EPT[IEM] Katowice 2022 - Knockout Stage - Day 1 - Page 34
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France24239 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:26 WombaT wrote: It’s got to be so, so gruelling to play that way, for that long Maru gets a lot of praise for his defensive master classes, as he rightly should, both these guys and Dark especially that one game put on a clinic I disagree, I lost some respect for Dark following that series. | ||
Poopi
France13000 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:28 Nakajin wrote: Hey don't sleep on Bunny! (Jk, he's super dead) Might go back to hotel after Maru tbh especially if he loses, it’s gonna end up after midnight or something :x | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:25 Hider wrote: That was kinda weird, in game 2 and 3 Dark looked significantly better at controlling this composition and in game 5 Reynor easily outclassed him. To be honest game 5 was never particularly close - just drawn out. Dark was turtling hard against aggression in those games though. Dark may still be better at controlling vipers but of course it's gonna look better for you when you're purposely sitting there with a more efficient army + defender's advantage. In the last game where some of the engagements were on more neutral ground, and Reynor rounded out his composition much better, it was clear that the skill difference between the two is tiny. In general, I thought Dark played really smart all series except some judgement errors in the last game. And mechanically, Reynor was unreal every game. Amazing stuff from both. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:27 M2 wrote: I personally think that turtling (especially of these propotions) is a disgrace for the ZvZ match up. It insults the Zerg roots and origins back to vanilla starcraft. It shows some of the major holes in SC2 designs It's definitely not true to the roots of Brood War. The closest thing to LoTV ZvZ is probably Brood War TvT (with Vipers being replaced by dropships). Still I think it was a great series and at this point I just accepted that SC2 and BW are two completely different games. I still love and follow both games though. | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:30 Poopi wrote: Might go back to hotel after Maru tbh especially if he loses, it’s gonna end up after midnight or something :x Low passion. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:30 Poopi wrote: Might go back to hotel after Maru tbh especially if he loses, it’s gonna end up after midnight or something :x Nah, I'm just kidding, don't lose hope the little rabbit can do it, don't miss it! | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27206 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:29 nojok wrote: I disagree, I lost some respect for Dark following that series. He’s managed to beat mass immortals with ultras this tournament alone. Of the top 4 Zergs he’s consistently the most entertaining and varied, I think he’s entitled to a bit of slack in trying to take down a player of Reynor’s calibre | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12131 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:26 Poopi wrote: This series was torture and in the end Reynor win, that plus the insufferably biased crowd  feelsBad.Hopefully Maru and HM save the tournament for Sunday Doubt that, this is gonna be another Zerg fiesta while everybody will be saying that everything is fine. | ||
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France24239 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
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Poopi
France13000 Posts
This horrible stalemate / long death animation killed my passion, especially if Maru doesn’t save the tournament with a victory versus Serral | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:35 Nakajin wrote: How in the world did HM and Solar only played each other 6 times? Solar never plays EU cups | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:33 WombaT wrote: He’s managed to beat mass immortals with ultras this tournament alone. Of the top 4 Zergs he’s consistently the most entertaining and varied, I think he’s entitled to a bit of slack in trying to take down a player of Reynor’s calibre A bit of slack? It's a competitive tournament, he can literally do whatever he wants against whoever he wins as long as he isn't abusing some game-breaking bug or breaking rules. Not sure why anyone would lose respect for any player for trying to a win a match lol. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3135 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:26 tigera6 wrote: Dark decided to play the long game, and in the end he lost patience to his own style. Reynor really show how complete as a player he is, can play any style extremely well, even the ones that he dislike. Dark didn't lose patience, he did what he did the first time--get up to a decent base count, build up an unbeatable lurker/viper/hydra and mass spores and spines camp army as soon as possible and wait for Reynor to attack into him ineffeciently. And I mean, it worked perfectly the first time so it's hard to fault him. Reynor, though, adjusted his whole strategy specifically to beat that. He focused on space control, took every base in the space he controlled just to mine gas from them, and deliberately built a weaker army with mostly hydras and a few roaches and fewer spores/spines to save resources for the abduct wars. Until Dark ran out of gas. But again, hard to fault Dark. Not only did it work the first time, but Reynor is known as an aggressive player, so the ultra-turtle camp style is a good call in itself. But major props to Reynor for being able to adjust so massively and tailor a strat to beat something he hadn't played against very much in the middle of a tense long series at the global finals. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:35 Poopi wrote: This horrible stalemate / long death animation killed my passion, especially if Maru doesn’t save the tournament with a victory versus Serral That was a really great series with a brilliant level from both players, so if it was torture for you, then your passion was dead to begin with. | ||
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tigera6
3502 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:29 Hider wrote: He didn't lose patience - he was losing at his own play and had to make a play. If anything, he waited way too long. He should have taken way more risks with attacks earlier in the game given how poorly he traded at straight viper-play. Even while having more vipers and more static defense he couldn't trade well. Up unitl the moment when Dark switched the position to the bottom right, he was behind in unit loss but not much. The reason his bank was way behind because Reynor was mining bases on Dark side and also because he made lots of Spores. But when Dark relocate his army with the base, he didnt spread creep and left the spores to die on their own. Thats sign of impatience to me. Reynor just beat Dark at his own style and Dark jumped the gun in the end. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:37 blooblooblahblah wrote: That was a really great series with a brilliant level from both players, so if it was torture for you, then your passion was dead to begin with. To be fair there's nothing quite as crushing a seeing your favorite lose while in the middle of an hostile crowd | ||
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