, because it's awful, but the point is it worked. Even if you eat sugar as your only carb source, as long as you're at a kcal deficit you will lose fat. It doesn't matter if those 1000kcal of sugar spiked your insulin and triggered bodyfat storing throughout the day, because at the end of the day you've still burned your BMR. It really is about kcal vs kcal out if you dumb it completely down. Insulin spikes do not affect the metabolism in any way. For weight loss, there is NO difference between your calories. For health, there's a huge difference, but we are talking strictly fat loss here. I also think you misunderstand the term 'dieting'. I'm not talking about a lifestyle approach that will result in a piss poor fat loss rate, I'm talking about 8-12 solid weeks of a good program that will net you the fat loss people dream of. Honestly, you come here spouting bullshit bodybuilding myths that never had any scientific merit but I don't think you've ever been through a diet yourself. You lack evidence, credibility, experience and your attitude does you no favours.
calorical deficit makes you lose weight; fat and muscle. Sure, u can starve urself and lose 10 pounds of fat with 10 pounds of muscle on a twinky diet, but I assume most people have brains and care about losing fat and sustaining as most muscle as possible.
weight loss =/= fat loss
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On September 01 2011 10:10 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 09:05 Sinep wrote:On September 01 2011 05:20 exShikari wrote:On August 31 2011 22:36 Sinep wrote:On August 31 2011 17:44 exShikari wrote:On August 31 2011 16:41 Sinep wrote:On August 31 2011 15:12 exShikari wrote:On August 30 2011 22:34 Mereel wrote:
hi guys,
i try to lose some weight because im not happy in my current situation.
i read the opening post about cardio but it seems not the right way to lose weight. it focus mainly on nutrition.
and there is the problem. i dont really know when to eat what to lose weight. i know the general rule is less carb more protein. i tried that now for some days and its really hard to find good compensators for the heavy carb amount i eat before.
what im currently eating:
breakfast: muesli with fruits (oat flakes+dried berrys, no sugar)
Inbetween: maybe some bread...dont know, thats the hardest part^^
Lunch: something with low carb, mostly chicken with vegetables or something along the line
Inbetween: salad with ewe's cheese, paprika and yogurt (i dont like oil and vinegar dressing)
Dinner: no dinner, maybe some lowfat quark or vegetables
not sure if sleep time or general eating time plays a role in losing weight but it definitely not shows any result till now.
+ i do half an hour cardio training on my homebike.
i try to lose at least 3 kilos, from 63 to 60
The amount of food you eat isn't as important as what you're actually eating. If you eat too little you're body is going to conserve that energy ie turn it to fat. Go for wholemeal pasta/rice over white, and same with bread go for multigrain over white. If you don't already, start using low-fat milks and yoghurts too. If you want to snack on something between meals have some fruit or a handful of nuts. You shouldn't be skipping dinner, eating regular smaller meals is better than having two large ones a day. Aim to have at least two cups of greens a day, and make sure to drinky plenty of water, about 2L/day. Also sleep does play a factor, you should try and get seven hours a night. Eating times don't matter really as long as you keep a routine. Hell, I have breakfast at 9pm, lunch at 3am and dinner at 6am. The joys of night shift haha Hope this helps The amount of food is the only important thing. If you eat too low calories, the only thing that happens is that your weight loss will be a higher % of muscle: fat lost. Eating only 300 kcal a day will absolutely not be stored as fat, that's a bullshit myth that's been clinically disproved. "Regular smaller meals" is also bullshit. It doesn't matter how you eat the calories, it has no effect on your metabolism either way. Do whatever works for you. I also believe that sleep is completely irrelevant to weight loss. Basically, it's kcal in vs kcal out, regardless of how you sleep. Obviously you need sleep for other reasons, but I don't think there's any need to stress it for weight loss reasons. @Mereel. If I were you, I would skip the breakfast completely and make all your meals some type of meat or other good protein source. Drop the cereal and bread for weight loss. Your lunch is a good example of the kind of thing you should be eating more of. What I mean by the amount of food is more what is in it, not the physical size of the meals. You could have three meal of filler crap, or you could have one balanced meal that will provide the same nutrients. Regular meals isn't bullshit either. True, it doesn't matter really if you eat two large or six small meals a day for your overall caloric intake and doesn't effect your metabolism too much, but if you are eating regularly through the day you're less likely to eat other snacks/too much when you do decide to eat. Also breakfast is the worst meal to skimp on. High fibre meals will help you lose weight, that's why I suggest wholemeal pasta and bread. White pasta IS bad for