On July 10 2011 13:26 Malinor wrote: WAT, blood sugar at 88mg/dl this morning. That is the lowest value I have ever had since diagnosed with diabetes mellitus 4 years ago, and I already cut back on my medication. If I can continue eating and exercising like this for a couple more weeks, I can probably get rid of those stupid pills altogether.
The inspiration I find in this thread is just mind-boggling, thanks a lot guys.
Pretty good... you paleoing?
I would not label it with paleo, that seems a little bit of a stretch:
- I try to cut out as much processed food as possible. - I drink nearly only water and have cut all fruit juices. I still have 1-2cans of coca cola a day, I am pretty addidcted in this regard. But still, this is probably the biggest step for me, since I assume that through the last 15 years (no exaggeration) I have probably had ~750-1500kcal a day through liquids, and I have now limited this to ~140-420 (420 being 1 litre of coke-.-). - I eat way more meat than before, mostly lean though - Lots of vegetables and berries (strawberries are gods gift to good people)
I still eat some grains, basically only through bread. I find these rather hard to eliminate, since bread is such a basic component in german eating behaviour, it is just ingrained in my brain. Mixed with my coca cola addiction and the occasional snacking of chocolate and cookies, I would maybe call this paleo-ish at best. Highest priority for me has the elimination of processed foods, which of course is part of the paleo concept. For what it's worth, my intake of carbohydrates has gone down from 65-70% a day to 50-55%.
I don't want to sell this as a huge success-story though. I have been fat for so long, I know how fragile I am when it comes to nutrition. That being said, it feels like a sustainable lifestyle and I feel like I have been down a good road since 2 years and improved throughout, unfortunately with a 6month major fuck-up in between because of stupid reasons (see the "fragile" part).
What this thread has done for me above anything else is that for weight loss nutrition is more important than exercising. In the back of my head I have always known this, but I guess everybody here realizes that sometimes there is a difference between knowing and real understanding. In the past I have mostly tried to run or exercise my weight away, and while that works to a certain degree, it is simply not sustainable unless you are a professional/ college athlete. You just cannot win in the long run. Once your weightloss stales and you get frustrated, you exercise less and everything turns to shit in a downwards spirale. I sitll have an extremely long way to go.
On July 10 2011 13:26 Malinor wrote: WAT, blood sugar at 88mg/dl this morning. That is the lowest value I have ever had since diagnosed with diabetes mellitus 4 years ago, and I already cut back on my medication. If I can continue eating and exercising like this for a couple more weeks, I can probably get rid of those stupid pills altogether.
The inspiration I find in this thread is just mind-boggling, thanks a lot guys.
Pretty good... you paleoing?
I would not label it with paleo, that seems a little bit of a stretch:
- I try to cut out as much processed food as possible. - I drink nearly only water and have cut all fruit juices. I still have 1-2cans of coca cola a day, I am pretty addidcted in this regard. But still, this is probably the biggest step for me, since I assume that through the last 15 years (no exaggeration) I have probably had ~750-1500kcal a day through liquids, and I have now limited this to ~140-420 (420 being 1 litre of coke-.-). - I eat way more meat than before, mostly lean though - Lots of vegetables and berries (strawberries are gods gift to good people)
I still eat some grains, basically only through bread. I find these rather hard to eliminate, since bread is such a basic component in german eating behaviour, it is just ingrained in my brain. Mixed with my coca cola addiction and the occasional snacking of chocolate and cookies, I would maybe call this paleo-ish at best. Highest priority for me has the elimination of processed foods, which of course is part of the paleo concept. For what it's worth, my intake of carbohydrates has gone down from 65-70% a day to 50-55%.
I don't want to sell this as a huge success-story though. I have been fat for so long, I know how fragile I am when it comes to nutrition. That being said, it feels like a sustainable lifestyle and I feel like I have been down a good road since 2 years and improved throughout, unfortunately with a 6month major fuck-up in between because of stupid reasons (see the "fragile" part).
What this thread has done for me above anything else is that for weight loss nutrition is more important than exercising. In the back of my head I have always known this, but I guess everybody here realizes that sometimes there is a difference between knowing and real understanding. In the past I have mostly tried to run or exercise my weight away, and while that works to a certain degree, it is simply not sustainable unless you are a professional/ college athlete. You just cannot win in the long run. Once your weightloss stales and you get frustrated, you exercise less and everything turns to shit in a downwards spirale. I sitll have an extremely long way to go.
