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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
May 31 2011 18:54 GMT
#6381
On June 01 2011 03:23 Snapplecakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 02:25 Seeker wrote:
Supposed to hit the gym with my friend in about 4 hours.

But I just woke up. I slept past breakfast, and I'm not hungry for lunch. But I know I'm gonna need substance for energy.

What should I eat? Something that can give me enough fuel to not feel tired in the gym plz.


dont fool yourself by thinking that you "have" to eat before a workout, if you have BCAAS handy you could always work out fasted and have a nice feast after your workout sine its more than likely to stimulate your hunger


I've never had a good workout when I'm fasted. All of fall semester, I had a "weightlifting class" (got a credit; never learned a thing. Ended up TEACHING deadlift and bench form by the end of it) at 8 am three days a week. At least one day a week I'd wake up late and miss breakfast. Even if I wasn't hungry on the way their, by halfway through my squats I was just entirely DRAINED. Regardless of how much I -want- to lift, I can't get the same quality workout when I'm fasted. Eventually I started eating a banana and a protein shake on the bus before class for breakfast, or even getting a dunkin' donuts sandwich before class - only time I've ever drank protein shakes.

I don't have problems fasting any other time, just before workouts. I like to eat an hour to three hours before I lift. Three hours if I'm going to play basketball.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
May 31 2011 18:56 GMT
#6382
On June 01 2011 00:31 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 22:32 x2fst wrote:
sinep, just just friendly advice, your abs probably won't look like they do when flexed that without a slight posture change. you appear to have a few degrees of anterior pelvic tilt that will limit the visibility of your abs no matter how lean you get. it's often related to tight hip flexors (front) and/or weak hip extensors (back), stuff like stiffleg deads might help in combination with a conscious effort to correct it when you walk etc, as well as concentrating on a tight posterior chain when you do basic lifts (dl/sqaut/ohp). having bigger abs would help too obviously, high reps do more for hypertrophy than higher 1rm generally so doing a bunch of crunches will be as good as anything else

keep in mind that it's not even close to being bad enough that you'll suffer healthwise from it, just saying that if you're after aesthetics then you're probably at the pt where correcting that issue is a better option than trying to reach a lower bf level


actually, this is something I haven't really thought of until you mentioned it. my posture is pretty shitty, and I should try to be more conscious about it daily.
would you recommend any of the exercises here in an attempt to fix it somewhat?: http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2009/11/5-simple-exercises-for-correcting.html

I'm glad you pointed this out, and I always listen to friendly advice

@ FFgen yeah it's reps x set. I edited the post for clarification of that now

Depending on how serious you are about overhauling your posture: this is a pretty amazing book on it. It talks about how modern humans stand incorrectly, and how it affects everything from our digestion to our bone health to even emotions. It doesn't give active exercises for improving your posture so much as teaches you how to sit/stand/lie down. I really recommend it.
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
May 31 2011 19:40 GMT
#6383
On June 01 2011 03:56 Ingenol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 00:31 Sinep wrote:
On May 31 2011 22:32 x2fst wrote:
sinep, just just friendly advice, your abs probably won't look like they do when flexed that without a slight posture change. you appear to have a few degrees of anterior pelvic tilt that will limit the visibility of your abs no matter how lean you get. it's often related to tight hip flexors (front) and/or weak hip extensors (back), stuff like stiffleg deads might help in combination with a conscious effort to correct it when you walk etc, as well as concentrating on a tight posterior chain when you do basic lifts (dl/sqaut/ohp). having bigger abs would help too obviously, high reps do more for hypertrophy than higher 1rm generally so doing a bunch of crunches will be as good as anything else

keep in mind that it's not even close to being bad enough that you'll suffer healthwise from it, just saying that if you're after aesthetics then you're probably at the pt where correcting that issue is a better option than trying to reach a lower bf level


actually, this is something I haven't really thought of until you mentioned it. my posture is pretty shitty, and I should try to be more conscious about it daily.
would you recommend any of the exercises here in an attempt to fix it somewhat?: http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2009/11/5-simple-exercises-for-correcting.html

I'm glad you pointed this out, and I always listen to friendly advice

@ FFgen yeah it's reps x set. I edited the post for clarification of that now

Depending on how serious you are about overhauling your posture: this is a pretty amazing book on it. It talks about how modern humans stand incorrectly, and how it affects everything from our digestion to our bone health to even emotions. It doesn't give active exercises for improving your posture so much as teaches you how to sit/stand/lie down. I really recommend it.


Sounds interesting. I like looking into that sort of thing. You know the kind of body mechanics stuff that a lot of people take for granted but can really have an effect on health or performance to a certain degree.

