On February 27 2022 08:20 Argonauta wrote:
Ok maru lost, we are all sad now. Can we go over and enjoy the ZvZs?
Ok maru lost, we are all sad now. Can we go over and enjoy the ZvZs?
You forgot the last TvZ.
Or was that the joke?
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 27 2022 08:20 Argonauta wrote: Ok maru lost, we are all sad now. Can we go over and enjoy the ZvZs? You forgot the last TvZ. Or was that the joke? | ||
DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On February 27 2022 08:22 swarminfestor wrote: What are probabilities that Rogue is facing Heromarine in the final? 0% Because Bunny will destroy him. | ||
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Acrofales
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dysenterymd
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On February 27 2022 08:22 swarminfestor wrote: What are probabilities that Rogue is facing Heromarine in the final? Heromarine playing out of his mind to beat Reynor only to be dumpstered by Rogue would be hilarious. It's not impossible but Reynor is looking too good even for the largest Gabe possible... | ||
Lexender
Mexico2648 Posts
On February 27 2022 08:10 WombaT wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2022 08:00 Acrofales wrote: On February 27 2022 07:55 NotSoHappy wrote: If the Zerg player has near-perfect mechanics and game sense, he will almost always win. Serral recognized this earlier than any other Zerg and put it into practice. Perfect mechanics, scouting and response. Also knowledge when to drone and when to build army. OH wait I don't think the whole premise is fair. If it was about being perfect, we wouldn't have 3 Zerg be *this* dominant, with entirely different playstyles. Reynor is nothing like Serral is nothing like Rogue Serral plays a very scouting + response focused game, whereas Reynor relies almost entirely on his ridiculous mechanics. Rogue does far more mindgaming and general build order trickery. There's obviously something about the last patch that put Zerg slightly over the top, combined with a rather uniquely good crop of zerg players. The big 4 of Zerg are absurdly good. Zerg might be in need of a retuning, better maps, Protoss certainly seem like it. But it’s a tad overblown, if Zerg was outright broken and those players weren’t incredible, that next tier of Zergs like Solar, DRG, Lambo, Rag, Armani, Elazer etc would be making more hay than they are. The WoL BL/Infestor era you saw Zergs post results they never marched before or after, it’s not something we’re seeing now Its been what, 4 years now? We have seen the same patrons and results over and over, of protoss being a dead race and of zerg dominating almost everything. There has to be a point in wich the same results hapening time and again when one goes "Ok, there is something fundamentaly wrong here". | ||
Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 27 2022 08:09 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2022 08:06 dysenterymd wrote: On February 27 2022 08:04 Pandain wrote: On February 27 2022 08:00 Acrofales wrote: On February 27 2022 07:55 NotSoHappy wrote: If the Zerg player has near-perfect mechanics and game sense, he will almost always win. Serral recognized this earlier than any other Zerg and put it into practice. Perfect mechanics, scouting and response. Also knowledge when to drone and when to build army. OH wait I don't think the whole premise is fair. If it was about being perfect, we wouldn't have 3 Zerg be *this* dominant, with entirely different playstyles. Reynor is nothing like Serral is nothing like Rogue Serral plays a very scouting + response focused game, whereas Reynor relies almost entirely on his ridiculous mechanics. Rogue does far more mindgaming and general build order trickery. There's obviously something about the last patch that put Zerg slightly over the top, combined with a rather uniquely good crop of zerg players. I think just the remaining top zerg players are better. TY and Innovation retired recently. Classic/stats/hero all retired or came back from the military and we know how that goes. Meanwhile - only top zerg to leave in last four years was soO, and he was inconsistent at best. And if you removed foreigner land it would be completely even still. It's just that Reynor and Serral are genuinely the best players from Europe and they happened to pick Zerg. And I don't think anyone is debating that they are the best, even ignoring race. Honestly I think Protoss is just straight up weak, they were struggling to win GSL/world championships even before all their best players retired. Terran I think it is more about the retirements I kinda agree with Reynor. Just delete protoss. They have by far the largest number of units that are just not fun at all to play against. Disruptors are miserable, DT, Carriers, Tempests, Void Rays. Delete Protoss and the rest of the game is easier to balance too ![]() Seem to have forgotten Roaches, Lurkers, Infestors, Corruptors, Brood Lords, Vipers and Swarm Hosts. Maybe there's another race that can get deleted. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On February 27 2022 08:10 WombaT wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2022 08:00 Acrofales wrote: On February 27 2022 07:55 NotSoHappy wrote: If the Zerg player has near-perfect mechanics and game sense, he will almost always win. Serral recognized this earlier than any other Zerg and put it into practice. Perfect mechanics, scouting and response. Also knowledge when to drone and when to build army. OH wait I don't think the whole premise is fair. If it was about being perfect, we wouldn't have 3 Zerg be *this* dominant, with entirely different playstyles. Reynor is nothing like Serral is nothing like Rogue Serral plays a very scouting + response focused game, whereas Reynor relies almost entirely on his ridiculous mechanics. Rogue does far more mindgaming and general build order trickery. There's obviously something about the last patch that put Zerg slightly over the top, combined with a rather uniquely good crop of zerg players. The big 4 of Zerg are absurdly good. Zerg might be in need of a retuning, better maps, Protoss certainly seem like it. But it’s a tad overblown, if Zerg was outright broken and those players weren’t incredible, that next tier of Zergs like Solar, DRG, Lambo, Rag, Armani, Elazer etc would be making more hay than they are. The WoL BL/Infestor era you saw Zergs post results they never marched before or after, it’s not something we’re seeing now If we only have 5 top players atm is it really that surprising 4 of them are playing the same race? It's hard to tell whether it's really because Zerg is OP or if it's because 4 out of the 5 best current players coincidentally picked the same race. Waxangel said some of the same stuff earlier, except he explained it better. Edit: Just realized I quoted the wrong post. I'm just gonna leave it here anyway. | ||
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Poopi
France12887 Posts
The light is flashing in my hostel (not a proper room bathroom is shared) room, looks like the StarCraft gods are trolling me hardcore | ||
Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 27 2022 08:35 Poopi wrote: Who is winning between Rogue and Bunny? The light is flashing in my hostel (not a proper room bathroom is shared) room, looks like the StarCraft gods are trolling me hardcore 1-1. | ||
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