I hope your doing it because of the doctors prescribing and not for the hell of it. I don't know anything about your situation but I've known people who tried to self medicate without their doctor and that shit can end up killing you.
That said you are an inspiration to us all Malinor!
Last night I went out for a beer of two and ended up hooking up with them ladies, this weightlifting really gives one confidence and strength enough to throw around with the girls. Fun Fun Fun ! Time to hit the gym tomorrow, can't fucking wait.
Can someone please explain to me how IIFYM doesn't work? I'm not talking from a health perspective, cause obliviously mcdonalds is bad for your health, but I doubt it's going to stop you from gaining muscle
On July 10 2011 13:26 Malinor wrote: WAT, blood sugar at 88mg/dl this morning. That is the lowest value I have ever had since diagnosed with diabetes mellitus 4 years ago, and I already cut back on my medication. If I can continue eating and exercising like this for a couple more weeks, I can probably get rid of those stupid pills altogether.
The inspiration I find in this thread is just mind-boggling, thanks a lot guys.
Pretty good... you paleoing?
I would not label it with paleo, that seems a little bit of a stretch:
- I try to cut out as much processed food as possible. - I drink nearly only water and have cut all fruit juices. I still have 1-2cans of coca cola a day, I am pretty addidcted in this regard. But still, this is probably the biggest step for me, since I assume that through the last 15 years (no exaggeration) I have probably had ~750-1500kcal a day through liquids, and I have now limited this to ~140-420 (420 being 1 litre of coke-.-). - I eat way more meat than before, mostly lean though - Lots of vegetables and berries (strawberries are gods gift to good people)
I still eat some grains, basically only through bread. I find these rather hard to eliminate, since bread is such a basic component in german eating behaviour, it is just ingrained in my brain. Mixed with my coca cola addiction and the occasional snacking of chocolate and cookies, I would maybe call this paleo-ish at best. Highest priority for me has the elimination of processed foods, which of course is part of the paleo concept. For what it's worth, my intake of carbohydrates has gone down from 65-70% a day to 50-55%.
I don't want to sell this as a huge success-story though. I have been fat for so long, I know how fragile I am when it comes to nutrition. That being said, it feels like a sustainable lifestyle and I feel like I have been down a good road since 2 years and improved throughout, unfortunately with a 6month major fuck-up in between because of stupid reasons (see the "fragile" part).
What this thread has done for me above anything else is that for weight loss nutrition is more important than exercising. In the back of my head I have always known this, but I guess everybody here realizes that sometimes there is a difference between knowing and real understanding. In the past I have mostly tried to run or exercise my weight away, and while that works to a certain degree, it is simply not sustainable unless you are a professional/ college athlete. You just cannot win in the long run. Once your weightloss stales and you get frustrated, you exercise less and everything turns to shit in a downwards spirale. I sitll have an extremely long way to go.
I hope your doing it because of the doctors prescribing and not for the hell of it. I don't know anything about your situation but I've known people who tried to self medicate without their doctor and that shit can end up killing you.
That said you are an inspiration to us all Malinor!
Last night I went out for a beer of two and ended up hooking up with them ladies, this weightlifting really gives one confidence and strength enough to throw around with the girls. Fun Fun Fun ! Time to hit the gym tomorrow, can't fucking wait.
Don't know what you mean with self-medicating. The pills I take against diabetes are of course prescribed by a doctor. And of course the goal is basically to try to live without them. So when my blood sugar stabilized in a reasonable region, I changed from two pills a day to one. Now it's monitoring time again, but as of now, blood sugar only goes down. So obviously before I am hypoglycemic (too low blood sugar), I will stop using them all together and again monitor the results.
On July 10 2011 22:31 Advocado wrote: Last night I went out for a beer of two and ended up hooking up with them ladies, this weightlifting really gives one confidence and strength enough to throw around with the girls. Fun Fun Fun ! Time to hit the gym tomorrow, can't fucking wait.
Yeah, after a heavy set of squats I feel like I need a woman.
On July 10 2011 13:26 Malinor wrote: WAT, blood sugar at 88mg/dl this morning. That is the lowest value I have ever had since diagnosed with diabetes mellitus 4 years ago, and I already cut back on my medication. If I can continue eating and exercising like this for a couple more weeks, I can probably get rid of those stupid pills altogether.
