BTW, this thread DOES get pretty unfriendly to anyone's who's not specifically weight training for strength with the way we all jump on them saying "NO DO THIS INSTEAD."
I think it's primarily because the majority of people who hop into the thread without having read the history come in and post whatever program they are in love with / have results with, without properly framing their post with the goals people can achieve with the program they propose.
Instead of something like "Program A is great if you're somone like Person B who has properties C, D, and E, who wants to achieve goals F, G, and H," too often, the person chooses something like "Hey, Program A is great! I love it! you guys should do it too!"
edit: decided I'm not going to SS during lunch on weekdays while I work (my mind crashes 2 hours later when I do), but will work on my weakest lifts. So no squatting or deadlifting (will do those on saturday), mainly benching and military pressing, with consistent HIIT on the erg. (though I suck at rowing now and can't handle 1 min on, 1 min off so I'm copping out with 1 min on 2 min off). WHEEEE
On March 30 2011 13:17 Cambium wrote: ^ Isn't p90x more or less a fad workout plan? It's not bad in that it has a lot of cardio built in, but I don't think it'll give you nearly as much strength as SS.
I've only seen p90x on TV, and I don't know anyone who did it.
Hit the gym today, got 5-3-5 on 245 squats, which was pretty good, I was hoping to hit 5-5-5 though.
There are only three squat racks in the gym I go to, and two dudes were doing some sweet sweet bicep curls on two of them.
In terms of lifting then I don't think P90X should be your main focus. I got sucked into it by a couple of college soccer players who swore by it and just by my results I'll attest that it works wonderfully as long as you stick to it. It helped me cut fat and get lean, but compared to someone who's hitting the weights every day pushing for high numbers, I don't see it being a good substitute for that, but it would definitely help.
For someone who isn't going to put in the time to research and build their own program, tailored specifically to their own body (the majority of people) p90X is a very solid weight loss program. For people who are going to build a plan, but then probably not stick to it, p90X with a group of people is an extremely solid option. I know quite a few people, spread through all age groups that have used the program before, and, if they stick to it, have gotten exactly the results that were expected.
That said, it's a weight loss program. Not a lifting routine - Yeah, the majority of us who regularly post in this thread are focused on lifting/strength/size, but for the average american looking to lose 15-20 pounds in a way that's not crash dieting, it's a great option. With p90X you can go out, tell your friends what program you're doing, get them excited, get them into it with you, and hopefully you'll all stick to it, whereas with "paleo/SS/HIIT" like decaf mentioned, it's going to take an entirely different mindset. Not everyone is ready for that, and a lot of people are never going to be ready for something like that. If anything, p90X can help some people in the transition.
BTW, this thread DOES get pretty unfriendly to anyone's who's not specifically weight training for strength with the way we all jump on them saying "NO DO THIS INSTEAD."
I wouldn't say unfriendly...we just offer a different perspective that we find to be superior and it probably comes off rude and elitist. My main problem with p90x or other things like it is that its not optimal, and i hate wasting my time. Also it bothers me that we have someone spouting off "i didn't read anything about anything but p90x is awesome!" every 20 pages. That being said what it does is overall a good thing. It can get people off their asses, get into a healthy routine of working out and following a better diet which is AWESOME. But if someone comes in here that is serious about reworking their body composition for less fat and more muscle/strength, someone who goes on a 2 months of SS with a paleo diet followed by a month of proper cutting/HIIT will come out way ahead of someone who does 3 months of p90x. This TL initiative is a testament to what a proper basic barbell plan and some smart diet changes can do to your overall health, fitness, body, and self confidence which can be seen by the tons of people who post here everyday feeling better about them selves and doing things they might have never thought possible if we didn't all push each other a little in the right direction (the amount of 100kg+ squats in here is crazy compared to what it used to be! eshlow can do handstands as high as my house(to be fair he's always been awesome), and i never would have thought i could hold 300 pounds above my head)
On March 30 2011 13:17 Cambium wrote: ^ Isn't p90x more or less a fad workout plan? It's not bad in that it has a lot of cardio built in, but I don't think it'll give you nearly as much strength as SS.
I've only seen p90x on TV, and I don't know anyone who did it.
Hit the gym today, got 5-3-5 on 245 squats, which was pretty good, I was hoping to hit 5-5-5 though.
