On May 14 2011 03:27 Warrior Madness wrote: [@LastChance: So is milk. Here's a protip. If you're not a milk drinker don't drink 8 glasses of milk all of the sudden at once and expect not to hate yourself the following day. Still really missing optimum whey atm cuz I hate stuffing my face with food.
i don't know about canadia, but in the states milk is like $3-$4/gallon (at least where i live) and yea. drinking a ton of milk will totally make you vomit
Not sure what u mean with hook grip, but I grab it between my fingers and my hands (over and under grip obv). I used to pick it at my palm before (6 months ago), but I picked this habit from snatching kettlebells (same place u receive the bell in downward movement). I feel my grip a lot more safe now.
Guy recommended me while I was doing powercleans to use the hook grip and catch the weight with 2-3 fingers. The hook grip is when you put your middle finger over your thumbnail and lock that into place. I think you let the bar hang on your fingers and not your palm. He told me to put the thumb over the nail of the middle finger though, to lock the weight into place. The powercleans actually felt so much easier when I did that.
@LastChance: So is milk. Here's a protip. If you're not a milk drinker don't drink 8 glasses of milk all of the sudden at once and expect not to hate yourself the following day. Still really missing optimum whey atm cuz I hate stuffing my face with food.
I haven't started deadlifting since I picked up oly lifting but yeah I hook grip for cleans and snatches. I usually deadlift with mixed grip. Milk is 2$/gal here :D been drinking almost a gallon a day with no problems (yay lactase)
560 gr of ground beef, 200 gr of low fat bacon, cheddar cheese and alot of other GOOD shit!
eat up guys!
low fat Bacon???
had a nice early 7am workout before work, did like 10 singles at 80 for snatch and a few cj at 110 and 130 as I ran out of time. Dimsum you should have yelled at me more for throwing my head back! lol jk but it was fucking up my speed under the bar and now I'm not triple extending the bar as much, getting a better S curve on my pull and getting under the bar faster.
show a video of your form! :D
I'll try, been lifting by myself. Can probably get vids/pics at the state meet in a week
i use hook grip on lat pulldown.. works great when you are at a high weight (trying to get to the point where i can do my weight on pulldown and start doing pullups)
does anybody know how much matting you need to drop bumper plates?
at the moment i only have 3/4" rubber mat on top of concrete. i'm debating on whether i have to build a lifting platform or not. my power clean is only 140# at the moment.
Hey guys, I don't read this thread often. But maybe I should as I need to lose a little beer roll I got in my tummy :x
Anyways, not the point. I see this thread is pretty big and it has very good discussion, but I know many people don't know about it, or don't want to read a billion pages to see if they like it or not :p
So, would any of you (specially those who post or read this very often) be interested in writing a little piece, once per month or so about fitness advice, things the average joe like me doesn't know, about eating habits, resting, exercise, etc to feature it into Pony Tales?
Feel free to PM me. It doesn't need to be a single guy, it could be a couple of you working together.
Sorry for the off topic, but I didn't really know who to PM of all of you
On May 14 2011 09:09 IntoTheWow wrote: Hey guys, I don't read this thread often. But maybe I should as I need to lose a little beer roll I got in my tummy :x
Anyways, not the point. I see this thread is pretty big and it has very good discussion, but I know many people don't know about it, or don't want to read a billion pages to see if they like it or not :p
So, would any of you (specially those who post or read this very often) be interested in writing a little piece, once per month or so about fitness advice, things the average joe like me doesn't know, about eating habits, resting, exercise, etc to feature it into Pony Tales?
Feel free to PM me. It doesn't need to be a single guy, it could be a couple of you working together.
Sorry for the off topic, but I didn't really know who to PM of all of you
Sounds perfect for Eshlow. He already has a blog as well lol. I'm sure the regulars here have a lot to say too :D
Also I searched it on the Starting Strength forum and Mark Ripptoe is neutral about the hook grip. If you can bear the pain at weights 400lb and above then go for it.
For developing grip strength however he recommends just using a double overhand grip for warm ups and resorting to a over and under when need be on your worksets. I think it's time for me to buy chalk. You should be using the overhand grip for as long as humanly possible.