The inspiration I find in this thread is just mind-boggling, thanks a lot guys.
Pretty good... you paleoing?
I would not label it with paleo, that seems a little bit of a stretch:
- I try to cut out as much processed food as possible. - I drink nearly only water and have cut all fruit juices. I still have 1-2cans of coca cola a day, I am pretty addidcted in this regard. But still, this is probably the biggest step for me, since I assume that through the last 15 years (no exaggeration) I have probably had ~750-1500kcal a day through liquids, and I have now limited this to ~140-420 (420 being 1 litre of coke-.-). - I eat way more meat than before, mostly lean though - Lots of vegetables and berries (strawberries are gods gift to good people)
I still eat some grains, basically only through bread. I find these rather hard to eliminate, since bread is such a basic component in german eating behaviour, it is just ingrained in my brain. Mixed with my coca cola addiction and the occasional snacking of chocolate and cookies, I would maybe call this paleo-ish at best. Highest priority for me has the elimination of processed foods, which of course is part of the paleo concept. For what it's worth, my intake of carbohydrates has gone down from 65-70% a day to 50-55%.
I don't want to sell this as a huge success-story though. I have been fat for so long, I know how fragile I am when it comes to nutrition. That being said, it feels like a sustainable lifestyle and I feel like I have been down a good road since 2 years and improved throughout, unfortunately with a 6month major fuck-up in between because of stupid reasons (see the "fragile" part).
What this thread has done for me above anything else is that for weight loss nutrition is more important than exercising. In the back of my head I have always known this, but I guess everybody here realizes that sometimes there is a difference between knowing and real understanding. In the past I have mostly tried to run or exercise my weight away, and while that works to a certain degree, it is simply not sustainable unless you are a professional/ college athlete. You just cannot win in the long run. Once your weightloss stales and you get frustrated, you exercise less and everything turns to shit in a downwards spirale. I sitll have an extremely long way to go.
I hope your doing it because of the doctors prescribing and not for the hell of it. I don't know anything about your situation but I've known people who tried to self medicate without their doctor and that shit can end up killing you.
That said you are an inspiration to us all Malinor!
Last night I went out for a beer of two and ended up hooking up with them ladies, this weightlifting really gives one confidence and strength enough to throw around with the girls. Fun Fun Fun ! Time to hit the gym tomorrow, can't fucking wait.
Don't know what you mean with self-medicating. The pills I take against diabetes are of course prescribed by a doctor. And of course the goal is basically to try to live without them. So when my blood sugar stabilized in a reasonable region, I changed from two pills a day to one. Now it's monitoring time again, but as of now, blood sugar only goes down. So obviously before I am hypoglycemic (too low blood sugar), I will stop using them all together and again monitor the results.
Thank you very much for the nice words.
What I meant was that a dear friend of mine ended up dead after lowering his own intake of heart medicine without consulting their doctor. You are obviously smarter than that.
On July 10 2011 21:48 holyone wrote: Wow great thread and i just saw it today FML!
In September 2010 i started with 95kg on 169cm (a freaking lot i know) doing some exercices.
First month i did essentially fitness training to get a better airflow into the body. I remember doing 2min on the treadmill and almost dieing..after the first two weeks of pain in the muscles due to the acids it started to get better and i started to push harder for myself.
On the following months i started doing some weight lifting, initial plan i was doing overall exercise on the body just for it to get used to.
In December i had multiple broken ribs during a robbery so i had to stay put for 1 and a half month which was a bitch since i was loosing some weight and getting hyped about it.
When i got back i started doing other weight lifting exercices and by muscle groups as follows: Legs / Shoulders Chest / Tricep Back / Bicep
After i hit 80kg i was getting demoralized since i wasn't loosing any weight for a month. I decided then to start doing some RPM exercices and also got myself into Muay Thai where my neighbour trains.
Now i just changed jobs and am looking for a new gym near the new job spot but the nearest one will be closed during august
At the moment im on 73.8kg (lowest i got was 72.5 but i had to stop a bit due to some personal problems and regained weight freaking fast)
As for my meals i stoped doing any fast food meals and started doing some fruit salads and soup once in a while and alot of grilled fish and white meat. (but once in a while...hell im only human)
So yeah now im 73.8kg on 169cm (still short guy damn )
My questions are: Should i have done something diferent? Do you guys have any helpful tips for that i could use for trying to get the rest of my body into shape ?
Thanks
No, use worrying about what you should have done.