weight loss, but high fibre foods like vegetables are not. Telling him to not eat carbs is stupid, the best way to lose weight is to have a balanced diet and exercise regularly. Which is why sleeping is important also, nobody feels like exercising when they've had inadequate sleep. Weight loss isn't about nutrients. It's about calories. He's not asking how to be healthy, he's asking how to lose weight. Breakfast is the best meal to skip for weight loss (and there's a remarkable amount of clinical evidence that points towards health as well). High fibre meals won't help you lose weight directly. If you ate the same kcal amount of whole grain pasta as you did of white pasta, there would be no difference in weight loss. A calorie is a calorie for weight loss, regardless of whatever nutrients may be found in it. Your idea of "having a balanced diet and exercising regularly" is a great way as a lifestyle to live as a healthy person and maintain a weight perhaps, but weight loss needs more than that. For weight loss, if your calories are on point then you don't even need to lift a finger, exercise isn't required although it can be a catalyst in the process. I don't know what kind of experience you have in dieting, but some of the things you are saying definitively do not have fat loss in mind. Are you fucking serious? You need to be healthy to lose weight. That should go without saying. Wholemeal is unbelievably better for you than white pasta/bread, yes I do mean for fat loss. Most of the carbs in white pasta are high GI, and holy shit guess what? Insulin spikes, so the body slows its metabolism = turns that energy to fat. Wholemeal is low GI so you don't have that problem. Even if you eat the same caloric value of each, wholemeal is going to yield better results because less of it is getting converted to fat. I am dead serious. You don't need to be healthy at ALL to lose weight. Ever hear of the guy doing the twinkie diet? I'm not saying that's a good approach, because it's awful, but the point is it worked. Even if you eat sugar as your only carb source, as long as you're at a kcal deficit you will lose fat. It doesn't matter if those 1000kcal of sugar spiked your insulin and triggered bodyfat storing throughout the day, because at the end of the day you've still burned your BMR. It really is about kcal vs kcal out if you dumb it completely down. Insulin spikes do not affect the metabolism in any way. For weight loss, there is NO difference between your calories. For health, there's a huge difference, but we are talking strictly fat loss here. I also think you misunderstand the term 'dieting'. I'm not talking about a lifestyle approach that will result in a piss poor fat loss rate, I'm talking about 8-12 solid weeks of a good program that will net you the fat loss people dream of. Honestly, you come here spouting bullshit bodybuilding myths that never had any scientific merit but I don't think you've ever been through a diet yourself. You lack evidence, credibility, experience and your attitude does you no favours. calorical deficit makes you lose weight; fat and muscle. Sure, u can starve urself and lose 10 pounds of fat with 10 pounds of muscle on a twinky diet, but I assume most people have brains and care about losing fat and sustaining as most muscle as possible. weight loss =/= fat loss
He's not advocating it, he's just stating the difference.
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On September 01 2011 09:34 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 09:27 Froadac wrote:
Went to pt. Had me doing pushups now. Mostly pushups at this point for core stuff.
What lifting exercises correlate to that/ wifey pushups ![[image loading]](http://gmftp1.afreeca.com:8084/news_esports_photo/2008/05/25/1211677188/middle_20-1.jpg)
haha is that oov?
Today my coach made me do sldl, I was limping afterwards LOL.
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Stuffing down almost 2k calories in a single meal is HELL. I suppose I know now why leangains wasn't made for gaining weight! Luckily I could take advantage of Liquid calories - got a solid 8 cups of milk through today, which made the 3.5k total I had to eat significantly easier.
Tomorrow and friday are going to be the real challenges; I don't actually have any free time until 4 pm, so I'm either going to have to extend the fast four more hours, or find a way to eat healthily on the run/in classes. I'll probably end up dropping one of the classes I have tomorrow though, so I'll be able to get my meal in at noon after that. Friday will still be HELL.
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Yeah. I'm terrible at increasing calorie intake :/
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On September 01 2011 12:51 Froadac wrote:
Yeah. I'm terrible at increasing calorie intake :/
My PT doesnt have me at 3k Cal but when i started lifting (3 weeks ago  ) I was eating a lot of lean meats since i was told i needed 150-180g of protein a day. Needless to say I was getting to the end of my day with like 1500Cal . The best remedy I have found for this is to have beef as one of your proteins. One normal sized patty is 320 Cal and 28g of protein. This helped me a lot. Or you can drink a gallon of whole milk like people seem to do on this thread lol.
