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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On September 29 2013 14:20 wei2coolman wrote: Common sense too hard, Neo plz spell out for Kupo. it is pretty hard, since neo's understanding of what champions work for each role is different than riot's for example, riot says fiora is a top lane but neo says its ok to run it mid too riot tells me that morgana is a mid but what about jungle or support? this is why we need a definitive "what is ok" list | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 29 2013 14:32 Kupon3ss wrote: it is pretty hard, since neo's understanding of what champions work for each role is different than riot's for example, riot says fiora is a top lane but neo says its ok to run it mid too riot tells me that morgana is a mid but what about jungle or support? this is why we need a definitive "what is ok" list Again, run with common sense. It should be pretty obvious >.> | ||
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Kupon3ss
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On September 29 2013 14:33 wei2coolman wrote: Again, run with common sense. It should be pretty obvious >.> apparently not for many of the people in this thread, myself included | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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Kupon3ss
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On September 29 2013 14:32 Kupon3ss wrote: it is pretty hard, since neo's understanding of what champions work for each role is different than riot's for example, riot says fiora is a top lane but neo says its ok to run it mid too riot tells me that morgana is a mid but what about jungle or support? this is why we need a definitive "what is ok" list TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL Don't take the bait guys this stuff is common sense T_T | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 29 2013 14:58 jaybrundage wrote: TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL Don't take the bait guys this stuff is common sense T_T Pretty much. The reason stuff like Fiora mid, is okay, is cuz Bruiser/melee assassins mid are a common enough occurrence, that it's useful to learn how to play against. Take Fiora as a less good version of Riven in lane, the way you want to play against it is pretty similar. Morgana support is allowed, because she offer obvious utility, and was often picked as a common support with the Draven combo. (though I think she's pretty trash now a days since draven is useless as fuck, and lux support is a superior version of morgana support at all times now, maybe it could be an anti-leona lane, but even then....) It should be fairly obvious what should, and shouldn't be allowed. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
The same common sense you just listed would say that it's perfectly fine. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 29 2013 15:12 Kupon3ss wrote: morgana jungle offers the same obvious utility with decent sustain via passive and reasonably fast waveclear, her ganks are reasonably good and dmg/ult is good throughout the game The same common sense you just listed would say that it's perfectly fine. It doesn't qualify "how does it help everyone if you play it?" Also, she's pretty fucking screwed in buff control situations. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Thanks. | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
+ ban attackspeed / movespeed graves + ban jungle graves + ban support graves (just in case) PS: ban 5 zeal master yi jungle + ban jungle leona + ban triforce blitzcrank support | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 29 2013 09:11 NeoIllusions wrote: Although unorthodox and technically goes against my guidelines, Morgana Support, Fiora Mid, Talon Mid are fine. I wouldn't be too annoyed if our users picked them. I don't understand why Morgana Jungle or Quinn Jungle would even being considered. I've given my reasoning in the OP. This one surprised me. Where would you put Talon? ôo Or do you mean it in a "Taric, Talon, Poppy, etc. are too weak even in their intended role so please don't pick them" way? | ||
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Kupon3ss
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On September 30 2013 05:25 Ketara wrote: A ban list would actually be doable. Given that most champions are approved for only 2 or less roles, its mathematically impossible for a ban list to be shorter than an "approved meta list". The fact is, meta is in the eye of the beholder, and the operator of such guidelines should really have a clear one in place if they believe strongly in enforcing it. For example, Neo has cited Fiora mid as something "technically against guidelines but not quite bannable yet" while Riot has cited Fiora mid as part of bannable offenses http://i.imgur.com/bbjKP.png Obviously I trust Neo far more than an year-old ban list, but it'd be nice to have something like that so I can understand the game better. | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 30 2013 06:14 Alaric wrote: This one surprised me. Where would you put Talon? ôo Or do you mean it in a "Taric, Talon, Poppy, etc. are too weak even in their intended role so please don't pick them" way? Talon crushes a lot of the old guard mids.... Honestly I wonder how he does against Zed/Ahri..... | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 30 2013 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote: Talon crushes a lot of the old guard mids.... Honestly I wonder how he does against Zed/Ahri..... skill match up against ahri pre 6. pretty much can 100-0 ahri with 1 cc from the jungler post 6. Very unforgiving against her. I don't like playing against talons as ahri  | ||
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