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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 12:52:47
February 10 2023 12:52 GMT
#21
That is so stupid that queens only take up 1/4 of an Overlord.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
February 10 2023 12:52 GMT
#22
Christ I hate queen attack so much
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
February 10 2023 12:54 GMT
#23
That was quick lmao, hopefully we don’t see too many mech games
WriterMaru
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 12:55:53
February 10 2023 12:55 GMT
#24
That just tilted me. Reynor just broke the meta with that bullshit. It never occured to me that Queens only take up 1/4 of a Drop Overlord, that COMPLETELY changes the timing that you can queen walk, and Overlords can drop creep which eliminates the nerf to transfuse that we had a few patches ago.

He just brought evolved Queen walk back to the meta.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
February 10 2023 12:56 GMT
#25
On February 10 2023 21:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
That just tilted me. Reynor just broke the meta with that bullshit. It never occured to me that Queens only take up 1/4 of a Drop Overlord, that COMPLETELY changes the timing that you can queen walk, and Overlords can drop creep which eliminates the nerf to transfuse that we had a few patches ago.

He just brought evolved Queen walk back to the meta.

I don’t think this works versus normal bio openers so it doesn’t matter, mech does not deserve to be meta it’s painfully boring
WriterMaru
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 12:59:06
February 10 2023 12:57 GMT
#26
On February 10 2023 21:56 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 21:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
That just tilted me. Reynor just broke the meta with that bullshit. It never occured to me that Queens only take up 1/4 of a Drop Overlord, that COMPLETELY changes the timing that you can queen walk, and Overlords can drop creep which eliminates the nerf to transfuse that we had a few patches ago.

He just brought evolved Queen walk back to the meta.

I don’t think this works versus normal bio openers so it doesn’t matter, mech does not deserve to be meta it’s painfully boring


I'm not worried about it vs Terran, I'm worried about it vs Protoss.

AND, that makes that counter timing work against Mech openers into Bio like Hellion/Banshee which has been a standard Bio opening for 10 years.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3223 Posts
February 10 2023 12:58 GMT
#27
This is the same situation when DRG playd Maru back in Code S S1, just walk the Queen with Roach and Terran Battle Mech/Banshee cant deal with them that early. I thought that Cyclone with MagField was the answer to that but this timing just so damn quick.
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 10 2023 13:00 GMT
#28
"I throw towels and marines in your general direction !"
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
BelethielQT
Profile Joined August 2022
90 Posts
February 10 2023 13:02 GMT
#29
On February 10 2023 21:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 21:56 Poopi wrote:
On February 10 2023 21:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
That just tilted me. Reynor just broke the meta with that bullshit. It never occured to me that Queens only take up 1/4 of a Drop Overlord, that COMPLETELY changes the timing that you can queen walk, and Overlords can drop creep which eliminates the nerf to transfuse that we had a few patches ago.

He just brought evolved Queen walk back to the meta.

I don’t think this works versus normal bio openers so it doesn’t matter, mech does not deserve to be meta it’s painfully boring


I'm not worried about it vs Terran, I'm worried about it vs Protoss.

AND, that makes that counter timing work against Mech openers into Bio like Hellion/Banshee which has been a standard Bio opening for 10 years.



you and phantom cant be more wrong
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
February 10 2023 13:03 GMT
#30
lol Gumiho got bopped by 10 lings
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 13:04 GMT
#31
On February 10 2023 22:02 BelethielQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 21:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 21:56 Poopi wrote:
On February 10 2023 21:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
That just tilted me. Reynor just broke the meta with that bullshit. It never occured to me that Queens only take up 1/4 of a Drop Overlord, that COMPLETELY changes the timing that you can queen walk, and Overlords can drop creep which eliminates the nerf to transfuse that we had a few patches ago.

He just brought evolved Queen walk back to the meta.

I don’t think this works versus normal bio openers so it doesn’t matter, mech does not deserve to be meta it’s painfully boring


I'm not worried about it vs Terran, I'm worried about it vs Protoss.

AND, that makes that counter timing work against Mech openers into Bio like Hellion/Banshee which has been a standard Bio opening for 10 years.



you and phantom cant be more wrong


Good talk. Come back when you have something to actually contribute.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3377 Posts
February 10 2023 13:06 GMT
#32
Btw at this point it feels like showtimes way of playing wont work anymore with protoss to me, maybe stats can come back and prove me wrong but i dont see a future in defensive protoss gameplay.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 13:07 GMT
#33
So they're just not going to talk about the absolutely bullshit timing that Reynor hit in game 1? Seriously? Even if you didn't think it was bullshit like I did, it was INCREDIBLY important that we haven't seen in any pro game in this tournament and they're just not going to mention it in the replay?

smh.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
February 10 2023 13:08 GMT
#34
Terran players didn't have solution yet to kill top-tier Zerg, even with Maru, or Clem. I guess we need another ZvZ and herO to dismantle players like Serral, Dark and Reynor in any of playoff matches later.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17919 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 13:08:44
February 10 2023 13:08 GMT
#35
Lol, Reynor. Adding insult to injury. "I did a defensive opening, and it just ended up killing him. I don't know why, but I'll take it"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 13:09 GMT
#36
No one's going to ask him about Game 1? Are you kidding me?! ROFL.

Game 2 wasn't even important, and that's all they focused on.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17919 Posts
February 10 2023 13:11 GMT
#37
On February 10 2023 22:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
No one's going to ask him about Game 1? Are you kidding me?! ROFL.

Game 2 wasn't even important, and that's all they focused on.

His answer to game 1 was "I thought any form of aggression would kill him. And I was right"
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33210 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 13:12:26
February 10 2023 13:11 GMT
#38
On February 10 2023 22:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
So they're just not going to talk about the absolutely bullshit timing that Reynor hit in game 1? Seriously? Even if you didn't think it was bullshit like I did, it was INCREDIBLY important that we haven't seen in any pro game in this tournament and they're just not going to mention it in the replay?

smh.


Calm down man. People have been playing variants of the dropperlord Queen all-in in every match-up since the day they removed their off-creep attack. There's 239089 all-ins you can use to punish greedy mech openers, and this is just another one.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 13:13 GMT
#39
On February 10 2023 22:11 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 22:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
No one's going to ask him about Game 1? Are you kidding me?! ROFL.

Game 2 wasn't even important, and that's all they focused on.

His answer to game 1 was "I thought any form of aggression would kill him. And I was right"


Except that's a lie because Gumiho's Banshees would have easily defended any Roach/Ravager attack that Reynor threw out without the Queens being there.

The queens being part of the attack at that timing while Tanks were being transitioned to was EXACTLY what killed Gumiho, anything else Reynor would have "tried" wouldn't have been even remotely as effective.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 13:14 GMT
#40
On February 10 2023 22:11 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 22:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
So they're just not going to talk about the absolutely bullshit timing that Reynor hit in game 1? Seriously? Even if you didn't think it was bullshit like I did, it was INCREDIBLY important that we haven't seen in any pro game in this tournament and they're just not going to mention it in the replay?

smh.


Calm down man. People have been playing variants of the dropperlord Queen all-in in every match-up since the day they removed their off-creep attack. There's 239089 all-ins you can use to punish greedy mech openers, and this is just another one.


Punish and outright kill when Gumiho had made the units that were supposed to be there specifically to defend against counter aggression are two completely different things.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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