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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On September 09 2011 07:28 zulu_nation8 wrote: dying once in lane vs a competent opponent should be enough to make you lose the lane. Yeah, dying once is pretty terrible for several reasons: a) They get a flat out 400 gold. b) They get like a minute to farm freely without concern; means they can push a turret without concern of ganking. c) You lose farming time. d) They will likely gain a level or two. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On September 09 2011 06:46 Jerubaal wrote: Hey, wasn't there like 2 threads written about how passive play was rewarded and you could basically die several times in the first couple of levels and end up on essentially even ground- or worse if they are at full health and have items- as the ones who are 0-2? Why don't you go review those threads and let me know which half of this forum is full of idiots. Which is referring to high level team play where the bush is warded 100% of the time, and people don't push the lane unless the jungler is accounted for, etc. If you think that applies to bads who push lane to tower at ~70% health right after you grab your redbuff as WW, you'd BETTER be ganking at level 4. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On September 09 2011 09:14 iCanada wrote: Yeah, dying once is pretty terrible for several reasons: a) They get a flat out 400 gold. b) They get like a minute to farm freely without concern; means they can push a turret without concern of ganking. c) You lose farming time. d) They will likely gain a level or two. These are all wrong or at the least extremely situational though A) 300g unless first blood B) did you do no damage to them whatsoever? If they 100->0'd you without any retaliation, then yeah they MIGHT stay in lane. In 90% of cases though they'll back because you will have aolmost killed them as well and your jungler or other lanes are gonna be hot on their ass C) did they dive you? If so, yeah you'll miss creeps. But most likely the creeps will be centered OR you'll have a huge wave when you get back. If you died to malz or other megapusher this might not hold tho D) not from killing you! They might level from creeps yeah but like in C, you'll instantly catch up thanks to your huge wave when you come back Ofc if they dive you for a kill it's totally different but very very few champs can safely solo dive at early levels. Like... Panth and renekton. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 09 2011 10:32 gtrsrs wrote: B) did you do no damage to them whatsoever? If they 100->0'd you without any retaliation, then yeah they MIGHT stay in lane. In 90% of cases though they'll back because you will have aolmost killed them as well and your jungler or other lanes are gonna be hot on their ass If it's a gank scenario, they probably lost way less HP than you because of the extra person's worth of damage with a few exceptions where you're playing someone with extremely front-loaded damage. Your jungler is unlikely to be able to clean up a 1v2 either way. On September 09 2011 10:32 gtrsrs wrote: C) did they dive you? If so, yeah you'll miss creeps. But most likely the creeps will be centered OR you'll have a huge wave when you get back. If you died to malz or other megapusher this might not hold tho Again, if it's a gank, then 2 people can push the wave together, which means you're pretty likely to lose the creeps. You're looking at solo kill situations, when most in-lane kills are far more likely to come from ganks. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Sponge75
England194 Posts
Game 2- Get the Xin again who is now trolling insta locks jungle eve with revive proceeds to just run around my lane taking cs. Love ranked games. | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
On September 09 2011 19:57 Sponge75 wrote: Game 1 - Xin goes 2-10, Kass goes 6 cs in top lane claiming to be drunk and goes 4-8 Game 2- Get the Xin again who is now trolling insta locks jungle eve with revive proceeds to just run around my lane taking cs. Love ranked games. On average, THEIR Kass/xin/eve will go full retard aswell. Honestly, play a hundred games and you'll be at the ELO you've played as. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:02 BouBou.865 wrote: On average, THEIR Kass/xin/eve will go full retard aswell. Honestly, play a hundred games and you'll be at the ELO you've played as. I've played nearly 150 games, and the only reason I see that I am sub-1200 elo is that I can't carry 4 morons while playing. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:30 zer0das wrote: Jungled my first ranked game... blame the jungler for everything, including your crappy picks. The guy who had last pick goes for Garen instead of a ranged AD (when we didn't have one or a strong AP carry). Predictably bottom is getting destroyed by Ashe/Janna and is asking for ganks at level 3 (and needs it way more often than that), as is Garen at top. What the crap? What I am supposed to do in this situation? If I leave bottom, they get brutalized shortly after. Every time I gank I have to go heal because I don't have any items. If I try to gank top more often, I likely die due to being so far behind from having to compensate for the poor composition bottom. When the enemy team's top turret is left completely undefended after a fight,. I get yelled at for pushing the turret (when we could have killed it if they had attacked with me, thereby making my ganks easier and perhaps alleviating the bottom lane issue). Then they proceed to feed Mordekaiser and it's just uggggh. I know i'm very rough because I have never done this in ranked game, but I feel like there's no way I could have done what was being asked of me. Good grief. Doing what's asked of you, and doing what's going to win the game are very often not the same thing in solo queue. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Playing the ME AP MID I DONT CARE LETS DUO MID thing as lastpicks and then feeding 0-10 within 5minutes if you give them mid. Real fun. How to get obvious faggots like these instabanned without tribunal? | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
