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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO24 Group Stage - Day 2

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States31781 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 09:41:05
February 10 2023 09:06 GMT
#1

IEM Katowice 2023


Friday, Feb 10 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)IEM Katowice/2023

Streams & Casters


uk ESL Main | uk ESL B | uk ESL C

uk ESL Main | uk ESL B | uk ESL C


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Format

Four groups of six players played out in Round-Robin format.

All matches are Bo3.
• First place in each group advances directly to the Quarterfinals.
• Second and third place in each group advance to the Round of 12.

Ties are broken in the following order:
• Overall map difference
• Overall number of map wins
• Match wins amassed between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
• Map difference between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
• Number of map wins between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
• Tie breaker matches
• Coin toss

Map Pool





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AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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Seacow
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden88 Posts
February 10 2023 10:11 GMT
#2
Very interesting standings. Group B was the only one that played out how I thought it would so far. Hoping for a Showtime/Lambo miracle
Early upgrade enthusiast
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States14947 Posts
February 10 2023 11:07 GMT
#3
I can understand putting Spirit on the main stage since Polish crowd and all, but putting the 2-0 Gumiho vs the 2-0 Creator on the C stream seems wack.
@KTVindicare:twitch.tv/ktvindicare youtube.com/ktvindicare Host of the Geeky Bartender podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37cUiMLwFIZ4fNz6qLGxjZ?si=LhiiC08lRgCGjs4Muoma3g&dl_branch=1
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States31781 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 11:32:18
February 10 2023 11:25 GMT
#4
On February 10 2023 20:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
I can understand putting Spirit on the main stage since Polish crowd and all, but putting the 2-0 Gumiho vs the 2-0 Creator on the C stream seems wack.


Seems normal to me

IEM WC has always tried to balance giving everyone a main stage game, putting 'popular' players on stage, and making sure the main stage games have actual stakes (tho this is more for the final round of games).

There's def been times when I've been annoyed cause they favored the popular player too much at the expense of having someone play entirely backstage, but this particular choice seems pretty reasonable (might be last meaningful match for Polish player).
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TL+ Member
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States14947 Posts
February 10 2023 11:41 GMT
#5
Towel Terran fighting! 3-0!
@KTVindicare:twitch.tv/ktvindicare youtube.com/ktvindicare Host of the Geeky Bartender podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37cUiMLwFIZ4fNz6qLGxjZ?si=LhiiC08lRgCGjs4Muoma3g&dl_branch=1
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States31781 Posts
February 10 2023 11:42 GMT
#6
GuMigod #1 seed?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TL+ Member
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
2853 Posts
February 10 2023 11:44 GMT
#7
Dont understand why showtime is playing the same build vs reynor all the time when he is 0-2 already like what is he saving builds for?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States14947 Posts
February 10 2023 11:45 GMT
#8
Reynor vs Gumiho should get dibs on the main stage next right? It's going to determine who takes 1st place in this group.
@KTVindicare:twitch.tv/ktvindicare youtube.com/ktvindicare Host of the Geeky Bartender podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37cUiMLwFIZ4fNz6qLGxjZ?si=LhiiC08lRgCGjs4Muoma3g&dl_branch=1
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13618 Posts
February 10 2023 12:02 GMT
#9
On February 10 2023 20:25 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 20:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
I can understand putting Spirit on the main stage since Polish crowd and all, but putting the 2-0 Gumiho vs the 2-0 Creator on the C stream seems wack.


Seems normal to me

IEM WC has always tried to balance giving everyone a main stage game, putting 'popular' players on stage, and making sure the main stage games have actual stakes (tho this is more for the final round of games).

There's def been times when I've been annoyed cause they favored the popular player too much at the expense of having someone play entirely backstage, but this particular choice seems pretty reasonable (might be last meaningful match for Polish player).

