• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:56
CEST 06:56
KST 13:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL19Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack8[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage2EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)17Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN Can anyone explain to me why u cant veto a matchup The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Karma, Domino Effect, and how it relates to SC2. Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group B EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) DreamHack Dallas 2025 [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group A RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Connect with Key Decision-Makers Through Ready Mai Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle.net is not working BW General Discussion Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] RO20 Group D - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL20] RO20 Group B - Saturday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Monster Hunter Wilds Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread All you football fans (soccer)! European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 17972 users

DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Page 18

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 22 Next All
Replay pack: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1am1m7Ny5pdVjnet-JbHc4MBybAtBckpE/view
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3267 Posts
May 25 2025 20:32 GMT
#341
I think they need to un-nerf Ghost EMP especially with how Templar get Energy Overcharge.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17649 Posts
May 25 2025 20:33 GMT
#342
On May 26 2025 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
I think they need to un-nerf Ghost EMP especially with how Templar get Energy Overcharge.

Makes sense with the ghost's increase supply cost too
"Expert" mods4ever.com
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3412 Posts
May 25 2025 20:36 GMT
#343
On May 26 2025 05:33 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
I think they need to un-nerf Ghost EMP especially with how Templar get Energy Overcharge.

Makes sense with the ghost's increase supply cost too

While one could try it i dont know if that is the way we would want to go.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3412 Posts
May 25 2025 20:47 GMT
#344
Well maru wins the macro game this time.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15900 Posts
May 25 2025 20:48 GMT
#345
Maru starts practicing and instantly becomes the best again
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24660 Posts
May 25 2025 20:49 GMT
#346
On May 26 2025 05:33 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
I think they need to un-nerf Ghost EMP especially with how Templar get Energy Overcharge.

Makes sense with the ghost's increase supply cost too

Plz no
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
May 25 2025 21:05 GMT
#347
Maru playing well that game! Gogo
WriterMaru
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3412 Posts
May 25 2025 21:07 GMT
#348
I hate libs the way zvp and pvt devolve in the lategame because of air units is pretty annoying (and yes i know terran kinda needs libs rn).
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38194 Posts
May 25 2025 21:10 GMT
#349
Really really good execution from Maru in the end.

Funny to see his TvT excellence basically play out in TvP with the progressive positional zoning out around terrain
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3267 Posts
May 25 2025 21:12 GMT
#350
Not too bad for a guy who is washed
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
182 Posts
May 25 2025 21:14 GMT
#351
On May 26 2025 06:07 darklycid wrote:
I hate libs the way zvp and pvt devolve in the lategame because of air units is pretty annoying (and yes i know terran kinda needs libs rn).


Libs are OP but the blame is mostly on the toss side.

All these toss players are still stubborn and dumb as fuck against it after a decade. Instead of switching to tempest/carriers to support their ground army. All these toss players continue to double down on mass gateway and more useless Robo units.

All these late game always end the same once mass libs hits the field.

It’s already been proven to death that mass gateway gets slaughter in these situation.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3412 Posts
May 25 2025 21:16 GMT
#352
On May 26 2025 06:14 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 06:07 darklycid wrote:
I hate libs the way zvp and pvt devolve in the lategame because of air units is pretty annoying (and yes i know terran kinda needs libs rn).


Libs are OP but the blame is mostly on the toss side.

All these toss players are still stubborn and dumb as fuck against it after a decade. Instead of switching to tempest/carriers to support their ground army. All these toss players continue to double down on mass gateway and more useless Robo units.

All these late game always end the same once mass libs hits the field.

It’s already been proven to death that mass gateway gets slaughter in these situation.

you also see tempest here and there but never to the biggest of successes but yea i would just love for the game to not be dsigned to need air units to counter air units and even air units to counter certain ground comps (lurkers).
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
182 Posts
May 25 2025 21:17 GMT
#353
Hoping for this “new” solar to win.

Or will be see another annually Maru clowning on “old” solar 3-1
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1125 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-25 21:19:24
May 25 2025 21:18 GMT
#354
So Maru is finally destined for his DreamHack win unless Solar has a bag of ZvT novelties as big as that of Shin.
Mutation complete.
Pentarp
Profile Joined August 2015
215 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-25 21:21:07
May 25 2025 21:20 GMT
#355
On May 26 2025 05:49 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 05:33 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 26 2025 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
I think they need to un-nerf Ghost EMP especially with how Templar get Energy Overcharge.

Makes sense with the ghost's increase supply cost too

Plz no

Ghosts did not win that last match.