Nutrition is most important for losing weight. See OP for details about Paleo.
And most of us here recommend weight training.... Starting Strength (in the OP) is also a good program. The one you were on in a split which works but not as well as full body routine.
On July 10 2011 13:26 Malinor wrote: WAT, blood sugar at 88mg/dl this morning. That is the lowest value I have ever had since diagnosed with diabetes mellitus 4 years ago, and I already cut back on my medication. If I can continue eating and exercising like this for a couple more weeks, I can probably get rid of those stupid pills altogether.
The inspiration I find in this thread is just mind-boggling, thanks a lot guys.
Pretty good... you paleoing?
I would not label it with paleo, that seems a little bit of a stretch:
- I try to cut out as much processed food as possible. - I drink nearly only water and have cut all fruit juices. I still have 1-2cans of coca cola a day, I am pretty addidcted in this regard. But still, this is probably the biggest step for me, since I assume that through the last 15 years (no exaggeration) I have probably had ~750-1500kcal a day through liquids, and I have now limited this to ~140-420 (420 being 1 litre of coke-.-). - I eat way more meat than before, mostly lean though - Lots of vegetables and berries (strawberries are gods gift to good people)
I still eat some grains, basically only through bread. I find these rather hard to eliminate, since bread is such a basic component in german eating behaviour, it is just ingrained in my brain. Mixed with my coca cola addiction and the occasional snacking of chocolate and cookies, I would maybe call this paleo-ish at best. Highest priority for me has the elimination of processed foods, which of course is part of the paleo concept. For what it's worth, my intake of carbohydrates has gone down from 65-70% a day to 50-55%.
I don't want to sell this as a huge success-story though. I have been fat for so long, I know how fragile I am when it comes to nutrition. That being said, it feels like a sustainable lifestyle and I feel like I have been down a good road since 2 years and improved throughout, unfortunately with a 6month major fuck-up in between because of stupid reasons (see the "fragile" part).
What this thread has done for me above anything else is that for weight loss nutrition is more important than exercising. In the back of my head I have always known this, but I guess everybody here realizes that sometimes there is a difference between knowing and real understanding. In the past I have mostly tried to run or exercise my weight away, and while that works to a certain degree, it is simply not sustainable unless you are a professional/ college athlete. You just cannot win in the long run. Once your weightloss stales and you get frustrated, you exercise less and everything turns to shit in a downwards spirale. I sitll have an extremely long way to go.
Ehh, not really Paleo-ish. Though not too shabby all things considered.
Obviously, I tihnk the next thing to go should be the sodas since fructose in particular have direct effects on liver and pancreas/insulin....
Just try not to eat grained bread. There are degrees of "goodness" of bread and white although fast absorbing sugar-wise (which is not exactly good for diabetes to say the least) has the least grain effects on the body.
But yeah, diet is super important. If you need something sweet instead of soda I would switch to dark chocolate. At least it has some redeeming nutritional value.
On July 10 2011 22:45 urasheep wrote: Can someone please explain to me how IIFYM doesn't work? I'm not talking from a health perspective, cause obliviously mcdonalds is bad for your health, but I doubt it's going to stop you from gaining muscle
IIFYM?
On July 11 2011 00:47 urasheep wrote: Eshlow, what stretches and diet would you recommend to a 15 year old trying to maximize his height potential? Any tips, please.
There are no stretches to increase height... although physical activity in general is good for you for obvious reasons.
The only way to get taller is eat more (and hope you got good genetics for height).
On July 10 2011 22:45 urasheep wrote: Can someone please explain to me how IIFYM doesn't work? I'm not talking from a health perspective, cause obliviously mcdonalds is bad for your health, but I doubt it's going to stop you from gaining muscle
Yesterday when I was staring my warm up sets of FS after I was done with my first set, my abductors started to hurt really bad. It was this discomfort pain. When I did my other sets, it did not bother me. It hurt when I was resting or cooling down.
On July 10 2011 22:45 urasheep wrote: Can someone please explain to me how IIFYM doesn't work? I'm not talking from a health perspective, cause obliviously mcdonalds is bad for your health, but I doubt it's going to stop you from gaining muscle
Yesterday when I was staring my warm up sets of FS after I was done with my first set, my abductors started to hurt really bad. It was this discomfort pain. When I did my other sets, it did not bother me. It hurt when I was resting or cooling down.