There are only three squat racks in the gym I go to, and two dudes were doing some sweet sweet bicep curls on two of them.
In terms of lifting then I don't think P90X should be your main focus. I got sucked into it by a couple of college soccer players who swore by it and just by my results I'll attest that it works wonderfully as long as you stick to it. It helped me cut fat and get lean, but compared to someone who's hitting the weights every day pushing for high numbers, I don't see it being a good substitute for that, but it would definitely help.
BTW, this thread DOES get pretty unfriendly to anyone's who's not specifically weight training for strength with the way we all jump on them saying "NO DO THIS INSTEAD."
gotta bump up my squat as well then. I really need lifting shoes to get ATG though, my flexibility is shit. as it is, i can hardly squat more than I can bench atm lul
I will attest to the advantages of barefoot squatting.
I used to struggle to progress past 210lb. Then I switched to barefoot, and it became a lot easier to make progress up to 260lb. It just feels a lot more stable.
great, now not only my arm is fucked up but the upper backside of my left thigh is as well... tried to squat but I had to stop because it hurt. the universe conspires against me reaching 140kg squat its probably "only" a light strain though. here's to hoping it will heal within a week or I might go crazy without squatting. I did some leg extensions and leg curls today to compensate but it just isnt the same T_T
on the bright side I managed 147.5kg deadlift (1x5). 2x bodyweight here I come!
@Zafrumi: Nice job, have you tried taking some magnesium citrate supplements? Really helps to heal any strains or injuries.
Okay I switched from working out in the evenings (10pm+) to the morning time and I just love it. I finished my workout at 8am today, early enough to catch the warmth of the sun on my face, and also cool enough to fan my boiling temple. It was damn refreshing. Also +1 for gf because I didn't have time to make sweet potato french fries before I left and I come home to a tender and juicy huge piece of steak to my surprise. For breakfast? Best pwo meal ever. Fuck the fruity shakes.
hm no I might pick some up after work today. thanks for the tip!
and yeah, working out in the morning can be good. but you have to be careful and make absolutely sure that you get enough sleep. because lack of sleep messes with your body like you would not believe! although now that I think about it, I think rippetoe said that your body is strongest like 3-11 hours after you wake up. so thats also something to keep in mind.
yay! been wanting to do teh bicept curls since forever, now i actually have a reason to do them - cause eshlow said so!
@eshlow: messed up my wrist doing dips about 5 days ago. still no significant improvement. can't do any pressing movements, not even push ups. pain is present when i rotate my wrist in either direction and there's also clicking with pronation. please see image below for affected area (red circle).
On March 29 2011 23:06 DoubleZee wrote: I started having a slight pain/discomfort on the outside of my right knee while running. I don't notice it until I set my pace above 6.5 MPH. I switched from running to cycling last week to give it some rest. I did an easy 5 mile run at around 6 MPH on friday and only had a little discomfort in the knee and some tightness in my calf. I tested it again on monday and I still can't go above 6.5 without that slight pain in the outside of my knee. It doesn't bother me at all when I run up stairs or cycle. Any idea wtf is wrong with me? i'm guessing it's just a poor form/overuse injury. How long should I rest it before testing it again?
What caused it?
Sounds like it could be IT band syndrome or patellofemoral (but I would only say that with <50% certainty b/c there ain't enough info).
If so do massage/soft tissue work/foam roll/stretching/etc. Stuff from page 4 here my help
I tweaked it during a run a couple weeks ago. I didn't think anything of it until it bothered me in my next run a couple days later. I thought it was just general soreness until it didn't go away after a week. From the quick research I did it does sound like an IT band issue. I'll check out that link when I get home from work. Thanks.
So I'm 90% sure I have IT band syndrome. Fuck this sucks. At least it's minor enough that I should be good to go in a few weeks. Looks like it's rest, ice, streches, and upper body exercises for now. Are there any leg exercises I can do that won't aggrivate it? Unfortunatly I don't have access to a pool so my cardio is gonna go to shit while it heals up. FFFUUUUUU
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its probably "only" a light strain though. here's to hoping it will heal within a week or I might go crazy without squatting. I did some leg extensions and leg curls today to compensate but it just isnt the same T_T![[image loading]](http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9116/wristr.jpg)
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