It was Liberators and Maru's patience/decisiveness vs Classic's hesitation and blunders. If Classic started the transition into air toss with his massive bank, this would have been over.
Plogamer TL.net RedRocket B.net
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-25 21:24:40
May 25 2025 21:24 GMT
#356
On May 26 2025 06:16 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 06:14 Blitzball04 wrote:
On May 26 2025 06:07 darklycid wrote:
I hate libs the way zvp and pvt devolve in the lategame because of air units is pretty annoying (and yes i know terran kinda needs libs rn).


Libs are OP but the blame is mostly on the toss side.

All these toss players are still stubborn and dumb as fuck against it after a decade. Instead of switching to tempest/carriers to support their ground army. All these toss players continue to double down on mass gateway and more useless Robo units.

All these late game always end the same once mass libs hits the field.

It’s already been proven to death that mass gateway gets slaughter in these situation.

you also see tempest here and there but never to the biggest of successes but yea i would just love for the game to not be dsigned to need air units to counter air units and even air units to counter certain ground comps (lurkers).

Air beating air beating ground is the original sin of SC2 late game.

Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
PremoBeats
Profile Joined March 2024
285 Posts
May 25 2025 21:25 GMT
#357
On May 26 2025 05:48 Charoisaur wrote:
Maru starts practicing and instantly becomes the best again

Speaking of which: Serral seems the most shaky I have seen him in a long time. Yes, this is speaking in Serral standards but so far, 2025 is Serral's 2nd worst year after 2021.
Really solid performance by Maru in Dallas.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3267 Posts
May 25 2025 21:25 GMT
#358
On May 26 2025 06:20 Pentarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 05:49 WombaT wrote:
On May 26 2025 05:33 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 26 2025 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
I think they need to un-nerf Ghost EMP especially with how Templar get Energy Overcharge.

Makes sense with the ghost's increase supply cost too

Plz no

Ghosts did not win that last match.

It was Liberators and Maru's patience/decisiveness vs Classic's hesitation and blunders. If Classic started the transition into air toss with his massive bank, this would have been over.

Transitioning into air against the guy who already have +2 air weapon and double Starport is very risky, unless you can sneak it past his attention somehow. Viking is just too good against most air unit, their weakness is spellcaster so you have to hit big Storm. I remember a couple time herO tried to transition into Air against Maru after having a great early game, but he ended up getting destroyed by the Vikings.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15900 Posts
May 25 2025 21:26 GMT
#359
The players that beat Serral and Clem both out in the ro4
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
182 Posts
May 25 2025 21:30 GMT
#360
On May 26 2025 06:25 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 06:20 Pentarp wrote:
On May 26 2025 05:49 WombaT wrote:
On May 26 2025 05:33 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 26 2025 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
I think they need to un-nerf Ghost EMP especially with how Templar get Energy Overcharge.

Makes sense with the ghost's increase supply cost too

Plz no

Ghosts did not win that last match.

It was Liberators and Maru's patience/decisiveness vs Classic's hesitation and blunders. If Classic started the transition into air toss with his massive bank, this would have been over.

Transitioning into air against the guy who already have +2 air weapon and double Starport is very risky, unless you can sneak it past his attention somehow. Viking is just too good against most air unit, their weakness is spellcaster so you have to hit big Storm. I remember a couple time herO tried to transition into Air against Maru after having a great early game, but he ended up getting destroyed by the Vikings.


When a toss has that kind of the bank in the late game. There is zero excuses for not having 5 stargates and upgrading the air attack / armor.
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 22 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Road to EWC
22:00
Americas Open Qualifiers #2
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 233
StarCraft: Brood War
Mind 96
ToSsGirL 36
Shinee 27
Noble 27
Icarus 8
League of Legends
JimRising 692
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K443
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King151
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor105
Other Games
summit1g8720
C9.Mang0442
Skadoodle193
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick963
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 93
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 147
• Diggity5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3604
• Lourlo931
• Stunt271
• HappyZerGling70
Upcoming Events
Road to EWC
4h 4m
Road to EWC
5h 4m
Road to EWC
17h 4m
Road to EWC
1d 4h
Road to EWC
1d 11h
BSL Season 20
1d 13h
Sziky vs Razz
Sziky vs StRyKeR
Sziky vs DragOn
Sziky vs Tech
Razz vs StRyKeR
Razz vs DragOn
Razz vs Tech
DragOn vs Tech
Online Event
1d 23h
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Road to EWC
2 days
BSL Season 20
2 days
Bonyth vs Doodle
Bonyth vs izu
Bonyth vs MadiNho
Bonyth vs TerrOr
MadiNho vs TerrOr
Doodle vs izu
Doodle vs MadiNho
Doodle vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-28
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.