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I don't recall if I ever got an answer on the whole structured power lifting thing there seems to be rather than a more steady focus on endurance and stamina. It confuses me when people talk about one rep maxes and power lifting and so on when you seem to get far more enjoyment and far more use out of simply doing basic core exercises, pushups, situps to exhaustion, and simple running/jogging without a heel strike
So what's the attraction? Everything I've been told by my kickboxing instructor is that strength is more or less worthless until you can last at least four rounds in a boxing match, which he equates to being run for around an hour without being winded. Maybe we're talking about different priorities here, not sure.
Just curious what motivates this different mindset. I have hardly done weights at all in three years, tending to use 3-5kg dumbbells when shadowboxing/shoulder exercise and additional weight for pressups/situps but nothing beyond that. I promise I won't miss the reply this time :p
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About the first paragraph: Everyone has different priorities. For me being stronger is more useful than being able to bounce around for an hour hitting people 
And for me it is more fun to be able to move a weight that would crush a normal person than be able to do 50 pushups in a row.
A stronger athlete is a better athlete. (at the same bw)
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On August 22 2011 15:48 DONTPANIC wrote:
Does anyone rock climb? I've been climbing for about six months and I am not the type to exercise. I go about five or six times a week either to an indoor climbing gym or outside to some local cliffs. If you're finding it hard to motivate yourself to "pick stuff up and put it down again" (I'm not knocking it I'm just saying to some people like me it's not easy to get into emotionally) I strongly reccomend rock climbing. I'm 5,11" and when I started I weighed 190lbs. and in four months I weighed 175lbs and I've built back up to 185 but I'm way way stronger. I like the challange of climbing and the skill you have to develop in order to complete climbs. The routes are also graded so there is a "lvl up" kind of incentive and nice colorful tape as goals indoors. If anyone in New England wants to try it out I'm more than willing to get you started out. There are some great gyms around including Boston, Worcester and Hadley Mass. Outdoor climbing is a little more intense and I reccomend gym climbing to "learn the ropes".
:-)
Keep up the good work.
I love rock climbing but I haven't been able to get out in a while. 
It's great stuff... but yeah if you do strength train on the side it does help your performance
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On August 22 2011 19:31 Evangelist wrote:
I don't recall if I ever got an answer on the whole structured power lifting thing there seems to be rather than a more steady focus on endurance and stamina. It confuses me when people talk about one rep maxes and power lifting and so on when you seem to get far more enjoyment and far more use out of simply doing basic core exercises, pushups, situps to exhaustion, and simple running/jogging without a heel strike
So what's the attraction? Everything I've been told by my kickboxing instructor is that strength is more or less worthless until you can last at least four rounds in a boxing match, which he equates to being run for around an hour without being winded. Maybe we're talking about different priorities here, not sure.
Just curious what motivates this different mindset. I have hardly done weights at all in three years, tending to use 3-5kg dumbbells when shadowboxing/shoulder exercise and additional weight for pressups/situps but nothing beyond that. I promise I won't miss the reply this time :p
1. Depends on your goals.
2. Stronger person will have an advantage in speed, and power given correct technique of course. So yes, it's an advantage. Also, strength training does not exclude aerobic work to increase endurance.
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On August 22 2011 19:31 Evangelist wrote:
I don't recall if I ever got an answer on the whole structured power lifting thing there seems to be rather than a more steady focus on endurance and stamina. It confuses me when people talk about one rep maxes and power lifting and so on when you seem to get far more enjoyment and far more use out of simply doing basic core exercises, pushups, situps to exhaustion, and simple running/jogging without a heel strike
So what's the attraction? Everything I've been told by my kickboxing instructor is that strength is more or less worthless until you can last at least four rounds in a boxing match, which he equates to being run for around an hour without being winded. Maybe we're talking about different priorities here, not sure.
Just curious what motivates this different mindset. I have hardly done weights at all in three years, tending to use 3-5kg dumbbells when shadowboxing/shoulder exercise and additional weight for pressups/situps but nothing beyond that. I promise I won't miss the reply this time :p
You won't get big from doing pushups or sit-ups. Different goals for everyone.
PT has me doing low weight rows, and low weight lat pulldown to fix shoulder. It looks like i'm always pulling my shoulder up, which makes it hurt. It's really hard to relax the traps while doing all this stuff. Pretty damn annoying all this.
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yep.
Those articles are good.
My plates do bounce and hit each other at 140kg. I guess that means I'm doing good speeds, also on the squat, and press when I use multiple discs.
Imma start doing more and more HIIT, it has done wonders for my endurance, and I don't think I'll be cutting, but I do want to lose some body fat, so maybe lowering the intake by 500 (3500kcal sup).
All in all, good article, a good read. Put it in the OP can you?
