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[GSL 2022] Code S - Ro10 Group A - Day 1

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Last Edited: 2022-04-10 18:23:36
April 10 2022 18:22 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Monday, Apr 11 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2022/Season 1

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Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Group Stage 1:
  • Dual Tournament Format.
  • All matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to the Group Stage 2.

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Group A


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(Z)Rogue vs (Z)RagnaroK
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(T)ByuN vs (P)Trap
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(T)Ryung vs (Z)Rogue
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(P)Trap vs (Z)RagnaroK
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(T)ByuN vs (T)Ryung

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SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1144 Posts
April 11 2022 09:08 GMT
#2
gogo ryung!
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-11 09:40:46
April 11 2022 09:36 GMT
#3
I really hate the fact that these are bo3. Its such a problem for me that it makes me not like this new format at all despite the round robin seemed like it could have been interesting otherwise...

Its just, this is ro10, and for that bo3 is just too gimmicky and weaker players with weird stuff have potential to score more upsets. Which I absolutely love in bo1 and bo3 formats otherwise, but not in a gsl "quarter final". It diminishes the importance of this stage of such a tournament.

Hope they change this in next seasons.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 11 2022 09:43 GMT
#4
On April 11 2022 18:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I really hate the fact that these are bo3. Its such a problem for me that it makes me not like this new format at all despite the round robin seemed like it could have been interesting otherwise...

Its just, this is ro10, and for that bo3 is just too gimmicky and weaker players with weird stuff have potential to score more upsets. Which I absolutely love in bo1 and bo3 formats otherwise, but not in a gsl "quarter final". It diminishes the importance of this stage of such a tournament.

Hope they change this in next seasons.


Well, Bo5 would take forever with a Round robin format.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2022 09:48 GMT
#5
On April 11 2022 18:43 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2022 18:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I really hate the fact that these are bo3. Its such a problem for me that it makes me not like this new format at all despite the round robin seemed like it could have been interesting otherwise...

Its just, this is ro10, and for that bo3 is just too gimmicky and weaker players with weird stuff have potential to score more upsets. Which I absolutely love in bo1 and bo3 formats otherwise, but not in a gsl "quarter final". It diminishes the importance of this stage of such a tournament.

Hope they change this in next seasons.


Well, Bo5 would take forever with a Round robin format.


It would take longer yes, but maybe have 2 less matches per day and add 1 more round? I am sure there would be a good way to make it a bo5 and not be too lengthy.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
April 11 2022 10:03 GMT
#6
Wow Ragnarok with pure Roach Ravager on worse upgrade beating Rogue? Never saw this coming.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 11 2022 10:03 GMT
#7
That game sucked, but Arty and Tasteless killed it. Had so much fun.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
April 11 2022 10:04 GMT
#8
On April 11 2022 19:03 tigera6 wrote:
Wow Ragnarok with pure Roach Ravager on worse upgrade beating Rogue? Never saw this coming.

I'm quite speechless
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 11 2022 10:04 GMT
#9
On April 11 2022 19:03 tigera6 wrote:
Wow Ragnarok with pure Roach Ravager on worse upgrade beating Rogue? Never saw this coming.


When did he pull ahead? Whenever I checked the workers, Rogue seemed to be doing better and resources lost he seemed to be up as well. And suddenly his supply plummeted.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2022 10:07 GMT
#10
On April 11 2022 19:04 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2022 19:03 tigera6 wrote:
Wow Ragnarok with pure Roach Ravager on worse upgrade beating Rogue? Never saw this coming.


When did he pull ahead? Whenever I checked the workers, Rogue seemed to be doing better and resources lost he seemed to be up as well. And suddenly his supply plummeted.


He massively screwed up an engagement in the middle of the map and was not reacting properly to the burrow movement roaches counter attacks losing his roach warren. Also he was just starting to finally build lurkers but in the worst possible time. Ragnarok never stopped building roaches and just caught him off guard. Very sloppy play there from Rogue he should have easily won that game to be honest.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 11 2022 10:07 GMT
#11
On April 11 2022 19:04 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2022 19:03 tigera6 wrote:
Wow Ragnarok with pure Roach Ravager on worse upgrade beating Rogue? Never saw this coming.


When did he pull ahead? Whenever I checked the workers, Rogue seemed to be doing better and resources lost he seemed to be up as well. And suddenly his supply plummeted.


When he killed 30 drones with 12 burrowed roaches, and then the warren a few mins later.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2022 10:11 GMT
#12
The games suck but the commentary is gold
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 11 2022 10:21 GMT
#13
What the hell is this series.
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
April 11 2022 10:21 GMT
#14
?
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 11 2022 10:21 GMT
#15
On April 11 2022 19:21 Swisslink wrote:
What the hell is this series.

Yes
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2022 10:22 GMT
#16
Uhm, so why did Ragnarok decide to completely throw away a won game?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-11 10:29:45
April 11 2022 10:28 GMT
#17
On April 11 2022 19:22 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Uhm, so why did Ragnarok decide to completely throw away a won game?


