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Kaizi > TGP
Kaizi > AX
Shopify > Kaizi
Onsyde > Shopify
Psistorm > Onsyde
Psistorm > DPG
Psistorm wins
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United States33437 Posts
MaxPax having good match-ups into DPG is a potential X-factor. At the same time, I dunno if PSISTORM can survive Onsyde and Maru to reach the finals.
If TIME carries KaiZi Gaming to the championship, move the GSL to China for year.
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On February 17 2023 02:45 Waxangel wrote:
MaxPax having good match-ups into DPG is a potential X-factor. At the same time, I dunno if PSISTORM can survive Onsyde and Maru to reach the finals.
If TIME carries KaiZi Gaming to the championship, move the GSL to China for year.
I could see either of Has or Gerald preparing a specific build Maru to get a 1-1 right now. The other of the 2 could do the same for Reynor.
Psistorm has the advantage of having 2 decent enough players they can deploy as snipers.
If they Don t face Onsyde or Kaizi, it s still fine, because they are pretty decent with Special/ Gumi/ Max vs the other teams
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F91 should probably leave the game? lol
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Damn. Are Cham and Leenock the only hope of team?
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Leenock is a part time SC2 player at best so... KZ does need to clean this up quick to conserve energy vs Alpha X.
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lol Leenock really delivered unexpected result. Reynor just underestimated Leenock by going for early lings rush. But, still not enough to topple down Kaizi.
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Astrea's mistake is to reveal immortal to kill scouted lings. He should reveal the robo unit later. Otherwise, the Has build can be devastating to Reynor.
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Oliveira realy looking sharp again.
I was realy expecting him to play a lot worse due to high pressure of expectations
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The new world champion goes on a tear.
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He got a bit of revenge on the player who almost denied his IEM playoff
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On February 18 2023 00:49 dbRic1203 wrote:
Oliveira realy looking sharp again.
I was realy expecting him to play a lot worse due to high pressure of expectations
Lol in his interview he said he's playing with no pressure not thinking about win or lose. He said he's in the mindset of playing from the position of the weaker player.
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On February 17 2023 19:21 Die4Ever wrote:
F91 should probably leave the game? lol
He played a showmatch against Tossgirl today and lost 0:2 lmao
He's on the team for fun anyway. The owners of DPG and KZ are good friends with Scboy. In fact that's why they started the clubs in the first place. That's why Scboy are each in a team
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On February 18 2023 00:49 digmouse wrote:
The new world champion goes on a tear.
He played one map. He played well and showed similar brilliant use of liberators as at IEM, but still, it was 1 map.
Spirit did well too, and Reynor, of course, slayed. If KZG can keep this form up, they might be able to win the whole thing.
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On February 18 2023 01:26 davyhuss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2023 19:21 Die4Ever wrote:
F91 should probably leave the game? lol He played a showmatch against Tossgirl today and lost 0:2 lmao He's on the team for fun anyway. The owners of DPG and KZ are good friends with Scboy. In fact that's why they started the clubs in the first place. That's why Scboy are each in a team
yea in that match in game 1 he pulled a Fantasy (or even worse lol) and was way way behind but still didn't leave
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France12902 Posts
Carriers still look so strong, but Oliveira was miles step ahead of Harstem there. The world champ is still on a tear in these playoffs, amazing sight!
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Canada8989 Posts
It may be a bit premature, but I feel pretty comfortable saying Oli will never lose another match of SC2 in his life
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Maru's TvT still looked shaky as in IEM Katowice Final. Hopefully he gains more confidence later.
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On February 18 2023 22:05 Die4Ever wrote:
Maru, air control? no?
Did he hate Lib so much at this patch? I guess he just like to produce more marines to counter Libs and Vikings.
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On February 18 2023 22:14 swarminfestor wrote:Did he hate Lib so much at this patch? I guess he just like to produce more marines to counter Libs and Vikings.
he used plenty of air against Byun and Bunny at IEM so idk
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Maru reluctantly builds a single viking to kill the liberators that annihilated his economy lol
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Maru keeps donating ravens wtf
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The raven meta does not exist anymore it seems, Maru's TvT does not look great
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On February 18 2023 22:19 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2023 22:14 swarminfestor wrote:On February 18 2023 22:05 Die4Ever wrote:
Maru, air control? no? Did he hate Lib so much at this patch? I guess he just like to produce more marines to counter Libs and Vikings. he used plenty of air against Byun and Bunny at IEM so idk
He made a couple, but they just arrived too late before his opponent made the move. Suddenly, all his vikings got outnumbered.
