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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9239 Posts
April 04 2020 13:54 GMT
#13621
Is "they banned everything I play so I picked the new champ" in ranked bannable?
You're now breathing manually
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 04 2020 14:26 GMT
#13622
Sadly no, but I would still report them for intentionally feeding and negative attitude if it was clear they had 0 idea how their champ works.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
April 04 2020 16:04 GMT
#13623
On April 04 2020 22:54 Sent. wrote:
Is "they banned everything I play so I picked the new champ" in ranked bannable?

If they banned everything they play does it really make a difference if it's a new or old champion? At least on a new champion Rito usually make them OP.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9239 Posts
April 04 2020 17:05 GMT
#13624
I didn't report him, but it was quite frustrating to play a 20 minutes long 4v5 game because someone felt forced to check if full ap Fiddlesticks can work in the top lane.
You're now breathing manually
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4932 Posts
April 04 2020 21:53 GMT
#13625
I just had a silver 1 rengar in my team in a high plat game. This should now be allowed. He got completely stomped. It wasn't even funny.
Taxes are for Terrans
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 06 2020 19:55 GMT
#13626
Client is so trash right now, I queued up a solo ARAM game and was told a player wasn't ready, so queue doesn't start. Right before, I was in a lobby where someone took Ezreal, but my client showed him having Jayce. Clicking on any of the rolls did nothing, couldn't change my champ.

Throw in the terrible lag spikes the last few weeks, freezing clients after every 2nd game, and you wonder how this is considered acceptable.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-27 20:50:42
April 27 2020 20:49 GMT
#13627
Apparently when I have the highest CS, Ward Score, 2nd highest KP and gold as a fucking jungler its apparently my fault that we lost, and not the mid laner that stayed in their lane afk for 15 minutes while maintaining a CS deficit. Low ELO at its finest, glad Riot decided after 2 years of being in gold, I get to rank reset to bottom silver. Great ladder.

A shocking turn of events that OP.gg ranks me as 3rd in the game and the ace for my team.......
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 27 2020 23:34 GMT
#13628
On April 28 2020 05:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Apparently when I have the highest CS, Ward Score, 2nd highest KP and gold as a fucking jungler its apparently my fault that we lost, and not the mid laner that stayed in their lane afk for 15 minutes while maintaining a CS deficit. Low ELO at its finest, glad Riot decided after 2 years of being in gold, I get to rank reset to bottom silver. Great ladder.

A shocking turn of events that OP.gg ranks me as 3rd in the game and the ace for my team.......

getting out of silver is absolutely agonizing, although so far Gold 3 hasn't been much better, seriously fuck all my teammates lol
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 28 2020 07:25 GMT
#13629
As always, jungle (and support) are bad roles in low ELO, because the real carries are your laners. And it's not rare to get 2 or 3 laners who suck so badly they can't carry even when given an advantage on a silver plate, because people feed much harder in Silver than in Plat+ since they don't understand basic aspects of the game (like expecting a gank...).

So either switch role, or OTP Lee Sin until you're a god.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-28 14:05:10
April 28 2020 14:04 GMT
#13630
On April 28 2020 16:25 DarkCore wrote:
As always, jungle (and support) are bad roles in low ELO, because the real carries are your laners. And it's not rare to get 2 or 3 laners who suck so badly they can't carry even when given an advantage on a silver plate, because people feed much harder in Silver than in Plat+ since they don't understand basic aspects of the game (like expecting a gank...).

So either switch role, or OTP Lee Sin until you're a god.


The sad part is I was ADC but our jungler was autofilled and asked to swap. I honestly wish I didn't because our support was the only other person on the team with a brain. Usually I just spam Zyra and out damage everyone in the game and do my best to 1v9, but like you said support is cancer in low ELO because you can only drag your teammates to victory so hard. This season feels especially terrible compared to the past 2
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 29 2020 08:36 GMT
#13631
Zyra is a good support imo, you can be the carry if your ADC sucks. Just need the trinket item and then straight to Liandries, if you get it before minute 12 you can almost 1vs2 the lane. I personally play a lot of Karma (and Morgana if I see she counters someone on enemy team), even well into Plat people in the bot lane don't understand anything about harass or engage, you can singlehandidly poke people out of lane by the 5 minute mark. Bot lane matchups are incredibly versatile and there are loads of specific power spike times, that's why even on Challenger/GM streams you see people get caught out and feed like idiots.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 29 2020 12:38 GMT
#13632
Like 5 years ago I spammed Karma out of bronze because no one has a clue. Maybe I should pull that again. It just gets frustrating losing. Hell half the games you win feel like shit because you’re either dragging someone along, someone is Giga toxic, or both lmao
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
April 29 2020 16:53 GMT
#13633
I've been a support main since S2 and from S3 ended as platinum or diamond with multiple alt accounts on both EUW and EUNE. From my experience:

If you want to carry as a support in low Elo just play one of the supports that are lowkey actually the hard carry and has essentially hyper scaling. Soraka, Janna or Lulu. Incidentially they are also good at making your team not feed and good at making your opponent giga tilt (which both are another easy way to climb in low Elo).

