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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
May 31 2011 13:51 GMT
#6361
Meh pretty frustrated now :-(

So last week Monday I went to the gym even though I felt extremely tired after a 13 hour work day with barely any sleep before that. Turned out to be the best workout day so far. Broke through 80kg squat I was failing at the week before and went up to 100kg DL.

However next gym day I failed the squats again, and my lower back really hurt after that. It continued to hurt the next two days so I skipped squats the next day and just did upper body.

After that and until yesterday I was feeling fine and so I carefully did squats again. But my lower back began to hurt again after the first work set :-( I read the "So you hurt your lower back" article linked somewhere here but none of the sections seem to describe what I am experiencing. As much as I'd like to continue I guess I will have to rest for a while on squats and DL.

---

Totally unrelated: What's the deal with whole and skim milk you guys are talking about? I only know milk and low fat milk, but I guess that is not what you guys mean?
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 31 2011 13:54 GMT
#6362
Sinep, just checking those are sets x reps, ie 5 sets of 3 reps fr ur squat? Or am I the one who has it middled

Muddled

Wud congrat u but pix arnt loading, on my phone at least!!


Yeah, I'm getting more confident abt askin for spotter now: )
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 14:04:22
May 31 2011 13:59 GMT
#6363
whole milk = 3.5% butterfat (vollmilch)
skim milk = 0-0.5% butterfat (magermilch)

low fat milk is usually between 1-2% butterfat
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Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
May 31 2011 15:17 GMT
#6364
On May 31 2011 22:54 FFGenerations wrote:
Sinep, just checking those are sets x reps, ie 5 sets of 3 reps fr ur squat? Or am I the one who has it middled


its 5 reps and 3 sets
SQUATS AND OATS!
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
May 31 2011 15:28 GMT
#6365
crazy workout today

25C+ outside
2h workout, prob overheated my body a bit, ice cold shower after? Perfekt!
Lost over 3kg in progress!! Need to drink+eat now :D
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ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
May 31 2011 15:31 GMT
#6366
On May 31 2011 22:32 x2fst wrote:
sinep, just just friendly advice, your abs probably won't look like they do when flexed that without a slight posture change. you appear to have a few degrees of anterior pelvic tilt that will limit the visibility of your abs no matter how lean you get. it's often related to tight hip flexors (front) and/or weak hip extensors (back), stuff like stiffleg deads might help in combination with a conscious effort to correct it when you walk etc, as well as concentrating on a tight posterior chain when you do basic lifts (dl/sqaut/ohp). having bigger abs would help too obviously, high reps do more for hypertrophy than higher 1rm generally so doing a bunch of crunches will be as good as anything else

keep in mind that it's not even close to being bad enough that you'll suffer healthwise from it, just saying that if you're after aesthetics then you're probably at the pt where correcting that issue is a better option than trying to reach a lower bf level


actually, this is something I haven't really thought of until you mentioned it. my posture is pretty shitty, and I should try to be more conscious about it daily.
would you recommend any of the exercises here in an attempt to fix it somewhat?: http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2009/11/5-simple-exercises-for-correcting.html

I'm glad you pointed this out, and I always listen to friendly advice

@ FFgen yeah it's reps x set. I edited the post for clarification of that now
Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 15:44:04
May 31 2011 15:42 GMT
#6367

On May 31 2011 22:51 zatic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Meh pretty frustrated now :-(

So last week Monday I went to the gym even though I felt extremely tired after a 13 hour work day with barely any sleep before that. Turned out to be the best workout day so far. Broke through 80kg squat I was failing at the week before and went up to 100kg DL.

However next gym day I failed the squats again, and my lower back really hurt after that. It continued to hurt the next two days so I skipped squats the next day and just did upper body.

After that and until yesterday I was feeling fine and so I carefully did squats again. But my lower back began to hurt again after the first work set :-( I read the "So you hurt your lower back" article linked somewhere here but none of the sections seem to describe what I am experiencing. As much as I'd like to continue I guess I will have to rest for a while on squats and DL.