IEM isn't the only guilty party. Remrmber sOs Blizzcon 2013?
Fountain Target Tip
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States14947 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 12:05:50
February 10 2023 12:05 GMT
#10
This clown fiesta of a TvP is holding up the entire tournament lol. The other two series both ended 2-1 by the time this last game started.
@KTVindicare:twitch.tv/ktvindicare youtube.com/ktvindicare Host of the Geeky Bartender podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37cUiMLwFIZ4fNz6qLGxjZ?si=LhiiC08lRgCGjs4Muoma3g&dl_branch=1
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States31781 Posts
February 10 2023 12:09 GMT
#11
On February 10 2023 21:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
This clown fiesta of a TvP is holding up the entire tournament lol. The other two series both ended 2-1 by the time this last game started.


such a hater; u'd never say that if Maru decided to turtle and take a nap
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TL+ Member
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States14947 Posts
February 10 2023 12:13 GMT
#12
On February 10 2023 21:09 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 21:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
This clown fiesta of a TvP is holding up the entire tournament lol. The other two series both ended 2-1 by the time this last game started.


such a hater; u'd never say that if Maru decided to turtle and take a nap


Wax. Come on, look at this game and tell me it's not a clown fiesta.
@KTVindicare:twitch.tv/ktvindicare youtube.com/ktvindicare Host of the Geeky Bartender podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37cUiMLwFIZ4fNz6qLGxjZ?si=LhiiC08lRgCGjs4Muoma3g&dl_branch=1
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States14947 Posts
February 10 2023 12:19 GMT
#13
So Astrea's defense of his probes in this tournament leaves a lot to be desired. The amount of probes he's lost to just not defending against Widow Mines, it's staggering. That one drop at his third/fourth where Astrea just decided to build a cannon after the 3 mines got one shot off and then didn't do anything else so the Mines fired again wiping out the entire mineral line twice.

Is it nerves? or is he this vulnerable to mine drops on ladder too?
@KTVindicare:twitch.tv/ktvindicare youtube.com/ktvindicare Host of the Geeky Bartender podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37cUiMLwFIZ4fNz6qLGxjZ?si=LhiiC08lRgCGjs4Muoma3g&dl_branch=1
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States31781 Posts
February 10 2023 12:19 GMT
#14
wow still no one eliminated according to liquipedia

the soO-run still alive for somebody
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TL+ Member
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States14947 Posts
February 10 2023 12:24 GMT
#15
It's going to come down to some weird tie breaker in this group. Reynor and Gumiho are separating from the pack. Creator needs to beat Reynor to stay ahead of the others.
@KTVindicare:twitch.tv/ktvindicare youtube.com/ktvindicare Host of the Geeky Bartender podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37cUiMLwFIZ4fNz6qLGxjZ?si=LhiiC08lRgCGjs4Muoma3g&dl_branch=1
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France669 Posts
February 10 2023 12:30 GMT
#16
Doesn't Creator need to lose all his maps from now on in order for ShowTime to stand a chance ? That.. seems unlikely.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain16648 Posts
February 10 2023 12:37 GMT
#17
Is the tie breaker map score? Or h2h?

If Spirit beats Showtime, but loses to Gumiho (seems like a reasonable outcome given their current performances), and Creator loses to Astrea and Reynor, is Spirit out because he lost to Creator? Or does he have a shot based on map scores?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States14947 Posts
February 10 2023 12:38 GMT
#18
On February 10 2023 21:37 Acrofales wrote:
Is the tie breaker map score? Or h2h?

If Spirit beats Showtime, but loses to Gumiho (seems like a reasonable outcome given their current performances), and Creator loses to Astrea and Reynor, is Spirit out because he lost to Creator? Or does he have a shot based on map scores?


IIRC it goes by map score first before it goes H2H.
@KTVindicare:twitch.tv/ktvindicare youtube.com/ktvindicare Host of the Geeky Bartender podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37cUiMLwFIZ4fNz6qLGxjZ?si=LhiiC08lRgCGjs4Muoma3g&dl_branch=1
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States31781 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 12:38:44
February 10 2023 12:38 GMT
#19
On February 10 2023 21:37 Acrofales wrote:
Is the tie breaker map score? Or h2h?

If Spirit beats Showtime, but loses to Gumiho (seems like a reasonable outcome given their current performances), and Creator loses to Astrea and Reynor, is Spirit out because he lost to Creator? Or does he have a shot based on map scores?


it's explained in detail in the OP
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TL+ Member
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain16648 Posts
February 10 2023 12:41 GMT
#20
On February 10 2023 21:38 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 21:37 Acrofales wrote:
Is the tie breaker map score? Or h2h?

If Spirit beats Showtime, but loses to Gumiho (seems like a reasonable outcome given their current performances), and Creator loses to Astrea and Reynor, is Spirit out because he lost to Creator? Or does he have a shot based on map scores?


it's explained in detail in the OP

Oooooooh. Nice!
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