Maybe because he lost the third base during the aggressive attack on Rogue's bases made him thinking that massing with ling+banes later wont be feasible enough.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
April 11 2022 10:29 GMT
#18
Yeah, all Ragnarok need to do is buidling 3-4 Spores around his bases, and he can do whatever the hell he want with lingbane into Rogue base, going to Spire when Rogue was ahead by 12 Mutas is just not very good.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 11 2022 10:30 GMT
#19
Top3 control boys
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 11 2022 10:31 GMT
#20
On April 11 2022 19:28 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2022 19:22 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Uhm, so why did Ragnarok decide to completely throw away a won game?


Maybe because he lost the third base during the aggressive attack on Rogue's bases made him thinking that massing with ling+banes later wont be feasible enough.


I think he completely misread that situation there and didn't realize how far ahead he was.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 11 2022 10:32 GMT
#21
Wait. Trap hasn't won Code S?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 11 2022 10:34 GMT
#22
On April 11 2022 19:32 Mozdk wrote:
Wait. Trap hasn't won Code S?


Na, "just" a bunch of Super Tournaments.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
April 11 2022 10:41 GMT
#23
On April 11 2022 19:32 Mozdk wrote:
Wait. Trap hasn't won Code S?


Surprisingly, Dear got the one that Trap hadn't attained it yet.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16006 Posts
April 11 2022 10:54 GMT
#24
Trap looks in-form
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
April 11 2022 11:10 GMT
#25
Trap looked as rock solid as Stats.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
April 11 2022 11:16 GMT
#26
Trap looks good and all, but Byun just keep playing the same style is just nut. His winning depending if he can catch the opponent army off-guard, he delayed the tech and upgrade to use mass force, but that just doesnt work. This is like watching a bull-fight to be frank.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1322 Posts
April 11 2022 11:19 GMT
#27
When Trap uses Templar, they get their Storms off and the Terran looks bad.

When everyone else uses Templar, they get EMP'd and the Terran looks amazing.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 11 2022 11:22 GMT
#28
Ez for Ryung
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
April 11 2022 11:31 GMT
#29
loved that little changeling following ryung's army
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2022 11:33 GMT
#30
On April 11 2022 19:29 tigera6 wrote:
Yeah, all Ragnarok need to do is buidling 3-4 Spores around his bases, and he can do whatever the hell he want with lingbane into Rogue base, going to Spire when Rogue was ahead by 12 Mutas is just not very good.


All he needed to do was not go mutas. He made the only possible wrong choice that could lose him a won game. I just didnt understand it at all hehe
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16006 Posts
April 11 2022 11:41 GMT
#31
Never seen an scv pull vs Zerg win... or even attempted
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
711 Posts
April 11 2022 11:45 GMT
#32
On April 11 2022 20:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Never seen an scv pull vs Zerg win... or even attempted


I kinda like the idea vs roach-based compositions
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
April 11 2022 11:50 GMT
#33
On April 11 2022 20:45 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2022 20:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Never seen an scv pull vs Zerg win... or even attempted


I kinda like the idea vs roach-based compositions



yeah if there are no banelings is as good or better
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2022 11:51 GMT
#34
Rogue didnt really show up today but in the end got the 2 wins anyway. Says quite a lot about this group to be honest.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
April 11 2022 11:53 GMT
#35
I'm pretty sure Rogue was super complacent today. Almost got punished for it, but managed to close it out.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
April 11 2022 11:54 GMT
#36
I think is hard to show off vs cheese though.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
April 11 2022 11:55 GMT
#37
He definitely got cheesed a lot, but he threw that first game against Ragnarok entirely on his own
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 11 2022 12:12 GMT
#38
Did not expect RagnaroK to win the first game vs. Rogue AND Trap.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2022 12:15 GMT
#39
Lol Trap
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
April 11 2022 12:15 GMT
#40
Very in form he is today
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
711 Posts
April 11 2022 12:16 GMT
#41
ragnagod HYPE
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
April 11 2022 12:16 GMT
#42
RagnaroK was strong but covid prevented us from knowing it
WriterMaru
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
April 11 2022 12:30 GMT
#43
Ryung on fire.... outmicroing ByuN's reapers lol
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
711 Posts
April 11 2022 12:34 GMT
#44
i'll take it
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
April 11 2022 12:34 GMT
#45
what a crazy game to end the series.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
April 11 2022 12:55 GMT
#46
Told you aligulac was lying! Poor ByuN though, hard group for the terrans so far.
WriterMaru
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
April 11 2022 12:56 GMT
#47
That siege line gave me some WW1 vibes
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 11 2022 12:57 GMT
#48
Does anyone know what is the format of the tiebreakers?
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-11 13:02:35
April 11 2022 13:01 GMT
#49
On April 11 2022 21:57 Azzur wrote:
Does anyone know what is the format of the tiebreakers?