---

Totally unrelated: What's the deal with whole and skim milk you guys are talking about? I only know milk and low fat milk, but I guess that is not what you guys mean?




did your get a dull pain or sting in your lower back at any time during your deadlift session? happend to me once and i had to take 2 weeks off before my back healed
SQUATS AND OATS!
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
May 31 2011 16:10 GMT
#6368
Dalguno
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Starting Date:Today || Goal Date: September 1st (when school starts)
Weight goals -- Down to at least 170, 163 ultimate goal weight
Training goals -- Gym 3x/week, get benching back up to 195 lbs
Nutrition goals -- Paleo style diet, not grains whatsoever. They make me feel sick, and I eat to many of them when I do eat them. Any tips for eating this way are appreciated!
Misc goals -- Need to get my eagle scout this summer as well.
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MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
May 31 2011 16:42 GMT
#6369
Man, my brother coming home and me being sick for a week really threw off my lifts more than I thought haha. I think I'm going to wind up resetting everything but squats and powercleans. Hurt my shoulder at the beach the other day somehow, so good idea to take it easy on presses for a while. I was about to reset anyway so no big deal. My deadlift has sucked for the last few sessions so I might as well reset that too.

Only lift I feel comfortable with atm is squat. And powerclean I'm pulling lighter weight anyway because I started really light to work on form.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
May 31 2011 16:44 GMT
#6370
On June 01 2011 00:42 Snapplecakes wrote:

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 22:51 zatic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Meh pretty frustrated now :-(

So last week Monday I went to the gym even though I felt extremely tired after a 13 hour work day with barely any sleep before that. Turned out to be the best workout day so far. Broke through 80kg squat I was failing at the week before and went up to 100kg DL.

However next gym day I failed the squats again, and my lower back really hurt after that. It continued to hurt the next two days so I skipped squats the next day and just did upper body.

After that and until yesterday I was feeling fine and so I carefully did squats again. But my lower back began to hurt again after the first work set :-( I read the "So you hurt your lower back" article linked somewhere here but none of the sections seem to describe what I am experiencing. As much as I'd like to continue I guess I will have to rest for a while on squats and DL.

---

Totally unrelated: What's the deal with whole and skim milk you guys are talking about? I only know milk and low fat milk, but I guess that is not what you guys mean?




did your get a dull pain or sting in your lower back at any time during your deadlift session? happend to me once and i had to take 2 weeks off before my back healed

Yeah something like that only that I can't really locate it. It's really my whol lower back hurts after DL / squat.

Two weeks TT. Gym feels so pointless without squats. There is only so many presses, dips, and pullups I can do.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
May 31 2011 16:50 GMT
#6371
i hurt myself going for a max DL which was really stupid.. i thought my back was perfect but it wasnt and thats when the injury happend.. 1 week after it still felt like i was super sore.. my suggestion is that you take 1-2 weeks off, you really do NOT gain much from pushing yourself into something when youre injured, can only potentially hurt you more..

just go back and attack those squats and DLs with the same energy as now, and watch your back
SQUATS AND OATS!
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 31 2011 16:55 GMT
#6372
Dimsum tearing up fitocracy haha
It seems to be favoring a lot of sets over reps, i.e. 5x1 will give you a lot more points than 1x5 at the same weight (although isn't 1x5 harder?). So oly lifting is clearly the way to reach the top; lots of singles and doubles :D
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
May 31 2011 17:01 GMT
#6373
yeah I get over 2000pts a session. I think I only posted like 2-3 weeks of workouts. LOL
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inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
May 31 2011 17:08 GMT
#6374
How do you count those points? Is there anything i missed out?
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 31 2011 17:19 GMT
#6375
On May 31 2011 08:06 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 07:58 Alventenie wrote:
On May 31 2011 06:29 Froadac wrote:
On May 31 2011 06:27 decafchicken wrote:
On May 31 2011 06:14 Froadac wrote:
Lol. =/

I drink whole milk.

Mom looks at fat forming ring around top.

Mom says I can't have whole.

So rational.


obvious solution RAW MILK.

but really did you show your scientist of a mother the study bomb eshlow dropped?

Yes.

This is what happened.

1) No. It's not what I learned in pharmacy school.

2) Meh, that is a lot of shit.

3) No I talked to a doctor and he said it's terrible.

4) No, that's a lot of studies.

5) I forgot what whole milk was like, so no.

Also cba to fill out the fitocracy thing lol.



TBH the best answer you can give to your mom that she can't really fight against is what did she breast feed you with? Whole milk or Skim milk? You were fed whole milk probably unless she had a deficiency that didn't let her lactate properly. It provides the highest amount of nutrients that your body needs, i dunno why she has such a hard time figuring that out =/.