I did a similar type of thing back in high school to college in correcting my walking gait and posture. I used to walk like a total slob (that's really the only way to put it). Dragging my feet or kicking my toes out and scraping my heels a lot and letting my feet hit the floor with a loud "thwomp" or "thwack" if I was barefoot.

I don't have any real literature on walking postures and gaits beyond what I read/learned in the martial arts classes I was taking at the time. I basically started walking with a more martial or ready stance; toes pointed forward, using less heel, pushing off with my toes for power. Led to a more powerful stride, straighter back, and better knees. Also since I was basically going around all day practicing a stance used in my particular martial art I noticed improvements in quickness and balance while sparring.

Point is, those types of things are important and I feel massively overlooked by many people. Even today when I see someone who is obviously very fit looking I analyze their walk and posture. If they walk like "goombas" or slouch or something I wonder how they can carry themselves like that so inefficiently or whatever.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
May 31 2011 20:07 GMT
#6384
Feeling full after 2 cups of milk and a hamburger with a single piece of cheese. Wtf happened. I need to bulk again.

Max squat tomorrow. Hell yeah!
Victory Loves Preparation
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
May 31 2011 20:38 GMT
#6385
Word, bout to lift then cut the grass then eat a bunch of MEAT.

Too bad it's almost 100 degrees outside right now. I fucking hate hot weather.

Maybe a powerclean form check video or two later.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
May 31 2011 22:10 GMT
#6386
>Work all day lifting boxes.
>Help friend move furniture down 5 stories
>Get home, exhausted, only to find out GF is making bbq, bacon cheesburgers
>Love my life
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 22:21:53
May 31 2011 22:19 GMT
#6387
ty eshlow. I will have a long discussion today.

I moved furniture yesterday. Felt not weak. (although I still am lol)

Right now we are having a huge tree in our backyard removed. The guy climbing the tree is soooo built. He's got a gut, but he's lifting what would seem to be like 250 pounds of tree (and tree isn't exactly a barbell) over a shoulder.

By the way I do ahve anterior pelvic tilt.

What should I do to correct it? ( is http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2009/11/5-simple-exercises-for-correcting.html as posted above good? )
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4733 Posts
May 31 2011 22:26 GMT
#6388
Squat: 170kg 5-5-5
Bench: 70kg 5-5-5
Deadlift: 185kg 4

I wanted to finish this squat session so badly, the last two days I did nothing but sleep, eat and rest. With the more narrow olympic-style stance, my squats feel sooooo much better. I can go deeper, I have higher velocity and it even feels better on my knees. I believe now that I have 2-3 still 2,5kg jumps in me. One guy, which I had never seen before and who looked a little bit like Froadac, watched me and just looked scared, that was quite funny.
Bench still easy, but I need to speed my reps up a litte, no need to go slow.
Deadlift, yeah, it's definitely my grip holding me back, but I don't really know how to tackle that problem right now. I got the weight all the way up during the last rep, but I couldn'tt lock it out, because the weight slowly slips out of my hand. But to be fair, I had like a 20 seconds pause between the forth and fifth rep anyway and the forth rep probably wasn't really looked out either, the weight was just a little bit too much... for now
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 31 2011 22:42 GMT
#6389
Haha. I could be that guy, if I wasn't in the united states >.>
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
May 31 2011 22:54 GMT
#6390
An anterior tilted pelvis isn't a problem and is actually the way the human spine is designed. Modern posture and slumping has actually caused most people's spines to have too much of an S curve though. Usually instead of an anterior tilted pelvis (curvature very low in your spine, L5-S1) we have an overly swayed lower back. The effect is similar--your butt sticks out--but the swayed back puts the curvature higher up your spine in a manner that goes against optimal skeletal structure.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 31 2011 23:01 GMT
#6391
On June 01 2011 07:26 Malinor wrote:
Squat: 170kg 5-5-5
Bench: 70kg 5-5-5
Deadlift: 185kg 4

I wanted to finish this squat session so badly, the last two days I did nothing but sleep, eat and rest. With the more narrow olympic-style stance, my squats feel sooooo much better. I can go deeper, I have higher velocity and it even feels better on my knees. I believe now that I have 2-3 still 2,5kg jumps in me. One guy, which I had never seen before and who looked a little bit like Froadac, watched me and just looked scared, that was quite funny.
Bench still easy, but I need to speed my reps up a litte, no need to go slow.
Deadlift, yeah, it's definitely my grip holding me back, but I don't really know how to tackle that problem right now. I got the weight all the way up during the last rep, but I couldn'tt lock it out, because the weight slowly slips out of my hand. But to be fair, I had like a 20 seconds pause between the forth and fifth rep anyway and the forth rep probably wasn't really looked out either, the weight was just a little bit too much... for now


monstrous # for squats shit

GJ scaring little children
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Anabolicqt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 00:01:39
May 31 2011 23:59 GMT
#6392
On June 01 2011 02:22 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 07:40 dreamsmasher wrote:
On May 31 2011 04:24 Manimal_pro wrote:
i have a questions for you guys, can you help me with some ideas to increase my carb and protein intake without requiring anything to be cooked? ideally something you buy straight of the shelves of the grocery store. i'm looking more specifically for snacks in between meals that will assist in bulking up


whey protein + skim milk.

