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BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
July 11 2011 11:02 GMT
#8601
On July 11 2011 19:58 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:52 BouBou.865 wrote:
I'm a bit intimidated by all of these programs. Ochita Falls, Practical Programming, Olympic Dogkicker Mass Builder 5000... What's considered the most standard?

A: 5x3 squat
5x3 bench
5x1 Dl

B: ?

Can't make head nor tail of that part of the book.


B 5x3 squat
5x3 Overhead press
3x5 power clean

That's the original program as far as I've come to understand. Anything with chinups, pullups, dips, curls, special deadlifts, rows, etc. etc. is an alteration on the original for people who don't want to do something specific (Usually don't want to do power cleans)/


Thanks a bunch Phyre. Wanna make it a little derby? Post results after every session >:D
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
July 11 2011 11:11 GMT
#8602
Guys, im 17 and a half, should i start using some powders etc and vitamine pills beside my food? Or eating right food will give me enought everything.

Also, i just started fitday.com diary, it has been 5 days. And i have cut all cheap carbs i have been eating and i lost 95kg to 92.5kg in this time. Is this a starting shock and i will stop losing so much weight? I am not fat but not fit either so i think it will stop soon. I will weight myself tonight too and lets see if this has stoped allready.



Only weak go to gym...to get stronger, thats what i am doing
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:17:27
July 11 2011 11:17 GMT
#8603
On July 11 2011 20:11 inimenesc wrote:
Guys, im 17 and a half, should i start using some powders etc and vitamine pills beside my food? Or eating right food will give me enought everything.

Also, i just started fitday.com diary, it has been 5 days. And i have cut all cheap carbs i have been eating and i lost 95kg to 92.5kg in this time. Is this a starting shock and i will stop losing so much weight? I am not fat but not fit either so i think it will stop soon. I will weight myself tonight too and lets see if this has stoped allready.



Only weak go to gym...to get stronger, thats what i am doing

afaik weight losses will get harder when you get down to a more reasonable weight. If you are not lactose intolerant drinking a gallon of full fat milk as a supplement should be enough. Fishoil is suspposedly incredible, though.

Also the biggest monsters on this planet hit the gym. It's not like masturbation is enough to maintain a 700lb deadlift.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:32:46
July 11 2011 11:21 GMT
#8604
On July 11 2011 20:17 BouBou.865 wrote:
Also the biggest monsters on this planet hit the gym. It's not like masturbation is enough to maintain a 700lb deadlift.

I wish we had a quotebook

I am like 200+ or 6 7" so 95kg is quite normal for me.

-e- weight now 91.7 thats 3.3kg off in 6days.. not possible?
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
July 11 2011 11:26 GMT
#8605
Yay hit 120 kg deadlift! I'm getting STRUNG!

Bunch of big guys did deadlifts with a shitload of plates on though, was pretty insane. Felt a bit weird to step up after them and do some of my own level deadlifts, but I got them done and wasn't intimidated. That's what matters to me!
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
July 11 2011 11:49 GMT
#8606
On July 11 2011 20:26 Advocado wrote:
Yay hit 120 kg deadlift! I'm getting STRUNG!

Bunch of big guys did deadlifts with a shitload of plates on though, was pretty insane. Felt a bit weird to step up after them and do some of my own level deadlifts, but I got them done and wasn't intimidated. That's what matters to me!


lol I know how you feel. Went squatting yesterday even though the guy before me was reppin 240kg...just feels wierd.

@BouBou: You might want to add some mobility and prehab stuff before your squatting instead of the "long" warmup on the bike/rowing machine.

All I've got more to say is GL&HF!
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 12:00:32
July 11 2011 12:00 GMT
#8607
On July 11 2011 20:21 inimenesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:17 BouBou.865 wrote:
Also the biggest monsters on this planet hit the gym. It's not like masturbation is enough to maintain a 700lb deadlift.

I wish we had a quotebook

I am like 200+ or 6 7" so 95kg is quite normal for me.

-e- weight now 91.7 thats 3.3kg off in 6days.. not possible?


Of course it's possible, just don't believe that you just lost 3,3kg of fat in 6 days. Could be waterweight, could be whatever. The movement of the scale is accurate as a longterm-measurement, it doesn't give you accurate results on a day-to-day basis, especially when you just startet a new diet or training regime, and your body is adapting all over the place.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
July 11 2011 12:21 GMT
#8608
urgh, got a draft for next years seminars. It's going to take some serious time management to pull this off properly.

Some days have lectures, discussion meetings and other stuff from 8.20 to 18.00 >.<
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
July 11 2011 12:30 GMT
#8609
On May 25 2011 15:15 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Name/nick-jjh
Age: 16 || Height: 170 cm/ 5'6 || Weight: 134lbs/61kg
Starting Date: 25/5/11 || Goal Date: 25/10/11
Weight goals -- 66+kg and 175 cm probably not but lets hope!
Training goals -- 3 sets of 20-30 pushups with 8kgs (hopefully more)
Right now i am at 3 sets of 23 with 2.5 kgs.
3minute planche
8kg piston squats?
Nutrition goals -- Milk, Milo and meat!
Misc goals -- Abs-



Almost 2 months ago!.
Thought i should update it and continue to update.
I am currently 62 kgs/135lb not sure how i only gained 1 kilo probably because of the once a week cardio.
And i can do 3x15 push ups with 5 kgs on my back (very good and happy form)
3x40-50seconds of plank with 5 kgs on my hip/back.
with nutrition- i am drinking about 4 litres a week(milk) and eating alot more meat(like 2-3 serves every 2 days)

Pecs are alot bigger, Triceps are abit bigger and my traps are bigger.
Was hoping for bigger triceps/arms/shoulders but o well.