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Going to teach my little sister to squat today.
incoming 3 hour gym session where I get nothing done except to work on my "being pissed off" technique. Great articles eshlow - definitely going to forward those to my family next time they ask me to work on her "basketball muscles"
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On August 22 2011 17:33 DONTPANIC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 16:13 travis wrote:On August 22 2011 15:48 DONTPANIC wrote:
Does anyone rock climb? I've been climbing for about six months and I am not the type to exercise. I go about five or six times a week either to an indoor climbing gym or outside to some local cliffs. If you're finding it hard to motivate yourself to "pick stuff up and put it down again" (I'm not knocking it I'm just saying to some people like me it's not easy to get into emotionally) I strongly reccomend rock climbing. I'm 5,11" and when I started I weighed 190lbs. and in four months I weighed 175lbs and I've built back up to 185 but I'm way way stronger. I like the challange of climbing and the skill you have to develop in order to complete climbs. The routes are also graded so there is a "lvl up" kind of incentive and nice colorful tape as goals indoors. If anyone in New England wants to try it out I'm more than willing to get you started out. There are some great gyms around including Boston, Worcester and Hadley Mass. Outdoor climbing is a little more intense and I reccomend gym climbing to "learn the ropes".
:-)
Keep up the good work. I wish I could still climb :-) just not able to ATM can't pay for gym membership and nowhere to climb outside around here Would you agree that it's the most fun exercise? And that it's super addicting? I wish you could climb too. I forgot to mention that it's low impact too!!! No running!!
Low impact... unless you fall 
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i made a post, i tried to break down the broader topics like "nutrition" and "weightlifting" into the distinct and more manageable sub-topics
the whole point is to make this one big thread into more manageable and useful (user-friendly) sub-threads
having the thread broken down into these major re-occuring themes means people can easily choose what exactly they want to read, and conduct Q&A that wont be lost within irrelevent spam
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On August 22 2011 17:33 DONTPANIC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 16:13 travis wrote:On August 22 2011 15:48 DONTPANIC wrote:
Does anyone rock climb? I've been climbing for about six months and I am not the type to exercise. I go about five or six times a week either to an indoor climbing gym or outside to some local cliffs. If you're finding it hard to motivate yourself to "pick stuff up and put it down again" (I'm not knocking it I'm just saying to some people like me it's not easy to get into emotionally) I strongly reccomend rock climbing. I'm 5,11" and when I started I weighed 190lbs. and in four months I weighed 175lbs and I've built back up to 185 but I'm way way stronger. I like the challange of climbing and the skill you have to develop in order to complete climbs. The routes are also graded so there is a "lvl up" kind of incentive and nice colorful tape as goals indoors. If anyone in New England wants to try it out I'm more than willing to get you started out. There are some great gyms around including Boston, Worcester and Hadley Mass. Outdoor climbing is a little more intense and I reccomend gym climbing to "learn the ropes".
:-)
Keep up the good work. I wish I could still climb :-) just not able to ATM can't pay for gym membership and nowhere to climb outside around here Would you agree that it's the most fun exercise? And that it's super addicting? I wish you could climb too. I forgot to mention that it's low impact too!!! No running!!
Most fun, I am not sure. For the effect it has on your body maybe. But I find table tennis really, really fun. Rock climbing is great though.
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Rubbish. rock climbing is the best
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Did you guys read the twitter message the Leangains author posted?
"In conclusion, caffeine intake enhances fatigue resistance and reduces muscle interstitial K(+) during intense intermittent exercise."
Do any of you guys take caffeine/coffee before training or?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21836046
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I often drink coffee to get myself going before workouts.
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That's an absolutely tiny study. But it should be looked into more.
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On August 23 2011 04:38 Advocado wrote:Did you guys read the twitter message the Leangains author posted? "In conclusion, caffeine intake enhances fatigue resistance and reduces muscle interstitial K(+) during intense intermittent exercise." Do any of you guys take caffeine/coffee before training or? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21836046
I'm a caffine addict. At least is Smolov trying its best to do so. Felt sleepy after 350mg today.
edit: considering the amount they used (6 mg/kg b.w) I'd be very dissapointed if they didn't get any effect.
Talking about today's session, it was the hardest one yet. Felt like puking the whole session but managed to suck it up and finish without missing a rep.
Halfway through!
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i dont trust coffee, it might just be my anxiety craziness but i think my heart goes crazy when i take coffee and i feel out of breath and dazed. well its not that bad but i just dont trust it so there.
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I've been climbing a couple years now, and I'm pretty much addicted. I never enjoyed going to the gym to lift, I would get bored constantly. With climbing, there's a lot of thought that goes into every work out. Every day being different is a big deal for me.
The climbing community is also amazing, most likely because there's a lot less ego. Everyone is so nice, and it's a great way to meet people. I rarely found myself talking to anyone in normal gyms.
Climbing will get you in amazing shape if you do it consistently. You won't make the kind of progress you would lifting heavy weights, but it's not bad either. Even if you already lift, climbing will definitely give you an insane forearm/hand workout that's hard(impossible?) to achieve doing standard exercises.
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Woot did a chin-up with 25 lbs today :D
Going to start SS properly when I get back from Montreal. Starting from a lower weight and all that jazz.
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