# Ties are broken in the following order:

- Overall 'win point' difference
- Overall number of 'map wins'
- 'Match win' between tied players
- 'Win point' difference between the tied players
- Number of 'map wins' between the tied players
- Tie breaker match (Bo1)
- Coin toss

Was mentioned on stream at the beginning.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 11 2022 13:04 GMT
#50
On April 11 2022 22:01 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2022 21:57 Azzur wrote:
Does anyone know what is the format of the tiebreakers?


# Ties are broken in the following order:

- Overall 'win point' difference
- Overall number of 'map wins'
- 'Match win' between tied players
- 'Win point' difference between the tied players
- Number of 'map wins' between the tied players
- Tie breaker match (Bo1)
- Coin toss

Was mentioned on stream at the beginning.

Awesome, thx!
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 11 2022 13:07 GMT
#51
Liking the new format - if I could change things, I would make it bo5 for the Ro6 and bo7 for the Ro4.

If that makes it too many games, I would settle for bo5 for the elimination matches in the Ro6.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 11 2022 13:12 GMT
#52
Hang on ro6 is bo3 as well? And semi is bo5? Good damn thats so stupid... Why?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
April 11 2022 14:18 GMT
#53
Byun look unprepared and lacking discipline/strategy, hopefully he can play the spoiler role and knock the 2 Zerg off a bit. As things stand, I would pick Rogue as 1st and Ragnarok in 2nd, 3rd would be up to Ryung vs Trap. Despite Trap winning against Byun, I think Ryung could have a good chance against him, just like Gumiho did in previous round.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-11 14:21:28
April 11 2022 14:21 GMT
#54
On April 11 2022 22:12 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Hang on ro6 is bo3 as well? And semi is bo5? Good damn thats so stupid... Why?

The ro6 is just a shorten version of the typical group stage in GSL, where you skip the first 2 matches. Yeah, its pretty bad idea to be in Bo3.
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
April 11 2022 17:23 GMT
#55
On April 11 2022 23:21 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2022 22:12 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Hang on ro6 is bo3 as well? And semi is bo5? Good damn thats so stupid... Why?

The ro6 is just a shorten version of the typical group stage in GSL, where you skip the first 2 matches. Yeah, its pretty bad idea to be in Bo3.


Na it’s a fantastic idea

Gives my toss boys a higher chance to win due to shorter series

GSL here we comeee
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-12 10:02:21
April 12 2022 05:20 GMT
#56
Btw I just realized that the main way to determine how players win, is by the "Overall 'win point' difference"...
NOT match wins.

For example, let's say Rogue goes 2-1, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1. He beats 4 players, but he's only at +4.
Let's say Trap goes 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, 1-2. He beats 3 players and loses to 1, but he's at +5.
Trap advances in 1st place, not Rogue.

It makes sense in a way but it's strange too. Normally the idea of a Bo3 is to give you chances for the better player to win. So if Rogue wins 2-1 vs all 4 players, normally you'd say it doesn't really matter that he didn't dominate those 4 players, he still won the 4 matches which proves consistency and skill.

But in this RR format, it puts a lot of emphasis on map wins and how hard you beat your opponent. It's not wrong but it's definitely interesting in that it puts weight on how hard you beat your opponent, and losing 1-2 isn't too bad since it was still a close match. I would say this way is more fun though, and since players still end up playing 4 matches in a RR, it still gives enough chances for players to perform.

On April 12 2022 02:23 TossHeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2022 23:21 tigera6 wrote:
On April 11 2022 22:12 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Hang on ro6 is bo3 as well? And semi is bo5? Good damn thats so stupid... Why?

The ro6 is just a shorten version of the typical group stage in GSL, where you skip the first 2 matches. Yeah, its pretty bad idea to be in Bo3.


Na it’s a fantastic idea

Gives my toss boys a higher chance to win due to shorter series

GSL here we comeee


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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 12 2022 21:44 GMT
#57
On April 12 2022 14:20 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Btw I just realized that the main way to determine how players win, is by the "Overall 'win point' difference"...
NOT match wins.

For example, let's say Rogue goes 2-1, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1. He beats 4 players, but he's only at +4.
Let's say Trap goes 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, 1-2. He beats 3 players and loses to 1, but he's at +5.
Trap advances in 1st place, not Rogue.



I don't think that's correct? These rules only apply in case of a tie - therefore not if Rogue has one victory more than Trap.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
April 13 2022 05:48 GMT
#58
On April 13 2022 06:44 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2022 14:20 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Btw I just realized that the main way to determine how players win, is by the "Overall 'win point' difference"...
NOT match wins.

For example, let's say Rogue goes 2-1, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1. He beats 4 players, but he's only at +4.
Let's say Trap goes 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, 1-2. He beats 3 players and loses to 1, but he's at +5.
Trap advances in 1st place, not Rogue.



I don't think that's correct? These rules only apply in case of a tie - therefore not if Rogue has one victory more than Trap.


Ohh I gotcha, they were only listing tiebreaker rules not rules in general. Thanks!
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
April 13 2022 07:08 GMT
#59
Well, I have to admit it. Round Robins can actually be fun.
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