But I'll get fat.

And they taught her that whole milk was bad in 1984.

I can't find that echlow nuke of whole milk information now :/ Do any of you guys have it saved?


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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 31 2011 17:22 GMT
#6376
On May 31 2011 07:40 dreamsmasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 04:24 Manimal_pro wrote:
i have a questions for you guys, can you help me with some ideas to increase my carb and protein intake without requiring anything to be cooked? ideally something you buy straight of the shelves of the grocery store. i'm looking more specifically for snacks in between meals that will assist in bulking up


whey protein + skim milk.

if you can't take dairy, or just don't like it i suggest soy milk or almond milk. tbh nonsweetened soy milk + chocolate flavored protein mix is probably the best combination, it tastes WAY better.

the only shitty thing about protein powder is the fact that chocolate is the only decent flavor (although cookies & cream is pretty decent too). strawberry and vanilla taste just godawful.

also have you tried freezing bananas (skin them first obviously). afterwards blend it and you pretty much have somehing that tastes very similar to banana ice cream, but pretty healthy. you can mix shit in too (nuts, jam, etc..) obviously don't overdo it, but its definitely a good snack that is as healthy as you make it.

other recommendations:

chipotle burrito bowl no sour cream no extra cheese + all the veggies. amazing well rounded meal.
subway salad bowl.
meat jerky
frozen fruit (buy a whole big bag for like $7, i just eat them and let them melt in my mouth).



You do know that milk has a combo of whey and casein, right? Adding whey to milk is redundant.

And whole milk outperforms skim milk and isocaloric skim milk in regards to increasing protein synthesis.

See this for more details: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/#VD4


Also, I'd generally avoid soy milk. Almond milk is alright but it's straight up mass processed.

I'd generally say go protein shake, milk, or bust in regards to beverages.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 31 2011 17:23 GMT
#6377
On June 01 2011 01:44 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 00:42 Snapplecakes wrote:

On May 31 2011 22:51 zatic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Meh pretty frustrated now :-(

So last week Monday I went to the gym even though I felt extremely tired after a 13 hour work day with barely any sleep before that. Turned out to be the best workout day so far. Broke through 80kg squat I was failing at the week before and went up to 100kg DL.

However next gym day I failed the squats again, and my lower back really hurt after that. It continued to hurt the next two days so I skipped squats the next day and just did upper body.

After that and until yesterday I was feeling fine and so I carefully did squats again. But my lower back began to hurt again after the first work set :-( I read the "So you hurt your lower back" article linked somewhere here but none of the sections seem to describe what I am experiencing. As much as I'd like to continue I guess I will have to rest for a while on squats and DL.

---

Totally unrelated: What's the deal with whole and skim milk you guys are talking about? I only know milk and low fat milk, but I guess that is not what you guys mean?




did your get a dull pain or sting in your lower back at any time during your deadlift session? happend to me once and i had to take 2 weeks off before my back healed

Yeah something like that only that I can't really locate it. It's really my whol lower back hurts after DL / squat.

Two weeks TT. Gym feels so pointless without squats. There is only so many presses, dips, and pullups I can do.


Can you give a general area and what movements hurt?>

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
May 31 2011 17:25 GMT
#6378
Supposed to hit the gym with my friend in about 4 hours.

But I just woke up. I slept past breakfast, and I'm not hungry for lunch. But I know I'm gonna need substance for energy.

What should I eat? Something that can give me enough fuel to not feel tired in the gym plz.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 31 2011 17:49 GMT
#6379
Porridge is good for that , lightly cover a saucepan bottom wiv sum then boil wholst stirring, don't need much water jusr cover it. Don't stop stirring or itl burn. Discard pan afterwards
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Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
May 31 2011 18:23 GMT
#6380
On June 01 2011 02:25 Seeker wrote:
Supposed to hit the gym with my friend in about 4 hours.

But I just woke up. I slept past breakfast, and I'm not hungry for lunch. But I know I'm gonna need substance for energy.

What should I eat? Something that can give me enough fuel to not feel tired in the gym plz.


dont fool yourself by thinking that you "have" to eat before a workout, if you have BCAAS handy you could always work out fasted and have a nice feast after your workout sine its more than likely to stimulate your hunger
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