I think it is very safe to say that Maru is not comfortable with the current patch in TvT. Also, his micro/multitasking seems lacked a bit, not daunting as the last few years. Maybe he did not has practice partner?
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There is like 1 raven maru had with almost full energy and he wondered that locked raven into viking lines I was like wtf
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Solar, a such reliable teammate just like he did to Kaizi and TSGaming before. Now, Onsyde has two maps ahead against Kaizi.
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Lovely comeback by a normal man.
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just realized Neeb beat Rogue on his world championship run (Blizzcon), and also beat Olive on his lol
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Probably Solar again huh.
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What the hell was Solar doing with SIX queens.
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I blame Maru for this whole situation
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Canada8989 Posts
Guys... I think Oliveira really is the best SC2 player in the world.
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He really is in a zone currently.
e: jinxed it.
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Oliveria and Solar both played well today
and now its up to their teammates
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at least Maru closed his wall behind him lol
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On February 19 2023 01:30 Die4Ever wrote:
at least Maru closed his wall behind him lol
not that time
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gg
what a great afternoon, ty wardi
have a good crazy saturday evening/night guys
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In the ace match the Queen vs lib action was so silly rofl
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Gumiho's camera is so out of focus lol, MaxPax should ask him what camera he uses
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Gumiho looking more blurry than GOMTV's streams in 2010
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On February 19 2023 21:01 Waxangel wrote:
NOBODY BEATS 180P GuMiho
just like 2011
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OK so Oliveira's Championship now looks less of luck, but more of actual strength.
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On February 19 2023 21:38 LittlePox wrote:
OK so Oliveira's Championship now looks less of luck, but more of actual strength.
Even if TIME did nothing after being world champion, that Sunday run was never luck since he beat (arguably) the best in each race - reynor (arguably), hero and maru. On that Sunday, for whatever reason, something "clicked" and he was the best player in the world.
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Canada8989 Posts
Did Lu Bu had like a secret son that come back and avenge him at the white gate?
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Oliveira really is an Anime Protagonist rn.
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OLIVEIRA WAS UNBEATABLE,gumiho 、major、maxpax all down
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Oliveira's TvT and TvP are great as before by anticipating opponent's movement, just like reading the book. He also is very decisive and know how to mitigate the damage received by each unit in battle of micro. This current patch fits him pretty well until someone find the weakness, or Oliveira himself does not practice after this.
As good as Oliveira's current form it is, I think he still lack in TvZ specifically. Let see how Dark counter later with his varied style of roach compositions (if Dark regains his confidence back despite he receives the red letter from Korean army).
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On February 19 2023 22:09 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2023 21:38 LittlePox wrote:
OK so Oliveira's Championship now looks less of luck, but more of actual strength.
Even if TIME did nothing after being world champion, that Sunday run was never luck since he beat (arguably) the best in each race - reynor (arguably), hero and maru. On that Sunday, for whatever reason, something "clicked" and he was the best player in the world.
Yep but that was only on that Sunday. Just one day before he was nearly eliminated from Group stage. That raised question whether he was just really lucky, happening to be in his 200% shape, on that particular Sunday.
soO did similar things in 2019 (four-way tie in the group stage and barely squeezed to playoff, defeating some of the best players in the world, to claim the top), but before that we all knew he had been to the top-tier finals so many times. Oliveira's last international show was 0-6 at DH Atlanta, and his previous best result was like top4 in WCS America or something.
Now people used to question his inexplainable play should get the answer: somehow, he IS really the top one player in the world.
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WTF reynor defended colossi push with linghydra...
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I feel like herO should've cancelled the dark shrine when he saw the spore in the main
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Come on Cure, one last stand before the end!
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OK now let's see Oliveira's TvT against Cure, GSL champion.