if you can't take dairy, or just don't like it i suggest soy milk or almond milk. tbh nonsweetened soy milk + chocolate flavored protein mix is probably the best combination, it tastes WAY better.

the only shitty thing about protein powder is the fact that chocolate is the only decent flavor (although cookies & cream is pretty decent too). strawberry and vanilla taste just godawful.

also have you tried freezing bananas (skin them first obviously). afterwards blend it and you pretty much have somehing that tastes very similar to banana ice cream, but pretty healthy. you can mix shit in too (nuts, jam, etc..) obviously don't overdo it, but its definitely a good snack that is as healthy as you make it.

other recommendations:

chipotle burrito bowl no sour cream no extra cheese + all the veggies. amazing well rounded meal.
subway salad bowl.
meat jerky
frozen fruit (buy a whole big bag for like $7, i just eat them and let them melt in my mouth).



You do know that milk has a combo of whey and casein, right? Adding whey to milk is redundant.


What's your reasoning for that eshlow? Milk alone has like what , 8-10g of protein per serving? Doesn't seem enough to grow if he's not eating food at that point.

@dimsum - Your fitocracy is redonculous
Eat, Sleep, Lift......Repeat.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
June 01 2011 00:00 GMT
#6393
On June 01 2011 07:26 Malinor wrote:
Squat: 170kg 5-5-5
Bench: 70kg 5-5-5
Deadlift: 185kg 4

I wanted to finish this squat session so badly, the last two days I did nothing but sleep, eat and rest. With the more narrow olympic-style stance, my squats feel sooooo much better. I can go deeper, I have higher velocity and it even feels better on my knees. I believe now that I have 2-3 still 2,5kg jumps in me. One guy, which I had never seen before and who looked a little bit like Froadac, watched me and just looked scared, that was quite funny.
Bench still easy, but I need to speed my reps up a litte, no need to go slow.
Deadlift, yeah, it's definitely my grip holding me back, but I don't really know how to tackle that problem right now. I got the weight all the way up during the last rep, but I couldn'tt lock it out, because the weight slowly slips out of my hand. But to be fair, I had like a 20 seconds pause between the forth and fifth rep anyway and the forth rep probably wasn't really looked out either, the weight was just a little bit too much... for now


Great stuff!

How do you grip the bar? Double-overhand or mixed? If former => switch to mixed. If latter => do some high rep (15-20) deads for several weeks and it wont be a problem for a long time
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 01 2011 00:06 GMT
#6394
Incontrol said that cardio is for pansy men on inside the game.

:D
Anabolicqt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States69 Posts
June 01 2011 00:07 GMT
#6395
Cardio is mostly what I do these days
Eat, Sleep, Lift......Repeat.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 01 2011 00:23 GMT
#6396
Lol.

Admittedly cardio is my strong suit. Although you can look at my picture and laugh, I could run a reasonable 6:30 mile.

o.o
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20143 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 01:15:42
June 01 2011 01:14 GMT
#6397
I need to get on the cardio train hard core, my conditioning is lacking to say the least. Need to be in top rugby shape in the next month or so. I think i'm taking the week off. Lifted last friday and probably won't lift again till friday. Hopefully by then i wont feel so damn tired. Haven't taken a week off to recover in probably over 18 months


On June 01 2011 07:26 Malinor wrote:
Squat: 170kg 5-5-5
Bench: 70kg 5-5-5
Deadlift: 185kg 4

I wanted to finish this squat session so badly, the last two days I did nothing but sleep, eat and rest. With the more narrow olympic-style stance, my squats feel sooooo much better. I can go deeper, I have higher velocity and it even feels better on my knees. I believe now that I have 2-3 still 2,5kg jumps in me. One guy, which I had never seen before and who looked a little bit like Froadac, watched me and just looked scared, that was quite funny.
Bench still easy, but I need to speed my reps up a litte, no need to go slow.
Deadlift, yeah, it's definitely my grip holding me back, but I don't really know how to tackle that problem right now. I got the weight all the way up during the last rep, but I couldn'tt lock it out, because the weight slowly slips out of my hand. But to be fair, I had like a 20 seconds pause between the forth and fifth rep anyway and the forth rep probably wasn't really looked out either, the weight was just a little bit too much... for now


Starting to scare me malinor!

edit: lol wish i kept my fitocracy up to date (hate converting kg to pounds since i picked the wrong measurements rofl), i'd probably be way up there with dim sum. It really favors oly lifting and since i do more weight (even though not per bodyweight) i'd probably be crushing it lol.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 01 2011 01:27 GMT
#6398
I think I hurt my right knee walking/jogging barefoot yesterday; not sure if that's the (sole) cause, but I haven't done much since.

