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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 23 2011 02:12 GMT
#10321
On August 23 2011 10:56 decafchicken wrote:
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On August 23 2011 10:15 Froadac wrote:
Herm. Today had reasonable diet. 3 eggs/toast+juice for breakfast. Banana/leftover pork for lunch. Oh, and a waffle tt. Dinner was salmon, salad, sweet potato, one glass skim milk, one pint whole milk.

(Local store has whole milk for 89 cents a pint, which isn't cheap, but I'm trying to figure out ways to sneak in as much as possible >.>)

Just eat everything you see!

Kid on my rugby team who is a couple inches and like 30 pounds of muscle bigger than me asked me what i did for my upper chest? I lol'd and said "i dunno, front squats? :D"

Problem is if I"m in the house I see very little qq
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
August 23 2011 02:21 GMT
#10322
What are people's opinion on wearing fitness gloves for my barbell exercises such as squats, benchpress, deadlifts etc etc. Is it A-ok? It just feels really comfortable in my hands but I want to know if it's bad for grip or anything.
I <3 Plexa.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 23 2011 02:23 GMT
#10323
Gloves are pretty useless.

http://stronglifts.com/3-reasons-deadlifting-wearing-gloves-sucks/
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Renfield
Profile Joined August 2011
United States62 Posts
August 23 2011 02:29 GMT
#10324
What's up guys I am new here but I am an avid SC player and also fitness enthusiast. I am into natural bodybuilding specifically. I am 5'9 185lbs best lifts 275 bench, 445 dl, and 365 squat. Hope everyone gets motivation in here for their fitness goals.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 23 2011 02:34 GMT
#10325
On August 23 2011 11:21 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
What are people's opinion on wearing fitness gloves for my barbell exercises such as squats, benchpress, deadlifts etc etc. Is it A-ok? It just feels really comfortable in my hands but I want to know if it's bad for grip or anything.


Making the bar bigger (which gloves will do) is going to make your grip weaker. So gloves are bad for deadlifts and rows, because you simply won't be able to hold on to as much weight. Bench and press, the harder you're squeezing, the better you're using your triceps so they're bad there as well. You'll get callouses on the parts of your hands that you need them very quickly - and they won't rip up and be rough and scratchy unless you're gripping wrong in the first place (or maybe if you have a brand new bar with the thick grippy pattern on it) so just chalk up and you should be good to go.

If your gym doesn't allow chalk, it's probably because people have made a mess with it. Be careful, and don't put on too much, you'll be fine.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 02:41:15
August 23 2011 02:40 GMT
#10326
Quick question about cooking. What is the most nutritious way to cook veggies and meat? Cooking as in boiling, using oil, etc.

by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
August 23 2011 03:06 GMT
#10327
Thanks VERY much AoN.DimSum and phyre112!
I <3 Plexa.
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
August 23 2011 03:14 GMT
#10328
On August 23 2011 10:28 DONTPANIC wrote:
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On August 23 2011 09:29 Azuzu wrote:
On August 23 2011 08:53 DONTPANIC wrote:
On August 23 2011 05:36 Azuzu wrote:
I've been climbing a couple years now, and I'm pretty much addicted. I never enjoyed going to the gym to lift, I would get bored constantly. With climbing, there's a lot of thought that goes into every work out. Every day being different is a big deal for me.

The climbing community is also amazing, most likely because there's a lot less ego. Everyone is so nice, and it's a great way to meet people. I rarely found myself talking to anyone in normal gyms.

Climbing will get you in amazing shape if you do it consistently. You won't make the kind of progress you would lifting heavy weights, but it's not bad either. Even if you already lift, climbing will definitely give you an insane forearm/hand workout that's hard(impossible?) to achieve doing standard exercises.



Well sad. I get super excited to flash new routes no matter the difficulty. Have you done any climbing specifically to train i.e. laps, 4x4s trifectas?



Hmm. Typically no, but if I feel the need to really burn out I just hop on easy problems with no breaks until I can't finish a v0 or whatever. My gym has a ridiculous number of problems (>200 boulder problems is my estimate at least) so I've never really felt compelled to train besides projecting.