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Cure really capitalized on Reynor's weakness to counter mech combo. Can Cure beat Oliveira in TvT after getting beaten 2-0 in the group stage?
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On February 20 2023 00:29 LittlePox wrote:
OK now let's see Oliveira's TvT against Cure, GSL champion.
Cure's GSL trophy happened last two years ago. I didn't think a good measure to compare with the current patch and Oliveira's form in Katowice.
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On February 20 2023 00:32 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2023 00:29 LittlePox wrote:
OK now let's see Oliveira's TvT against Cure, GSL champion.
Cure's GSL trophy happened last two years ago. I didn't think a good measure to compare with the current patch and Oliveira's form in Katowice.
Funny that so many Korean player now still playing have won some GSL champions before:
Cure
Gumiho
herO
Dark
byuN
Solar
Maru
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Wardi says DPG winning isn't fun, but I like DPG... lol
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On February 20 2023 00:45 Die4Ever wrote:
Wardi says DPG winning isn't fun, but I like DPG... lol
DPG winning is the most fun, actually. Cure coming out of nowhere to smash everyone is the best timeline
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Wow, Cure is the last person I think can save DPG from downfall. But, today he is now a playmaker of the group.
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On February 20 2023 00:39 LittlePox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2023 00:32 swarminfestor wrote:On February 20 2023 00:29 LittlePox wrote:
OK now let's see Oliveira's TvT against Cure, GSL champion.
Cure's GSL trophy happened last two years ago. I didn't think a good measure to compare with the current patch and Oliveira's form in Katowice. Funny that so many Korean player now still playing have won some GSL champions before: Cure Gumiho herO Dark byuN Solar Maru
Solar??
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On February 20 2023 00:47 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2023 00:39 LittlePox wrote:On February 20 2023 00:32 swarminfestor wrote:On February 20 2023 00:29 LittlePox wrote:
OK now let's see Oliveira's TvT against Cure, GSL champion.
Cure's GSL trophy happened last two years ago. I didn't think a good measure to compare with the current patch and Oliveira's form in Katowice. Funny that so many Korean player now still playing have won some GSL champions before: Cure Gumiho herO Dark byuN Solar Maru Solar??
Technically, yes since Solar just won GSL Super Tournament.
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If Oliveira lost one map again, then the match is over, right?
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On February 20 2023 00:53 swarminfestor wrote:
If Oliveira lost one map again, then the match is over, right?
no, once you lose you're dead (except for revival/ace...) but the 2nd game is fighting to knock out your opponent, but doesn't affect your team's score
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On February 20 2023 01:01 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2023 00:53 swarminfestor wrote:
If Oliveira lost one map again, then the match is over, right? no, once you lose you're dead (except for revival/ace...) but the 2nd game is fighting to knock out your opponent, but doesn't affect your team's score
KZG can not afford to lose a map from now on.
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On February 20 2023 01:01 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2023 00:53 swarminfestor wrote:
If Oliveira lost one map again, then the match is over, right? no, once you lose you're dead (except for revival/ace...) but the 2nd game is fighting to knock out your opponent, but doesn't affect your team's score
I see. So, right now, DPG just need to prevent from getting 2-0 in row.
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So to beat 200% oliveira we needed online cure to return.
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Every season we have at least one player from DPG coming of nowhere (they look kind of under performed prior to tournament) beating everyone in playoff match. Long time ago, we have Rogue smashing everyone, Dark making decent engagement with Maru, then herO in the last season and now Cure who carries the winning torch in this season.
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Canada8989 Posts
Booo Reynor 
How can you not put your fate in the hands of Oli right now...
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no hydra again from Reynor?
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Cure is the normal man today
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Cure can finally go to military service with some relief and proud. Gosh.
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On February 20 2023 01:17 swarminfestor wrote:
Every season we have at least one player from DPG coming of nowhere (they look kind of under performed prior to tournament) beating everyone in playoff match. Long time ago, we have Rogue smashing everyone, Dark making decent engagement with Maru, then herO in the last season and now Cure who carries the winning torch in this season.
That's the power of having multiple ace players in the team
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Cure suddenly remembered that he's a GSL champion
Nicely done, 3-0 vs reynor and 2-0 vs oliveira
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Happy for Cure, but sad that Oli didn't get the chance at the end.