In low Elo people are horrible at closing games early so "carry supports" like Brand/Zyra honestly suck ass IMO. A well-played enchanter is approximately a million times stronger post 20 (barring stomps where your champ really doesn't matter anyway) since the game devolves into a fiesta which is where they truly shine.

Dont try to 1v9 in a role that's not designed to 1v9, it's perfectly viable to 2v8 against bad players on the other hand. The "carry supports" are very strong if your team knows you're a monster early and plays around it, which people dont do in low Elo. If you want to kill shit just play Pyke instead.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9239 Posts
April 29 2020 18:46 GMT
#13634
Agree about enchanters in general though I'm not so sure about Lulu. I think she can't salvage losing lanes as well as the other two. Janna and Soraka can't carry on their own, but they do make the team very light to carry for someone else.
You're now breathing manually
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 29 2020 20:06 GMT
#13635
My problem with Pyke in low ELO is that your adc is so hard convinced that they need/deserve to be the star that playing a champion that has good roaming is just stupid because your adc will walk up and suicide 1v2 all day. I really should add Lulu to my champ pool, I'm pretty mediocre on her
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 29 2020 20:07 GMT
#13636
Yeah, Soraka and Janna are great once you get into the Elo range where people let you babysit them. It's the same reason I played a lot of Morgana and Karma, you have lane presence and can peel.

I don't like Lulu either, she does so little when your ADC doesn't coordinate with you: her shield is supposed to be used offensively because of the bonus damage, but I see too many people back off. Same story with W, people don't react when you use it on them. Also, in terms of peel, Lulu ult is worse than Janna ult. And her kit revolves around only one ally/enemy, Janna and Soraka can buff/peel multiple people.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
April 29 2020 22:22 GMT
#13637
On April 30 2020 05:07 DarkCore wrote:
Yeah, Soraka and Janna are great once you get into the Elo range where people let you babysit them. It's the same reason I played a lot of Morgana and Karma, you have lane presence and can peel.

I don't like Lulu either, she does so little when your ADC doesn't coordinate with you: her shield is supposed to be used offensively because of the bonus damage, but I see too many people back off. Same story with W, people don't react when you use it on them. Also, in terms of peel, Lulu ult is worse than Janna ult. And her kit revolves around only one ally/enemy, Janna and Soraka can buff/peel multiple people.

Lulu can buff other targets than the ADC and honestly it's often better to turn your Jax into a walking god of destruction.

I only pick Lulu even on my main if there's multiple champions that can benefit immensely from her buffs since I'm not blindly going to trust my ADC to play around her. The toplaner being one is for me more important than which ADC I have. Toplaners at any Elo I've been in seem in general like they have a mental switch to go full berserk if they get buffed by anyone, which is what I love to see when I play Lulu.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 29 2020 22:54 GMT
#13638
On April 30 2020 07:22 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:07 DarkCore wrote:
Yeah, Soraka and Janna are great once you get into the Elo range where people let you babysit them. It's the same reason I played a lot of Morgana and Karma, you have lane presence and can peel.

I don't like Lulu either, she does so little when your ADC doesn't coordinate with you: her shield is supposed to be used offensively because of the bonus damage, but I see too many people back off. Same story with W, people don't react when you use it on them. Also, in terms of peel, Lulu ult is worse than Janna ult. And her kit revolves around only one ally/enemy, Janna and Soraka can buff/peel multiple people.

Lulu can buff other targets than the ADC and honestly it's often better to turn your Jax into a walking god of destruction.

I only pick Lulu even on my main if there's multiple champions that can benefit immensely from her buffs since I'm not blindly going to trust my ADC to play around her. The toplaner being one is for me more important than which ADC I have. Toplaners at any Elo I've been in seem in general like they have a mental switch to go full berserk if they get buffed by anyone, which is what I love to see when I play Lulu.

you see all top laners are already insane from the games where we get camped by the enemy jungler into oblivion
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 30 2020 22:41 GMT
#13639
Low ELO is a fucking cancer on society. Playing Varus adc and walk out of lane 4/1/3 versus Garen/Nocturne/Kassadin/Jhin/Nami, my top laner builds full lethality sion and yells at us that we should 1-3-1 and spends 30 minutes refusing to group as nocturne ults me again and again until kassadin comes online and we all lose.

I literally begged him and our jungler to stop split pushing so we can walk down mid and end the game through their open inhibitor and they refused, then said that I should "never die to a nocturne" as varus with at most 2 teammates around me at any given time
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
May 01 2020 08:27 GMT
#13640
my top laner builds full lethality sion

TheBaus fan spotted.

spends 30 minutes refusing to group

Yup, sounds very much like Baus, although he does sometimes group.
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