On May 14 2011 09:09 IntoTheWow wrote: Hey guys, I don't read this thread often. But maybe I should as I need to lose a little beer roll I got in my tummy :x
Anyways, not the point. I see this thread is pretty big and it has very good discussion, but I know many people don't know about it, or don't want to read a billion pages to see if they like it or not :p
So, would any of you (specially those who post or read this very often) be interested in writing a little piece, once per month or so about fitness advice, things the average joe like me doesn't know, about eating habits, resting, exercise, etc to feature it into Pony Tales?
Feel free to PM me. It doesn't need to be a single guy, it could be a couple of you working together.
Sorry for the off topic, but I didn't really know who to PM of all of you
Pretty awesome. Hopefully some of the pros here will jump on board :D And yes, we are anxiously awaiting word on a separate subforum. It would help a lot.
I have a question, I apologize if it's been asked before. Kind of hard to go through 267 pages of pure awesome. One of the things that discourages me from working out is that after a while the burn that you feel the day after seems to go away. This to me is kind of like the sign that says, "Yea, you worked out. Congratulations!" Now my question is two parts: Is this supposed to happen? Or does that just mean my routine isn't hard enough?
And if it's supposed to happen, how can I know if my routine is making progress or if it's not hard enough?
On May 14 2011 14:17 shinosai wrote: I have a question, I apologize if it's been asked before. Kind of hard to go through 267 pages of pure awesome. One of the things that discourages me from working out is that after a while the burn that you feel the day after seems to go away. This to me is kind of like the sign that says, "Yea, you worked out. Congratulations!" Now my question is two parts: Is this supposed to happen? Or does that just mean my routine isn't hard enough?
And if it's supposed to happen, how can I know if my routine is making progress or if it's not hard enough?
It is suppose to happen, you won't feel it as much later on though.
It is a good thing that the "burn" happened, but if you don't eat enough your workout really wasn't to effective. Your routine can never really be not hard enough, as long as you are progressing steadily on your lifts you should be making gains.
On May 14 2011 14:17 shinosai wrote: I have a question, I apologize if it's been asked before. Kind of hard to go through 267 pages of pure awesome. One of the things that discourages me from working out is that after a while the burn that you feel the day after seems to go away. This to me is kind of like the sign that says, "Yea, you worked out. Congratulations!" Now my question is two parts: Is this supposed to happen? Or does that just mean my routine isn't hard enough?
And if it's supposed to happen, how can I know if my routine is making progress or if it's not hard enough?
Generally no matter what your body gets used to the motions that you put it through. So it adapts to the "burn" or soreness a little bit and you wind up feeling it less. Take this as a sign that your body is getting used to the activities that it is generally engaged in. This isn't really a bad thing. More like your body is getting used to those muscles firing during your workout and is more efficiently able to handle the stress. Which means you are making progress regardless.
OK. So I'm drunk and all I can think about is how I can improve my lifts next Monday LoL. I have a ton of questions that I'd like to sort through by then. Mostly due to my pretty shitty week of lifting this past week. First of all squats. I noticed this week that a +10 pace for squats everyday might become an issue. I backed off my squats for this week because of a shitty recovery on Tues, and I fudged my nutrition all this week too. I am hesitant to proceed at a +10 pace because of this. Is this a sign that I should be loading at a +5 pace? Or should I load +10 and wait for a fail and reset?
Also bench. I'm terrible at bench press. My arms are stupidly long so benching is by far the hardest workout for me. It feels dumb but at 135lbs I already feel like I need to start micro loading. To give some sort of perspective; my brother is 6'3" and I am 6'00". His arms are pretty damn long even for someone who is so tall and I measured my arms shoulder to wrist and they are a full 2" longer than his LoL. So it took me forever to realize that I need a veeeery wide grip on the bar in order to bench effectively. Does this also affect my loading? Should I just start progressing at 5 or even 2.5 lbs per workout in order to avoid an eventual stall and reset?