Found a new love for tricep bench dips ( cant do chair dips coz i broke 2 chairs already LOL) and handstands.
I am pretty sure i can reach my goals of 8kg push ups 3x20 by september but i will leave them for wall handstands and bench dips to get BIGGER unless eshlow says otherwise lol.

New goals-
3x20 seconds handstands
3x10 8kg /17.5pounds bench dips.
misc goals- ABS and get better at basketball.

This thread is full of inspirations/motivation and help for EVERYONE.!!!!

Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 11 2011 13:21 GMT
#8610
On July 11 2011 20:11 inimenesc wrote:
Guys, im 17 and a half, should i start using some powders etc and vitamine pills beside my food? Or eating right food will give me enought everything.

Also, i just started fitday.com diary, it has been 5 days. And i have cut all cheap carbs i have been eating and i lost 95kg to 92.5kg in this time. Is this a starting shock and i will stop losing so much weight? I am not fat but not fit either so i think it will stop soon. I will weight myself tonight too and lets see if this has stoped allready.



Only weak go to gym...to get stronger, thats what i am doing


As stated, gains will continue but will get less.

It's kind of like the log function in math where big numbers will taper off

On July 11 2011 19:52 BouBou.865 wrote:
I'm a bit intimidated by all of these programs. Ochita Falls, Practical Programming, Olympic Dogkicker Mass Builder 5000... What's considered the most standard?

A: 5x3 squat
5x3 bench
5x1 Dl

B: ?

Can't make head nor tail of that part of the book.


http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki

See the Six steps on the side.... basically lines out what you are supposed do.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 11 2011 13:23 GMT
#8611
On July 11 2011 13:50 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 12:31 GoTuNk! wrote:
Edit: @NeverGG
sorry to deadhaji who missunderstood me :p

Why on earth would you like to weight so litle =(


Just to clarify in case you don't know - I'm a woman. So, I'm looking for the opposite of most of the guys on this thread ^_^ I think 5'11/65kg is still pretty hefty in some peoples' opinions? 5'11/79kg is practically a whale (at least for me personally.) I don't want to turn into some kind of obese lump by the time I'm 35.

Thanks for the advice guys :D I was probably eating a little bit too much tofu tbh (although eating it a long with small amounts of the wholegrain/wholemeal bread settled my digestive issues right down.) so I'll try and introduce a few different alternatives instead of just going for tofu every day. (Even if it tastes so good >.<)

@phyre112; Thanks for the vitamin recs. I have no idea where to start in the respect, but I feel like I should be taking some kinds of suppliments.

@eshlow; I find that eating a lot of simple carbs/cheese causes me the most problems. Also things like ice cream. It got much better once I started subbing it all out for limited amounts of cereal/brown bread and lots of tofu. I could definitely make things even healthier though.


If simple carbs are messing you up bread and cereals are honestly not much better.

Try to keep the tofu down in favor of real foods!

Seriously, there are studies which show increasing protein is all that is needed for weight loss in women.

But we want to get you some more healthy fats, cut down on the carbs, and eat enough proteins.


On July 11 2011 14:38 jjhchsc2 wrote:
lol was trying some of the planche progressions for fun and to test myself.
Got stuck at tuck planche coz of crappy form lol.
I was wondering what muscles do these planches develop/use?


Planche uses almost all of the upper body muscles done correctly. Youwill probably mostly feel it in the anterior shoulders and chest though
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 11 2011 13:25 GMT
#8612
On July 11 2011 19:00 BouBou.865 wrote:
BouBou.865
Age: 17 || Height: 6'4 or 1.94 || Weight: 80kg
Starting Date:11/07/2011 || Goal Date: 11/11/2011
Weight goals -- Gain 10 kg's of straight up muscle in these 4 months.
Training goals -- Get really, really strong. Also good at rowing
Nutrition goals -- Learn to cook for myself and have breakfast with craptons of chicken. Maybe paleo.
Misc goals -- Let my hair grow again, bang assloads of chicks, learn how to whistle with my fingers.
Have someone tell me I have an incredible physique.

Starting starting strength today, got my protein, creatine and fishoil stacked up, super crazy baller hyped. Gone through SS now, picked up a lot of stuff.
Planning on doing:
- 15 mins of cycling for first workout (or rowing)
-5x2 warmup squats, 20kg (empty bar) 1 min rest
- 5x3 squats, 50kg 1.30 rest
-5x1 warmup bench, 20kg
-5x3 bench press 40kg
-5x1 warmup DL
-5x1 DL 60kg
Stretching + 10 mins skipping rope.