What should I do in addition to resting it out?

I think it's the area around "eroding cartilage"
[image loading]

Anyway, I still attempted to do a half-decent workout today, acknowledging the pain in my knee:

Squat:
185 lb x 5 x 1
It wasn't too painful, but I didn't want to risk it going higher.

Press:
140 lb x 3 x 3

Clean:
145 lb x 3 x 1
165 lb x 3 x 1
Felt a sharp pain during the last set, and stopped.

Chin-up:
8-7-6


On June 01 2011 10:14 decafchicken wrote:
I need to get on the cardio train hard core, my conditioning is lacking to say the least. Need to be in top rugby shape in the next month or so. I think i'm taking the week off. Lifted last friday and probably won't lift again till friday. Hopefully by then i wont feel so damn tired. Haven't taken a week off to recover in probably over 18 months


Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 07:26 Malinor wrote:
Squat: 170kg 5-5-5
Bench: 70kg 5-5-5
Deadlift: 185kg 4

I wanted to finish this squat session so badly, the last two days I did nothing but sleep, eat and rest. With the more narrow olympic-style stance, my squats feel sooooo much better. I can go deeper, I have higher velocity and it even feels better on my knees. I believe now that I have 2-3 still 2,5kg jumps in me. One guy, which I had never seen before and who looked a little bit like Froadac, watched me and just looked scared, that was quite funny.
Bench still easy, but I need to speed my reps up a litte, no need to go slow.
Deadlift, yeah, it's definitely my grip holding me back, but I don't really know how to tackle that problem right now. I got the weight all the way up during the last rep, but I couldn'tt lock it out, because the weight slowly slips out of my hand. But to be fair, I had like a 20 seconds pause between the forth and fifth rep anyway and the forth rep probably wasn't really looked out either, the weight was just a little bit too much... for now


Starting to scare me malinor!

edit: lol wish i kept my fitocracy up to date (hate converting kg to pounds since i picked the wrong measurements rofl), i'd probably be way up there with dim sum. It really favors oly lifting and since i do more weight (even though not per bodyweight) i'd probably be crushing it lol.

you can change it under settings, i think
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 01:33:10
June 01 2011 01:30 GMT
#6399
@analbolic you will catch up to me soon

@decaf you can go to settings and change it to metric.


On June 01 2011 10:31 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
I totally love being vegetarian. It's just a super healthy lifestyle that has yet to take hold in the mainstream of society but other will soon follow when they realize that vegetarians don't get cancer or die young.


LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOO
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 01:37:52
June 01 2011 01:33 GMT
#6400
On June 01 2011 09:23 Froadac wrote:
Lol.

Admittedly cardio is my strong suit. Although you can look at my picture and laugh, I could run a reasonable 6:30 mile.

o.o


Froadac I'm sure there's people here that can throw you a mile.

But seriously, incontrol is beast. And my camera died So no powerclean form check. I probably could have used it too LoL.

Had overall strange workout session. My squats are doing great. Never really have major problems with those. In fact, like I mentioned before; I seem to be getting a lot more overall "umph". I'm not really sure what I did to change that. Maybe I started to look up a little bit more since it's easier for me to breathe that way. But I'm surprised that changed my performance so much tbh. Especially at the end of the movement. I pop that bar up like crazy. So fast that on my first work set rep the bar bounced and slid down my back because I wasn't even expecting such an explosive finish.

I reset my press. Was having shoulder issues all this weekend and I was probably going to fail press at 100lbs for the 2nd time today anyway. So whatever instead of bullshitting and probably resetting next week I gave my shoulder a rest and just did 75lbs.

Powercleans were all over the place. After making what I thought was pretty good progress on them last week I felt like I was all over the place with them today. Maybe I was timid because of the shoulder but it really wasn't affected by the lift. My wrist did tighten up at some point with carpal tunnel like pains which made bending it and racking somewhat scary. I guess I was just overall timid and dumb.

Whatever, I love squats. But I need to work on upper body.

Oh, and I did some fartlekking after my workout too. Felt good. But there's too many damned late-night dog walkers in my neighborhood so I feel like an asshole when I tear past them at high speed and the dogs all strain on their leashes and pull their owners around.
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