Any info on this? RICE it just in case?
Thx
Quoting myself. Help?
Hard to tell what it might be since it didn't hurt during other sets but did in cooldown. Could be a minor strain... I would do some mobility work but not stretch it.
On July 10 2011 22:45 urasheep wrote: Can someone please explain to me how IIFYM doesn't work? I'm not talking from a health perspective, cause obliviously mcdonalds is bad for your health, but I doubt it's going to stop you from gaining muscle
The problem is that your body uses different calories for different things. Having a high ratio of carbs and fat in comparison to protein for example may mean that you continue to gain muscle, but you also gain fat... this is why a lot of heavy weight lifters have ugly, fat looking bodies.
It's also not terribly effective for losing weight for several reasons... yes if you are eating at a calorie deficit you will lose weight, but: Having bad protein carb fat ratios will make the process slower. You will also be more likely to binge because your body isn't getting what it needs, so you're still hungry and you eat more. This is the result of empty calories.
Strictly speaking IIFYM works but there are a lot of things that have to bet taken into consideration.
I guess now is a good time for a proper introduction of myself after lurking here and randomly posting from time to time. I'm 5 feet 9 (175cm) and turning 21 officially tomorrow. High school days were full of bro curls and bench pressing like a typical teen male, didn't even learn to squat until just last month. Thinking back, it's really no wonder why I'm so weak now. Oh well, another year older, another year stronger - i hope.
Goals to reach before starting second year of university (September 1st) Current weight: 143lbs (64.8kg), Weight goal: 150lbs (68kg) Bench press: 145lbs -> 160lbs Squat: 125lbs -> 200lbs Deadlift: 160lbs -> 240lbs Shoulder press: 95lbs -> 115lbs Clean and jerk: 95lbs -> 115lbs
Had another rugby tournament..showed up under a different name with different jerseys and our first game was against the team that we lost to in the finals in our previous tournament. They werent happy to see us and even less happy when we beat them Raised a few eyebros. Dominated our next game, had a bye, and then lost in the semi-finals (pretty upset, first time i havent made it to a championship game in a 7's tournament T_T) Cant wait to hit the gym tomorrow!
@Mesheit welcome! @Sjarl 10kg jumps in prs are always awesome! nice job
On July 10 2011 13:26 Malinor wrote: WAT, blood sugar at 88mg/dl this morning. That is the lowest value I have ever had since diagnosed with diabetes mellitus 4 years ago, and I already cut back on my medication. If I can continue eating and exercising like this for a couple more weeks, I can probably get rid of those stupid pills altogether.
The inspiration I find in this thread is just mind-boggling, thanks a lot guys.
Living awesome lifestyle and being awesome person > silly things like diseases. Keep it up malinor! (and kill that last liter of soda a day, just fucking stop. you don't need it and once you go a week without one you wont even want one. I don't remember the last time in years i had a soda (besides with alcohol :p) You can do it!)
On July 09 2011 09:46 RemedySC wrote: Squat 160lb 3x5 Bench press 100lbs 3x5 Dead lift 155lbs 3x5 175lbs 1x1
Here is a video of my last set of squats, definitely needs more work. Going to try harder every time now though!
Get lower and stay tight! I'd probably go down a bit in weight. Maybe get some gym shorts too
On July 10 2011 03:33 infinity21 wrote: So I just went to the gym and did 4 sets each of: Bench press 115 lb Incline press? (bench press on like 45 degree angle) 85 lb Leg press 340 lb
Just trying to figure out how much I can lift so my leg press went from 250 lb on the first set to 340 on the 4th lol My upper body is weak as shit tho T_T
I didn't want to do squats because I didn't know the proper form I'm gonna read up SS now and figure out what to do so I'm ready next time :D
IMO ditch the leg press and get squatting! Baptism by fire baby. Just start super light weight, there's more than enough reading online and youtube videos for you to get the right idea. video form checks are always helpful too
On July 10 2011 05:12 AoN.DimSum wrote: wow a restaurant where i live sells grass fed burgers.
Feeling really great going paleo this week. Went camping and was able to stay away from all the junk food that was made available. Slipped up twice in the last two weeks, both times when the family went out to eat. So no more going out for me if I can't keep myself clean!
EPT
FML!
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Raised a few eyebros. Dominated our next game, had a bye, and then lost in the semi-finals (pretty upset, first time i havent made it to a championship game in a 7's tournament T_T)