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On September 01 2011 10:10 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 09:05 Sinep wrote:On September 01 2011 05:20 exShikari wrote:On August 31 2011 22:36 Sinep wrote:On August 31 2011 17:44 exShikari wrote:On August 31 2011 16:41 Sinep wrote:On August 31 2011 15:12 exShikari wrote:On August 30 2011 22:34 Mereel wrote:
hi guys,
i try to lose some weight because im not happy in my current situation.
i read the opening post about cardio but it seems not the right way to lose weight. it focus mainly on nutrition.
and there is the problem. i dont really know when to eat what to lose weight. i know the general rule is less carb more protein. i tried that now for some days and its really hard to find good compensators for the heavy carb amount i eat before.
what im currently eating:
breakfast: muesli with fruits (oat flakes+dried berrys, no sugar)
Inbetween: maybe some bread...dont know, thats the hardest part^^
Lunch: something with low carb, mostly chicken with vegetables or something along the line
Inbetween: salad with ewe's cheese, paprika and yogurt (i dont like oil and vinegar dressing)
Dinner: no dinner, maybe some lowfat quark or vegetables
not sure if sleep time or general eating time plays a role in losing weight but it definitely not shows any result till now.
+ i do half an hour cardio training on my homebike.
i try to lose at least 3 kilos, from 63 to 60
The amount of food you eat isn't as important as what you're actually eating. If you eat too little you're body is going to conserve that energy ie turn it to fat. Go for wholemeal pasta/rice over white, and same with bread go for multigrain over white. If you don't already, start using low-fat milks and yoghurts too. If you want to snack on something between meals have some fruit or a handful of nuts. You shouldn't be skipping dinner, eating regular smaller meals is better than having two large ones a day. Aim to have at least two cups of greens a day, and make sure to drinky plenty of water, about 2L/day. Also sleep does play a factor, you should try and get seven hours a night. Eating times don't matter really as long as you keep a routine. Hell, I have breakfast at 9pm, lunch at 3am and dinner at 6am. The joys of night shift haha Hope this helps The amount of food is the only important thing. If you eat too low calories, the only thing that happens is that your weight loss will be a higher % of muscle: fat lost. Eating only 300 kcal a day will absolutely not be stored as fat, that's a bullshit myth that's been clinically disproved. "Regular smaller meals" is also bullshit. It doesn't matter how you eat the calories, it has no effect on your metabolism either way. Do whatever works for you. I also believe that sleep is completely irrelevant to weight loss. Basically, it's kcal in vs kcal out, regardless of how you sleep. Obviously you need sleep for other reasons, but I don't think there's any need to stress it for weight loss reasons. @Mereel. If I were you, I would skip the breakfast completely and make all your meals some type of meat or other good protein source. Drop the cereal and bread for weight loss. Your lunch is a good example of the kind of thing you should be eating more of. What I mean by the amount of food is more what is in it, not the physical size of the meals. You could have three meal of filler crap, or you could have one balanced meal that will provide the same nutrients. Regular meals isn't bullshit either. True, it doesn't matter really if you eat two large or six small meals a day for your overall caloric intake and doesn't effect your metabolism too much, but if you are eating regularly through the day you're less likely to eat other snacks/too much when you do decide to eat. Also breakfast is the worst meal to skimp on. High fibre meals will help you lose weight, that's why I suggest wholemeal pasta and bread. White pasta IS bad for weight loss, but high fibre foods like vegetables are not. Telling him to not eat carbs is stupid, the best way to lose weight is to have a balanced diet and exercise regularly. Which is why sleeping is important also, nobody feels like exercising when they've had inadequate sleep. Weight loss isn't about nutrients. It's about calories. He's not asking how to be healthy, he's asking how to lose weight. Breakfast is the best meal to skip for weight loss (and there's a remarkable amount of clinical evidence that points towards health as well). High fibre meals won't help you lose weight directly. If you ate the same kcal amount of whole grain pasta as you did of white pasta, there would be no difference in weight loss. A calorie is a calorie for weight loss, regardless of whatever nutrients may be found in it. Your idea of "having a balanced diet and exercising regularly" is a great way as a lifestyle to live as a healthy person and maintain a weight perhaps, but weight loss needs more than that. For weight loss, if your calories are on point then you don't even need to lift a finger, exercise isn't required although it can be a catalyst in the process. I don't know what kind of experience you have in dieting, but some of the things you are saying