My team: Me (AD Ezreal), Shaco, Galio, Trynda and Kat Other team: Ezreal, Lee Sin, Soraka Trynda and Teemo Now, I am in mid in a mirror, Ez vs Ez. I start owning him, etc etc, and eventually kill the mid tower. Now later on in the game, we are in a commanding position etc when I notice our shaco is 0/7. I am like no problem, we are winning this. But nooooooo, the whole team has to derp (not me lol), and just die more in teamfights than kill. Shaco keeps on feeding :/ and eventually leaves the game. The feeling of losing the game after having the best k/d ratio in the whole game is totally heartbreaking. I could take any of them one on one and pwn them no problem, but our team was in such a total disarray. One goes away by himself, dies, another one goes to kill the low hp guys...1v4! -_________________- One after another when no one is in a position on the map to help them. I hate getting stuck with such people. gg no re | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:48 TheYango wrote: Doing what's asked of you, and doing what's going to win the game are very often not the same thing in solo queue. Yeah, I'm aware. It's hard to focus and come up with a solid plan when everyone is calling you a noob and an idiot though. I think in retrospect probably the best thing to have done would have been to cede the first bottom tower (even if that gives up free dragons- given team composition there was little we could have done to stop that early on, even with the tower, is my guess) so if Ashe/Janna kept pushing I could shut that down. And if they stopped, I could gank up top. It would have also given me some time to get levels. I was Nocturne, so my ganks were awful because I had to do them so ridiculously early, and I didn't have fear for a looong time, or my ultimate. I probably should have gotten fear sooner in anticipation of the laning stage being absolutely horrific for our team, but I wasn't really expecting things to be as bad as they were. I still think we potentially could have come back, but when two teammates are spending more time typing out insults than fighting as a team, one teammates says they have to leave, and only one of them is trying to stay positive and be helpful, there's just no way. :/ | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Ok, shouldn't be too hard to grab 60 elo right? God I so am not used to having to carry THIS hard any more. Doesn't matter how hard I crush bot lane, unless I get my team to listen to me and hold their hands REAL TIGHT, telling them what to do every 10 seconds... Like just now, I spent 50% of my game time explaing the most obvious shit ever. And then there was this ABYSMAL Kennen who thought he was the greatest, and who ALWAYS tried to give orders which were pretty much exactly the opposite of what I told my team. Luckily my team listened to me, at least sometimes. Because of one of these cases of Kennen opposing my orders we once started Baron like 20 seconds later than we could have. We still got it, killed 3 enemies, but we also lost 2 people including me. That low elo... Cool, 3 feeders and a leaver. Not even trying for gold on EU anymore, not worth losing my sanity for. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
Lose another fucking game because shit nasus forces a 4v5 (which gives them free baron) and then shit nasus forces another 5v5 vs baron off tower so we lose. Game over. Had that guy 4 times and he's played like trash every game. WTB "don't group me with this retard" button. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
I start at bot finally with teemo who complains and don't farm at all. I go mid to take first blood (ashe sees me but just stays). And kata uses this moment to go to bot and leave me mid... I rape ashe (....) while katarina and teemo die all day long to tynda and Janna. I have to buy rabadons and try to carry then baddies. Kata just takes a walk several times in thier jungle to get killed, etc... Next game, Annie mid against Karthus just sucks. He casts ultimate and she does nothing. Get 1 kill first time, 2 kills second time. Then he just kills her 1v1. He insults us for being noobs (he had instapicked annie btw). | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
3 minutes into game Kat score is 0-3 ... wtf how do you die so much so early ... 10 minutes into game Kat score is 0-8 ... really? now you're just feeding on purpose ... 20 minutes into game Kat score is 0-13 ... now Kat is just typing in chat and mocking the team ... 30 minutes into game Kat score is 0-16 ... holy fuck I swear to god these people need to die or something Kat buys Doran's Shield and then goes straight for Rylais without even getting Boots ... then after shes died 15 times and with 0 kills and 3 assists she gets Mejais ... REALLY? MEJAIS? DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT THAT IS FUCKING FOR? Mind you she still doesn't have Level 1 Boots ... I swear to god this kid is actually mentally retarded or something ... fuck | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
I pick soraka to trade with a teammate as firstpick, opponents get GP and ori. Next two people pick morde and galio (who i am trading for). Opponents pick singed and cait 5th locks in karthus for some stupid reason, and 4th decides to be a asshat and locks in aspeed malz. ._. | ||
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