Plan on really, really getting that technique down solidly. 10kg increments on DL, 5kg on squat, 2.5kg on rest. Are these increments per training? (so 3 increments per week?) I did read SS, but english is not my native language. Cheers!


Yes, increase every training session. 10kg on DL might be a bit ambitious... usually its 5-7.5kg with DL and 2.5-5kg with the squat, and bench/press at 2.5kg

Rest 3-4 minutes between work sets!!! This is important.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
July 11 2011 14:14 GMT
#8613
Crossfit today, holy junk I'm out of shape. I managed a decent time, but the headache I got after is terrible, feel like I'm going to die. The workout was:

50 jump pullups
400M run
21 Thrusters (75 lbs)
800M Run
21 Thrusters (65 lbs)
400M Run
50 jump pullups

15 mins to do, it wasn't pretty.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
July 11 2011 14:21 GMT
#8614
After 18 months living in hotels I have my own place again starting today. Finally off hotel breakfast buffet, I couldn't stand that shit anymore.

Suggest your favorite low carb recipe!

A question regarding recovering: Recently I have had a really bad time recovering from gym days for the squat. Seems like I can't do two consequitives sessions with increased squat, as my legs really feel sore still on the second day. One day rest just doesn't seem to be enough. I have not changed anything in the amount of sleep or nutrition I am having. What can I do to speed up recovery times?
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
July 11 2011 14:24 GMT
#8615
Whole video is nice, but look at the guy jumping at ~4:35. Beautiful squatting can be seen at ~2:35

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 11 2011 14:32 GMT
#8616
On July 11 2011 23:14 Dalguno wrote:
Crossfit today, holy junk I'm out of shape. I managed a decent time, but the headache I got after is terrible, feel like I'm going to die. The workout was:

50 jump pullups
400M run
21 Thrusters (75 lbs)
800M Run
21 Thrusters (65 lbs)
400M Run
50 jump pullups

15 mins to do, it wasn't pretty.


Be careful about jumping pullups man especially high repetition

Rhabdo is serious business.

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/09/looking-at-rhabdomyolysis/

In fact, that is waaaaaaaay too high volume to be giving someone their first day of CF. I personally would question the quality of trainers you have at the one you are going to.


On July 11 2011 23:21 zatic wrote:
After 18 months living in hotels I have my own place again starting today. Finally off hotel breakfast buffet, I couldn't stand that shit anymore.

Suggest your favorite low carb recipe!

A question regarding recovering: Recently I have had a really bad time recovering from gym days for the squat. Seems like I can't do two consequitives sessions with increased squat, as my legs really feel sore still on the second day. One day rest just doesn't seem to be enough. I have not changed anything in the amount of sleep or nutrition I am having. What can I do to speed up recovery times?


Eat more (especially proteins), or sleep more

Post workout is definitely an option. YOu using whole milk? vitamin D? creatine?

You may just be nearing a plateau of your gains though. So it depends.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
July 11 2011 14:39 GMT
#8617
so last week, after 1 year break i went to the gym again, i was 98 when i started, today after 1 week im 100? the hell?
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
July 11 2011 14:59 GMT
#8618
They had me skip the "benchmark," I don't really know why. It was another girl's firs time and they had her do it, but not me. I dunno.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 11 2011 16:55 GMT
#8619
How is everyone doing? I'm just getting fat in Mongolia

Will be back in about a week though!

On July 11 2011 23:21 zatic wrote:
After 18 months living in hotels I have my own place again starting today. Finally off hotel breakfast buffet, I couldn't stand that shit anymore.

Suggest your favorite low carb recipe!

A question regarding recovering: Recently I have had a really bad time recovering from gym days for the squat. Seems like I can't do two consequitives sessions with increased squat, as my legs really feel sore still on the second day. One day rest just doesn't seem to be enough. I have not changed anything in the amount of sleep or nutrition I am having. What can I do to speed up recovery times?


I had this problem too when I was following SS religiously. Eventually, I did about 80% on Wednesdays and only tried to make progress on Mondays and Fridays.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#8620
On July 12 2011 01:55 Cambium wrote:
How is everyone doing? I'm just getting fat in Mongolia

Will be back in about a week though!

Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 23:21 zatic wrote:
After 18 months living in hotels I have my own place again starting today. Finally off hotel breakfast buffet, I couldn't stand that shit anymore.

Suggest your favorite low carb recipe!

A question regarding recovering: Recently I have had a really bad time recovering from gym days for the squat. Seems like I can't do two consequitives sessions with increased squat, as my legs really feel sore still on the second day. One day rest just doesn't seem to be enough. I have not changed anything in the amount of sleep or nutrition I am having. What can I do to speed up recovery times?


I had this problem too when I was following SS religiously. Eventually, I did about 80% on Wednesdays and only tried to make progress on Mondays and Fridays.


Zatic, be like decaf and bitch at your parents for better genetics.

:p!

Seriously, I had this problem, and I just did kept up with it. Shit is insane, and well, your legs will never be "top notch" after a hard day on a monday workout session (specially me that I like to go batshit and load 120kg on the bar ;D)
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