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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 19 2012 16:09 GMT
#3421
Play ap middle and roam gank constantly or play a jungler that can babysit lanes or gank constantly

ap roamers: ahri, annie, sion, morgana

ganking junglers: lee sin, riven, nocturne, alistar, maokai, udyr
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
April 19 2012 16:23 GMT
#3422
On April 19 2012 16:31 Gaslo wrote:
Oh and that Fizz brings me to another point. I have maybe seen 1 Fizz, that had decent cs in my games. I know his skills arent exactly made to the laning phase, but it would make it a bit easier for all of us, if you even had half of the other guys creeps. :# Fizz free week gives me horrors, i had 4 fizzes in a row where none of them had 100 cs by 25 min.


I call it the kassadin syndrome. Basically all mid ap assassins with non-range AA. Either fed on enemy team or 20cs at 20min on your team.
SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
April 19 2012 17:29 GMT
#3423
So, I queue up for a game last night, no one is picking support so I grab soraka, go bot with kog.

at level 1 BEFORE MINIONS HAVE SPAWNED kog gets into a fight in the bushes with garen and manages to almost die, I have to burn flash to jump in and save his dumb ass, he backs...

and then when he returns he runs straight into the bushes, again almost getting spun down by garen. so the game goes on, we're losing top, mid keeps screaming at me after he dies "SORAKA WHERE ULT?" i dunno lol how about you let me know somehow that you need it other than dying, maybe a ping or something?

at any rate, we fall way behind, kog doesn't know how to farm at all (GDI KOG FREE WEEK), we get aced and I try to surrender... and we don't even though we're down 20 kills and have no towers. Other team gets baron, and one inhib, and then just camps us for kills, not bothering with getting our nexus. at this point i'm mad as hell, try to surrender again, STILL 3-2. and then kog says the most idiotic thing possible.

"we can still win this"

wat. wat. FUCKING WAT. this guy. I try to explain that they have baron, they have 20 more kills, there's literally nothing we can do (can't push or we'll just die, we basically can only defend nexus towers, and we can't even do that well)

"just finish your builds, we can win!"

some people need to never play this game. I don't know who the other moron was who didn't vote to surrender, but gdi whyyyyyyyyy I wanted to requeue after we had clearly lost but no we had to drag it out 15 more minutes
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 19 2012 18:43 GMT
#3424
1-9 Mundo.
First item Wits End.
2nd item Warmogs, which he finished at 35 mins.
Gets both of our Baron's stolen by an enemy Ezreal ult.

How2beuncarriable.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
April 19 2012 18:54 GMT
#3425
So mad right now...
Just played the most epic game ever, our zigg was afk the whole game.
I played Nasus and 1v2ed 2 guys top lane and did pretty good, at all our team did no bad job.
The game went for over an hour, it was by far my longest game, eventually we loose, i have a score like 20/30/30 and then when i wanna see the score screen... nothing... and the game is not listed in the recently played games... Fuck eu server ._.
Why does this happen just at such an epic game?
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 18:59:50
April 19 2012 18:59 GMT
#3426
q_q eu.w is down/cant login and i literally bought my 1 day ip boost 30 minutes before it went down....

over 20k waiting list is not nice
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 19:36:29
April 19 2012 19:36 GMT
#3427
I don't know whats wrong today but I've been losing to the most GIMMICKY or strangest team comps ever. I shouldn't even be losing these but my team somehow can't handle it.

-Double ranged AD bot, their Graves gets half the farm of me(Sivir) because he has a Ashe for support. Ashe goes roams mid and top at level 6 and somehow helps the lane snowball even after I told my team she would roam the map. GG

-Heimdinger mid against Leblanc, whos supposed to hard counter him but she held back the fact that she had played less than 3 games of Leblanc total. Pantheon top and our last pick counterpicks himself with GP. GG

-GAREN mid against Ahri and she somehow loses because of "lag." And we have a jungle Fiora against a Shyvana. You don't have to be a expert to know that Fiora is a slow jungler and Shyvana just counterjungled the crap out of her until she was 5 levels higher at one point. GG
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 19 2012 19:56 GMT
#3428
Full retard jungle nocturne (who was building glass cannon) jumps into 1v5 fights FOUR TIMES IN A ROW trying to snipe low health opponents. He didn't kill one.

Fucking morons.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
April 19 2012 21:18 GMT
#3429
I hate it when people throw the game because they are underestimating the enemy after going 5/0 and are like "wtf how could we lose this? noob team!" disregarding the fact that they tried to 1v3+ several times "because im fedddd!".
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 19 2012 22:50 GMT
#3430
GP dcs, Yi afks, shaco dcs after 15 mins and yet the game drags on to 45 minutes 2v5...other team just like, roams the map. sigh.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
April 20 2012 00:08 GMT
#3431
It seems that my normals games are 100x better than my ranked games.