definitively do not have fat loss in mind. Are you fucking serious? You need to be healthy to lose weight. That should go without saying. Wholemeal is unbelievably better for you than white pasta/bread, yes I do mean for fat loss. Most of the carbs in white pasta are high GI, and holy shit guess what? Insulin spikes, so the body slows its metabolism = turns that energy to fat. Wholemeal is low GI so you don't have that problem. Even if you eat the same caloric value of each, wholemeal is going to yield better results because less of it is getting converted to fat. I am dead serious. You don't need to be healthy at ALL to lose weight. Ever hear of the guy doing the twinkie diet? I'm not saying that's a good approach, because it's awful, but the point is it worked. Even if you eat sugar as your only carb source, as long as you're at a kcal deficit you will lose fat. It doesn't matter if those 1000kcal of sugar spiked your insulin and triggered bodyfat storing throughout the day, because at the end of the day you've still burned your BMR. It really is about kcal vs kcal out if you dumb it completely down. Insulin spikes do not affect the metabolism in any way. For weight loss, there is NO difference between your calories. For health, there's a huge difference, but we are talking strictly fat loss here. I also think you misunderstand the term 'dieting'. I'm not talking about a lifestyle approach that will result in a piss poor fat loss rate, I'm talking about 8-12 solid weeks of a good program that will net you the fat loss people dream of. Honestly, you come here spouting bullshit bodybuilding myths that never had any scientific merit but I don't think you've ever been through a diet yourself. You lack evidence, credibility, experience and your attitude does you no favours. calorical deficit makes you lose weight; fat and muscle. Sure, u can starve urself and lose 10 pounds of fat with 10 pounds of muscle on a twinky diet, but I assume most people have brains and care about losing fat and sustaining as most muscle as possible. weight loss =/= fat loss
yep, I know. I was making a point, not advocating a diet of junkfood for weight loss :p
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On September 01 2011 13:34 Velocirapture wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 12:51 Froadac wrote:
Yeah. I'm terrible at increasing calorie intake :/ My PT doesnt have me at 3k Cal but when i started lifting (3 weeks ago ) I was eating a lot of lean meats since i was told i needed 150-180g of protein a day. Needless to say I was getting to the end of my day with like 1500Cal . The best remedy I have found for this is to have beef as one of your proteins. One normal sized patty is 320 Cal and 28g of protein. This helped me a lot. Or you can drink a gallon of whole milk like people seem to do on this thread lol.
If you want to eat on a low-fat diet with high calories, you need to eat a ton of carbohydrates. For example, if I followed the typical bodybuilding macros for bulking...
BW*.4 = necessary fat per day (80 grams)
BW*1 = necessary protein per day (205 grams)
820 of my calories would come from protein. 720 of my calories would come from fat. The rest of the 2000~ would have to come from carbs, which would be 500 grams+. Obviously going a little bit over the protein/fat macros never hurt anybody, but generally when bulking, high carb is fine as long as you aren't already super big with low insulin resistance.
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This threads been a bit of a shitstorm today. Still some interesting studies being thrown around.
Personally I find that I can control my weight just by modulating carbohydrate intake. I tend to eat the same amount of protein/fat everyday and just eat more potatoes/starchy carbs when I want to put on weight. Seems to work well enough for me.
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i just don't buy any carbs at all when i go shopping (except the ridiculous amount of milk i drink) and between that + beer/drunk food i come out to a somewhat reasonable diet :D
...drunk and eating pizza. i almost made it 48 hours without beer or processed food. damn you college.
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1 month without coffee or alcohol now. Last week's sauna almost made me grab a beer from fridge.
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I always find it really interesting to see both ends of the spectrum of eating habits. All you guys that are trying to gain weight, writing how "hard it is to eat 3000kcal a day", astound me, since on the other side, my obese self is sitting here and knows that I can easily have 3000kcal until 6pm if I do not restrict myself, and still have easily (at least) 1000-2000kcal ahead of me. It is amazing what years and years of completely derailed eating habits does to you and your perception of what is an appropriate amount to eat. Counting calories has surely become the most important aspect of "learning" right eating habbits for me (I would write "relearn", but I am pretty sure that not once in my life I have had good habbits).
Speaking of which, here is my caloric-report for the last two months.