Do you do them? And if so, do they help a lot? I know my progress has been a bit slow because I spend so much time projecting instead of just doing a bunch of difficult problems.


Well I've been top rope and lead climbing mostly lately because I took a fall bouldering and missed the crash pad onto my back (16ft). It was a pretty easy v4 but the last big jug before the topout spun. -.- Can't fall like that again any time soon.

I like to only project problems for a half hour at most. I have been focusing on endurance lately. I find that the structure of 4x4s for bouldering is very helpful. I will pick a v0,v1, and two v2s or harder and do the set with no breaks (if it's a top out or too short I climb down) and force a 30 sec break after every set. I find it easier to push through those last few problems when there is an end in sight rather than "climb till you can't". Though that works well too. ( four problems = 1set x 4 times).

For toprope I Really reccomend laps. If you have a partner that also wants to do laps you can usually take 2 hours and just kill yourselves. I'll do this on the day before my rest days. If you haven't done them... get your chalk bag filled up. Pick a 5.7 or 5.8 with nice bomber holds. Your belayer should have a watch or clock in sight. Climb up and then climb back down when you touch the start hold climb back up again etc... Every 5 minutes have your belayer tell you to rest... but not on your rope. Shake out one arm at a time while holding on. It's the worst part of the lap sometimes. You rest for 30 secconds then the belayer says go again. Continue this for 25 minutes and at 25 minutes climb down to finish. Never let your climber rest on the top of the wall where it's easy. Slabs are a good choice because you can usually balance with no hands. Take 5 minutes and change places. It will kill your arms dead. You burn 10 calories a minute or something so get some snax.

Lead climbing is too scary for me to do laps on... but I've seen it done.


Edit: I think it helps. I can climb longer than most people I climb with and every boulderer I've met. :-)


I have friends who would be more than willing to do that (and have, just not with the downclimbing), I just don't care that much about endurance. I was solidly climbing v2 before I could finish 40 foot 5.8s, which looking back was pretty funny. Once again though, my strong move potential has outstripped my endurance so I should get back on ropes... we'll see. I like bouldering too much.

The main problem with my endurance is that my hands get worn out much faster than my muscles. Not the tendons either, just the skin gets worn down and after a couple hours my hands are bright red. Especially working overhang stuff.

Time to head to the gym! Leaving some climbing porn

Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 23 2011 05:31 GMT
#10329
Hmmm, I have been getting indigestion recently. How would you guys deal with it?
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
August 23 2011 06:20 GMT
#10330
On August 23 2011 11:40 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Quick question about cooking. What is the most nutritious way to cook veggies and meat? Cooking as in boiling, using oil, etc.



For vegetables, a simple rule of thumb is that the longer they are exposed to heat, the more nutrients they lose. This is why raw vegetables are generally the best way to go whenever possible.

I also have a question for you:

On this Bulgarian method, would a typical workout look something like this?

Squat: 20kg x3, 3; 40kg x3; 60kg x2; 80kg x2; 100kg x1; 112.5kg x1; back off to 102.5kg x2, x2, x2.

I'm following this pattern for my lifts but I don't know if it's right.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 23 2011 06:26 GMT
#10331
I think somewhere in this thread somebody told me that pan fry = best, but that's far from scientific.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 06:32:53
August 23 2011 06:31 GMT
#10332
On August 23 2011 15:20 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 11:40 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Quick question about cooking. What is the most nutritious way to cook veggies and meat? Cooking as in boiling, using oil, etc.



For vegetables, a simple rule of thumb is that the longer they are exposed to heat, the more nutrients they lose. This is why raw vegetables are generally the best way to go whenever possible.

I also have a question for you:

On this Bulgarian method, would a typical workout look something like this?

Squat: 20kg x3, 3; 40kg x3; 60kg x2; 80kg x2; 100kg x1; 112.5kg x1; back off to 102.5kg x2, x2, x2.

I'm following this pattern for my lifts but I don't know if it's right.


Ok thanks.

That workout looks fine. It is just a daily max, no grinders I think. Also ,from my understanding, backoff sets can be anywhere from 2 to 10 reps. So you can do even more reps or not even do backoff sets if you dont want to.