Managed to tank 10 ranked games in a row and now I'm sitting at 950.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 02:15:22
April 20 2012 02:14 GMT
#3432
Guide to losing to GP (a bad at that) as Shen:
Get the advantage, force him off whenever he's oom,harass him. See botlane pushed to their tower because picking Blitz to go with MF after they had Soraka+Graves was such a good idea, have to ult to help them. Get 2 assists. Have to cover because they managed to die anyway. Get killed when they come back because they force you to fight as soon as they arrive, and will visibly die if you don't stay there.

Go back top to a freefarming GP that is now a level and some cs ahead of you, with substantiable tower damage, because you spent almost 2 minutes down there. Have Riven hand over blue buff to GP during that time because your jungler is a first day buy Hecarim that instalocked him and visibly can't play him: dies to wolves on his second clear, uses his ult to gank GP, pushing him toward his tower, doesn't use wriggles, etc.
Have GP kill you by some streak of luck, flashing in the bushes with less than 15hp and minions trying to attack him, thanks to his blue buff and one level ahead.

Have jungle and mid come see you since your own jungler can't apply any pressure and your mid is forced to babysit bot instead.
See GP outfarm you in cs and levels. Sigh heavily as bot lane died again, despite you ulting to them and sacrificing your tower in the process.

People are such idiots down there. And they whine all game long, MF was some russian dude thay facechecked, ran right back in everytime I saved him by taunting his pursuers (knowing I'd die because GP's passive + fed Graves), refused to group up with us and tried to 1v1 people he contributed to feed. Hecarim fachecking, trying to initiate w/o us, wasting his ult on a single kill then wanting to initiate a 4v4.

People generally not understanding that hey, when there's Katarina on the opposing team you don't split up nor stupidly chase people in their jungle.
That was painful. People are morons. I guess next time I won't ult and let that lane die to make sure I at least win mine. Dumb people.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
April 20 2012 03:38 GMT
#3433
Viktor is so broken at the moment. You can't see his fucking laser coming, only the initial cast location, his ulti can cast twice on occasion and instagib you, and now with the new patch his laser can cast twice and chunk you for half your health instantly. Fuck him.
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
April 20 2012 08:49 GMT
#3434
On April 20 2012 04:36 MooMooMugi wrote:
I don't know whats wrong today but I've been losing to the most GIMMICKY or strangest team comps ever. I shouldn't even be losing these but my team somehow can't handle it.

-Double ranged AD bot, their Graves gets half the farm of me(Sivir) because he has a Ashe for support. Ashe goes roams mid and top at level 6 and somehow helps the lane snowball even after I told my team she would roam the map. GG

-Heimdinger mid against Leblanc, whos supposed to hard counter him but she held back the fact that she had played less than 3 games of Leblanc total. Pantheon top and our last pick counterpicks himself with GP. GG

-GAREN mid against Ahri and she somehow loses because of "lag." And we have a jungle Fiora against a Shyvana. You don't have to be a expert to know that Fiora is a slow jungler and Shyvana just counterjungled the crap out of her until she was 5 levels higher at one point. GG


Sounds like me, I somehow enter gamethrow mode whenever I'm playing vs a comp that is just absolutely awful, I just win my lane then go full derp and suicide doing dumb things.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
April 20 2012 14:12 GMT
#3435
Blah, just won a game playing support where our AD carry, a charmer called Wyl, started grousing me out after we'd taken an inhib where I'd backed away after they'd respawned, and he/she got shirty that I didn't stay to heal/Infuse them, as I was practically OOM. Escalated into a stupidly spiralling argument where they said having a better KDA (as carry over support) was because they were a better player, claimed our Kassadin's quadra was a "quadra KS", etc etc etc. Put them on ignore and got on with the by-then easy victory, but it was the first time I've ever felt the urge to throw a game just so someone else would lose ELO. Time for a drink ...
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
noggnoskill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States97 Posts
April 20 2012 15:52 GMT
#3436
I was like YO MANG LET ME MID as soon as we get to champ select, but solo queue being solo queue people are like LOL FUCK YOU and I end up getting stuck with support. So I ask the dude what support he wants. Naturally, he doesn't say a single fucking thing. So I default to the taric/graves lane because DAT BURST and I have to make soraka hate his life as much as possible for picking such a fucking anti-fun champion.. I end up getting graves 5 kills in lane pretty fucking quick, and he has like double Ashe's farm. Our AD sion top is busy raging at our malzahar mid for being 0-3 vs fizz when he said he needed to play mid to carry us in champion select. But it's fine, right? We have a fed carry, they have a carry with jack shit. But it's really not. Graves build an IE as his first item, which isn't the worst, except that he didn't even fight anyone. If you're going to stay in lane, I think bloodthirster is a better idea. But what does he do next? He makes a Bloodthirster. Yep, no phantom dancers to be found on this guy. I'm like, okay, he's one of those people that are new and think that GRAVES IS LIKE AN AD CASTER means DONT BUY ANY ATTACK SPEED EVER NO MATTER WHAT, but whatever. As long as he has a phantom dancer while we're trying to pressure baron, right?