Calories
2,938
(grams, calories, %-calories)
Fat
96.8 872 30%
Carbohydrate
363.8 1,455 50%
Protein
144.8 579 20%
I logged everything I ate during 56 of the last 62 days, so this is very accurate. This is combined with 3xlifting plus ~2 additional miscellaneous workouts (HIIT, Cardio) every week. I don't know the exact number, but on this lifestyle I have probably lost around 6-8kg over the last two months (which is a pretty conservative assumption and could actually be a little higher, but since only now I have a working scale again, I can trace it better from now on).
For the next two months I am gonna try to increase my protein intake by ~2-3% (trying to be realistic here, more is gonna be difficult). I am totally fat/carb-agnostic (besides that I love potatoes) and since I know from experience that my fat-loss also works well on a low-fat diet, I don't care about those ratios. My blood sugar has become stable at ~ 95-105 in the morning without medication on those 50% carbs, so that is not a very pressing issue, although less carbs certainly won't hurt me.
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95-105 is a little too close to prediabetic for me, especially fasted. If you really wanted to try to get the numbers down I would move towards 30% carbs, and make up the rest with 25-30% protein and rest with good fats such as avocadoes, coconut, etc.
On September 01 2011 09:05 decafchicken wrote:I'd probably work yoga into my routine if i had time outside of oly lifting/rugby/school T_T Nice gains charlie brown, adding weight while losing bf% is always good :D @eshlow - Knee is acting up again. After checking a few google pics i think its the LCL? Its mostly just a bit swollen and tight so i cant quite bend my knee as far as my right leg. I can lift pretty well on it and run pretty much full speed. Usually there's no pain unless it gets hit. I feel the tightness/pain around this area: + Show Spoiler +AND...my right thumb has been having pain recently for some reason on the knuckle closest to the thumbnail. If i adjust my hook grip i can usually still lift with it but if it gets hit or i press on it certain ways its pretty painful. Halp 
Hmm. The knee is a bit hard to tell without some more testing tbh. Swelling could be intracapsular, or it could just be some irritation of the capsule, connective tissues, or something else. If it keeps bothering you I would get it looked at by an ortho.
Not enough information about the thumb to make a guess.
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isnt malinor diabetic? I might be mistaken, but I think he mentioned something like that.
btw, hi guys :> been on holiday for a week and kinda busy since I came back, hence no posting! gotta start working out again too...
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Pretty sure he is, yeah. That being why he mentioned that those numbers were without medication, and that he even checks his glucose. Pretty sure he mentioned a while back when he got it under control without the medication?
Just woke up, already hungry. At least four more hours of fast, today is going to be a BITCH. I'll drink some water and try be busy so I ignore it... at least it isn't a workout day.
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On September 01 2011 21:53 phyre112 wrote:
Just woke up, already hungry. At least four more hours of fast, today is going to be a BITCH.
Trying to get sleep while hungry is the worst. If I start the feed with lunch it's hard to be satiated at at midnight when I typically go to sleep.
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On September 01 2011 23:19 rEiGN~ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 21:53 phyre112 wrote:
Just woke up, already hungry. At least four more hours of fast, today is going to be a BITCH. Trying to get sleep while hungry is the worst. If I start the feed with lunch it's hard to be satiated at at midnight when I typically go to sleep.
I'm breaking the fast around noon. Greek yogurt and almonds, ~500 calorie worth is lasting me until 1130-1230 when i'm going to bed. On workout days I add milk to that and its good. The mornig sucks though, but drinking enough water makes it easier.
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I am terrible at gaining weight, actually since I started working out I think I lost weight. It scares me because I don't want to eat a lot and gain 10 pounds in a week, but as it is, I'm not super healthy + I eat quite a lot. On a standard day it goes like this:
Breakfast:
2 egg omelette (cheese and ham) or 2 big pieces of toast with cheese.
500mL of milk
Banana/apple
Lunch:
Big Vietnamese dish, big pasta dish, maybe 500g of a home cooked meal to fill me up OR when Im working, since I work at a pizza place and I get free pizza, 8~ slices of 180 calorie per slice pizza.
Dinner
Pizza pops/instant noodles, leftovers from lunch, or just a few pieces of bread with cheese, baloney baloney and whatnot. I really only drink water and the milk.
Snacks
Haha hmm, 3~ cheesestrings, 50-100g chocolate snack per day, carrots, the crunchy peas. And on workout days a can of 100g tuna as well.
I guess the more I look at it, the more it seems like I'm not eating that much, but I'm not really sure what to change.
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