And what are the main muscle groups targeted for each type of standard pullup. I've been doing close grip overhand style for the past two weeks with the intention of switching it up every few weeks to hit different muscles a little harder. I'd like to focus on lats. Are wide grip pullups best for lats? What of the 5 main lifts in SS benefit most from lat strength? I assume DL?
As for pullups; my shoulders feel great since I've been doing a ton of close grip style. But my traps are nonexistent. Will concentrating on powercleans eventually lead to trap strength or can I start to think about supplementing it with shrugs? I feel like the weight I pull doing powercleans ATM is nowhere near the amount I'll need to actually start engaging my traps fully.
Man I had a lot more questions but I am forgetting them as I type this. I'll probably wake up tomorrow and remember a ton. Until then any feedback is appreciated!! :D
On May 14 2011 14:17 shinosai wrote: I have a question, I apologize if it's been asked before. Kind of hard to go through 267 pages of pure awesome. One of the things that discourages me from working out is that after a while the burn that you feel the day after seems to go away. This to me is kind of like the sign that says, "Yea, you worked out. Congratulations!" Now my question is two parts: Is this supposed to happen? Or does that just mean my routine isn't hard enough?
And if it's supposed to happen, how can I know if my routine is making progress or if it's not hard enough?
Generally no matter what your body gets used to the motions that you put it through. So it adapts to the "burn" or soreness a little bit and you wind up feeling it less. Take this as a sign that your body is getting used to the activities that it is generally engaged in. This isn't really a bad thing. More like your body is getting used to those muscles firing during your workout and is more efficiently able to handle the stress. Which means you are making progress regardless.
OK. So I'm drunk and all I can think about is how I can improve my lifts next Monday LoL. I have a ton of questions that I'd like to sort through by then. Mostly due to my pretty shitty week of lifting this past week. First of all squats. I noticed this week that a +10 pace for squats everyday might become an issue. I backed off my squats for this week because of a shitty recovery on Tues, and I fudged my nutrition all this week too. I am hesitant to proceed at a +10 pace because of this. Is this a sign that I should be loading at a +5 pace? Or should I load +10 and wait for a fail and reset?
Also bench. I'm terrible at bench press. My arms are stupidly long so benching is by far the hardest workout for me. It feels dumb but at 135lbs I already feel like I need to start micro loading. To give some sort of perspective; my brother is 6'3" and I am 6'00". His arms are pretty damn long even for someone who is so tall and I measured my arms shoulder to wrist and they are a full 2" longer than his LoL. So it took me forever to realize that I need a veeeery wide grip on the bar in order to bench effectively. Does this also affect my loading? Should I just start progressing at 5 or even 2.5 lbs per workout in order to avoid an eventual stall and reset?
And what are the main muscle groups targeted for each type of standard pullup. I've been doing close grip overhand style for the past two weeks with the intention of switching it up every few weeks to hit different muscles a little harder. I'd like to focus on lats. Are wide grip pullups best for lats? What of the 5 main lifts in SS benefit most from lat strength? I assume DL?
As for pullups; my shoulders feel great since I've been doing a ton of close grip style. But my traps are nonexistent. Will concentrating on powercleans eventually lead to trap strength or can I start to think about supplementing it with shrugs? I feel like the weight I pull doing powercleans ATM is nowhere near the amount I'll need to actually start engaging my traps fully.
Man I had a lot more questions but I am forgetting them as I type this. I'll probably wake up tomorrow and remember a ton. Until then any feedback is appreciated!! :D
Going to plus 5 on squats is totally fine, it would happen eventually. It took me exactly 47 days to go from 220lb to 330lb with 5lb increases. Since I assume that you are not as strong fat as me and won't be lifting the same amount of weight, you will still progress fast enough and reach your SS-max pretty soon.
Bench is not very different from OHP, and a lot of people in this thread have problems with progressing at the OHP. If you feel you have to microload early because it is a hard exercise for you, just do it. Pressing exercises can become very frustrating if you progress to quickly.
Deadlifts and Power Cleans are superb for Traps. If you want to to some assistance work here, I would suggest Power Shurgs. A very fun exercise and pretty effective. You will need straps though.
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