No.

35 minutes into the game, and he's building a last whisper. No phantom dancer. Just a last whisper. Now, this would be fine, but after a fight at blue where their jungler blew smite trying to steal it and ashe missed her arrow, everyone on the team is saying we need to baron NOW. So we all get over there, we're all in position, but Graves refuses to come, saying only "we have no oracle" as we're all pinging baron furiously.

At this point, I just don't give a shit. They OBVIOUSLY don't want to win the game, so I just wander around the map, warding, getting caught, and dying because I just don't give a fuck anymore. And we lose. Because phantom-dancer-as-a-last-item-only Graves just didn't want to take a free baron. And he tells us all he's the best player on the team because I fed him several kills in lane, the gold from which he used to buy everything but a phantom dancer.
Never forget, JAYM 4/4/2012
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
April 20 2012 17:31 GMT
#3437
So, played a game where I was Olaf top. I was soloQing which is never a good idea but nonetheless, I went for it. I'm laning against an AP Sion who doesn't even bother to CS, and only wants to harass me. He eventually forces me out of lane because I'm OOM from CSing with my Axe (at which point Sion is taunting me in /all for missing so many axe throws at him) but now I'm a good 35-40 CS ahead. I buy, come back to lane and proceed to 100-0 murder Sion in about 10 seconds. I push to his tower, and CS for a few waves until he comes back.

Meanwhile, our free week Kog'Maw gets a double kill bottom and I start thinking "oh man this might be a good game!"

Nope. They have a jungle Fiora who proceeds to babysit bottom lane and I have a team of unending stupidity. I murder Sion in lane two more times and I'm literally almost 100 CS ahead at this point. I decide to go help out bottom lane. My team engages before I get there into a 3v5 and they all predictably die without getting a kill. Fiora is at 7/0/0 now.

"Hey guys, Fiora is getting fed, buy a thornmail"

So I gank their Ziggs mid as revenge for him trying to gank me with Sion top and I eat him alive, and I'm up to 4/0/0 and 100 CS ahead in my lane still because Sion is back bottom lane helping feed Fiora.

"Enemy Triple Kill"

Fiora is 10/0/0

"Guys PLEASE buy a Thornmail"
"stfu noob I don't need thornmail"

Lets fast-forward a little:

We're at the point where our Kog'Maw is 4/16/10 and literally dies to Fiora in three hits in teamfights. Their Graves is getting pretty fed as well and their scores look something like

24/4/9
9/3/20

"Guys, seriously, get a Thornmail"
"omg ur so annoying im playing ad carry why would i get armor?"

Fastforward again:

I've persuaded our Volibear and Hecarim to buy thornmails and we're starting to win teamfights.

Fiora has gotten down to: 32/12/12
Graves 13/9/27

Kog'Maw is up to like 4/22/14

"Kog, please buy a fucking thornmail"
"Yeah Kog, seriously"
"It's how we're catching back up"

Their team is so pants on head retarded that the Ziggs now has three Deathcaps, their Warwick has gone AFK for the past 10 minutes, and Sion is never around for teamfights.

However, we can't win yet because our AD Carry dies in two swipes of Fiora's fully fed Double Bloodthirster, Double IE, Phantom Dancer build and he has like 20 armor.

"stfu guys u dont kno how to AD Carry" says the Kog'Maw with 57 CS at the 45 minute mark.

I finally get to the point where I'm so tanky that Fiora/Graves can't kill me without killing themselves and manage to take them out in a teamfight where we push for the win (while Kog'Maw is soloing Dragon)

Postgame Lobby:
gg
gg
ggwp
bg ww afk
Kog'Maw: My team feeder noobs. Olaf uninstall. No idea how to protect AD Carry. Report plz

Some people are so stupid it makes me actually want to tear my hair out in frustration.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 20 2012 18:39 GMT
#3438
...thornmail
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 20 2012 18:42 GMT
#3439
On April 21 2012 03:39 HazMat wrote:
...thornmail

ya I was gonna try to say something.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 20 2012 18:43 GMT
#3440
Thornmail best item in the game :>
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