You have the world champ right there, he's on his own soil in front of his chinese fans, he has been on your team since forever, with many people still doubting he's actually the best player in the world, he's gotta be your ace.
Let him defend his crown.
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On February 20 2023 01:46 Nakajin wrote:
Happy for Cure, but sad that Oli didn't get the chance at the end.
You have the world champ right there, he's on his own soil in front of his chinese fans, he has been on your team since forever, with many people still doubting he's actually the best player in the world, he's gotta be your ace.
I think the ace and the revival can't be the same person? so he probably was going to be the ace
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On February 20 2023 01:48 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2023 01:46 Nakajin wrote:
Happy for Cure, but sad that Oli didn't get the chance at the end.
You have the world champ right there, he's on his own soil in front of his chinese fans, he has been on your team since forever, with many people still doubting he's actually the best player in the world, he's gotta be your ace. pretty sure the ace and the revival can't be the same person? so he probably was going to be the ace
Yeah, but Reynor needed to go 2-0; 2-0; 1-1 for that to matter I think.
You 100% send the one you think is your best player right there.
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Honestly If I am KZ manager i also revive reynor there
If he 1-1 cure i revive oli
U do what is best for your chances. We joke about OSG reviving solar and hiding maru but thats probably the best call given the circumstances
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On February 20 2023 01:52 mintyminmus wrote:
Honestly If I am KZ manager i also revive reynor there
If he 1-1 cure i revive oli
U do what is best for your chances. We joke about OSG reviving solar and hiding maru but thats probably the best call given the circumstances
Reynor needed to 2-0 Cure, then 2-0 Dark, than 1-1 the DPG revive to get to the ace.
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On February 20 2023 01:54 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2023 01:52 mintyminmus wrote:
Honestly If I am KZ manager i also revive reynor there
If he 1-1 cure i revive oli
U do what is best for your chances. We joke about OSG reviving solar and hiding maru but thats probably the best call given the circumstances Reynor needed to 2-0 Cure, then 2-0 Dark, than 1-1 the DPG revive to get to the ace.
Yeah. I meant if Oliveria gets 1-1 cure instead of 0-2 i would revive Oli. Since he 0-2ed and Reynor was the only one who won any map in the series it seems like he would be the better revive.
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On February 20 2023 01:59 mintyminmus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2023 01:54 Nakajin wrote:On February 20 2023 01:52 mintyminmus wrote:
Honestly If I am KZ manager i also revive reynor there
If he 1-1 cure i revive oli
U do what is best for your chances. We joke about OSG reviving solar and hiding maru but thats probably the best call given the circumstances Reynor needed to 2-0 Cure, then 2-0 Dark, than 1-1 the DPG revive to get to the ace. Yeah. I meant if Oliveria gets 1-1 cure instead of 0-2 i would revive Oli. Since he 0-2ed and Reynor was the only one who won any map in the series it seems like he would be the better revive.
Ahh okok
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Thinking of Reynor's ZvT games recently, he liked to produce unnecessarily a tone of lings or producing excessive drones until he realized that he didn't has enough hydras at the right crucial timing.
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Reynor is positive again, so I won't blame him.
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So Cure bombed out of IEM ignominously and then crushes all opposition at WTL. Unexpected. Disappointing from Reynor. Also disappointing that Oli's plot armor didn't hold. But congrats to DPG on a 3rd WTL in a row. Someone always comes through for them. This time it was Cure, somehow :p
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On February 20 2023 03:12 Acrofales wrote:
So Cure bombed out of IEM ignominously and then crushes all opposition at WTL. Unexpected. Disappointing from Reynor. Also disappointing that Oli's plot armor didn't hold. But congrats to DPG on a 3rd WTL in a row. Someone always comes through for them. This time it was Cure, somehow :p
Didn't Cure obtain the same match score as Oliveira? At this level everyone is really close to each other, so it is not super surprising. Still amazing performance from Oliveira overall, but with the victory Cure might get playoff Mvp anyways...
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I had even forgotten Cure was on DPG.
Gj by him, and Kaizi still got from the bottom to the top of the playoffs, not bad at all
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