Bulgarian method is based on how you feel, I cant really tell you if its right or not.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
August 23 2011 07:18 GMT
#10333
I just finished my first week of lifting and I have to say I am very happy with my new routine. I have always been intimidated by the wight room and the cost of PT but after being good about going back to the gym for a while I had no excuse and it feels great. My next session is this wed and I am enjoying going to the gym more than ever.

Every journey starts with the first step and I just took mine. :D
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
August 23 2011 07:27 GMT
#10334
On August 23 2011 15:31 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 15:20 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
On August 23 2011 11:40 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Quick question about cooking. What is the most nutritious way to cook veggies and meat? Cooking as in boiling, using oil, etc.



For vegetables, a simple rule of thumb is that the longer they are exposed to heat, the more nutrients they lose. This is why raw vegetables are generally the best way to go whenever possible.

I also have a question for you:

On this Bulgarian method, would a typical workout look something like this?

Squat: 20kg x3, 3; 40kg x3; 60kg x2; 80kg x2; 100kg x1; 112.5kg x1; back off to 102.5kg x2, x2, x2.

I'm following this pattern for my lifts but I don't know if it's right.


Ok thanks.

That workout looks fine. It is just a daily max, no grinders I think. Also ,from my understanding, backoff sets can be anywhere from 2 to 10 reps. So you can do even more reps or not even do backoff sets if you dont want to.

Bulgarian method is based on how you feel, I cant really tell you if its right or not.


Thanks :D.

Yeah, I'd heard of backoff sets of 2-5 before, but never knew they could go as high as 10. I think coaching would help me out a lot here in terms of what I need, but so far I've just stuck to doubles. I guess today I felt good enough to do triples on my backoff sets, so maybe I should have pushed a bit harder.

Eh, as the article says, always err on the "too little" side. I'll see how things go tomorrow.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
August 23 2011 11:16 GMT
#10335
Question about lifting shoes: I see Converse being recommended a lot as an alternative to "real" weight lifting shoes. However when I look at lifting shoes they don't look at all like Converse.

Lifting shows seem to have raised heels as well - what is that good for? It just appears to me that would screw with my squat balance a lot.
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
August 23 2011 11:20 GMT
#10336
On August 23 2011 20:16 zatic wrote:
Question about lifting shoes: I see Converse being recommended a lot as an alternative to "real" weight lifting shoes. However when I look at lifting shoes they don't look at all like Converse.

Lifting shows seem to have raised heels as well - what is that good for? It just appears to me that would screw with my squat balance a lot.


High bar squat + Olympic lifts = weightlifting shoes. The raised heel is necessary for getting into the upright squat/front squat position.

Low bar squat + powerlifting = flat shoes, although almost all powerlifters now wear weightlifting shoes anyway. Flat shoes are fine for low bar squats, but they're not the best idea for high bar squats.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
August 23 2011 12:49 GMT
#10337
Urgh, school starting again. Time to get organized with things again.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
August 23 2011 13:42 GMT
#10338
Final sets
5x286 squat
6x176 power clean (just starting -___-)
5x121 clean & press
4x352 deadlift

1 Set of neutral grip chins x 18 reps

Went home and ate half a chicken.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 23 2011 14:54 GMT
#10339
On August 23 2011 20:16 zatic wrote:
Question about lifting shoes: I see Converse being recommended a lot as an alternative to "real" weight lifting shoes. However when I look at lifting shoes they don't look at all like Converse.

Lifting shows seem to have raised heels as well - what is that good for? It just appears to me that would screw with my squat balance a lot.


Converse for the flat, solid heal - it's as close as you can get to going barefoot, without going barefoot. Anything with a similar bottom will work just as well, I personally lift in pumas that have almost no sole in them.

WEight lifting shoes are an extremely solid heal (some of them have blocks of wood in the heels) that is also elevated - it helps with the flexibility and the stability to properly perform front squats as well as the olympic lifts. I'm not sure why power lifters would use them.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 23 2011 15:34 GMT
#10340
happy birthday zatic

I would only get weightlifting shoes if you have poor flexibility in the squat or are doing the olympic lifts. They are pretty expensive.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
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