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On February 26 2022 07:42 Zambrah wrote:Ill put money on either Rogue or Reynor to win, Reynor looks exceptional atm and Rogue has the ideal bracket. Serral and Dark have a chance too and fuck me thats all Zergs, lol. Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 07:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 07:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 26 2022 07:38 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Zoun/Heromarine/Solar is actually a fairly weak bracket there. weak is a very harsh word, let's say the semifinalist coming from this part of the bracket will be unexpected while we'll lose at least one of Maru / Serral, two of Trap / Reynor / Dark etc As a fan of both underdogs and Protoss, I'm all in on top half bracket :D. You have good taste
As a person who gets up two hours after the broadcast starts, I am also going to miss those games, so fuck me I guess  .
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55566 Posts
It's gonna be business as usual, the last Protoss hope will stand alone against the Swarm and get absolutely dumpstered in 30 minutes even if they get to the finals.
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Best case scenario for Maru is Solar emerges from the upper bracket - which isn't impossible. Then it's mostly just Maru vs. Serral/Rogue to take the (easier) finals. He's done it before!
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Predictions (might as well go for them as long as I hold that #1 liquibets spot ^^) :
Trap 2-3 Dark
HM 1-3 Zoun
Dream 1-3 Maru
Rogue 3-0 Ryung
Reynor 2-3 Dark
Solar 2-3 Zoun
Serral 2-3 Maru
Rogue 3-0 Bunny
Dark 3-1 Zoun
Maru 2-3 Rogue
Dark 2-4 Rogue
(I don't follow SC2 seriously anymore, there is as much heart as there is head in there  )
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reynor vs serral/rogue finals
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On February 26 2022 07:47 Elentos wrote:
It's gonna be business as usual, the last Protoss hope will stand alone against the Swarm and get absolutely dumpstered in 30 minutes even if they get to the finals.
oh man I'm getting terrible flashbacks just imagining another Protoss vs Zerg final
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I think the finals is bound to be a ZvZ, with a ~10% chance of a Zoun vZ which is still a ZvZ. Or Maru will make me wrong 
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On February 26 2022 07:48 Captain Peabody wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 07:47 Elentos wrote:
It's gonna be business as usual, the last Protoss hope will stand alone against the Swarm and get absolutely dumpstered in 30 minutes even if they get to the finals. oh man I'm getting terrible flashbacks just imagining another Protoss vs Zerg final
I don't want it to happen, but Rogue 4-1 Trap in the finals with a bunch of queen walks would be very funny.
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I'm hoping for a Reynor vs Maru finals with 7 games and either one winning. Could see it happening too.
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On February 26 2022 07:51 EquilasH wrote:
I'm hoping for a Reynor vs Maru finals with 7 games and either one winning. Could see it happening too.
it's possible and that would be great. But Dark has huge Korean pride, if he gets through Trap he'll have extra motivation vs Reynor. That's why I predicted 3-2 for Dark in that scenario. But we'll see
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Quarters will be fire that's for sure.
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On February 26 2022 07:53 Pandain wrote:
Quarters will be fire that's for sure.
Definitely, although I'd say Rogue - Bunny (rather probable) could be one-sided.
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On February 26 2022 07:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 07:51 EquilasH wrote:
I'm hoping for a Reynor vs Maru finals with 7 games and either one winning. Could see it happening too. it's possible and that would be great. But Dark has huge Korean pride, if he gets through Trap he'll have extra motivation vs Reynor. That's why I predicted 3-2 for Dark in that scenario. But we'll see
Yeah I definitely think Dark has a good chance vs Reynor if they meet in quarters. Probably even above 50% - I much prefer Reynor's TvZ to Dark's though.
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On February 26 2022 04:08 Elentos wrote:
The fact that it says "DEATH, AND THE WORLDS ENDING" above the ticker bar for the entirety of every break on the B stream doesn't seem very sensitive to me.
I'll address this - I was thinking of the LOTR quote (theoden riding) pairing with the group of death and the final day of group stages. In the chaos of everything else, the real world implications didn't cross my mind and I changed it when I realized. Very sorry about that, will do better next time! I absolutely support the plight of the people of Ukraine and am horrified by what is happening.
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On February 26 2022 07:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 07:53 Pandain wrote:
Quarters will be fire that's for sure. Definitely, although I'd say Rogue - Bunny (rather probable) could be one-sided.
Could be - but I could see Bunny also put up a surprisingly fierce fight.
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On February 26 2022 07:59 BeoMulf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 04:08 Elentos wrote:
The fact that it says "DEATH, AND THE WORLDS ENDING" above the ticker bar for the entirety of every break on the B stream doesn't seem very sensitive to me. I'll address this - I was thinking of the LOTR quote (theoden riding) pairing with the group of death and the final day of group stages. In the chaos of everything else, the real world implications didn't cross my mind and I changed it when I realized. Very sorry about that, will do better next time! I absolutely support the plight of the people of Ukraine and am horrified by what is happening.
yeah I figured you were quoting LOTR lol
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France12907 Posts
I really hope there will be a non zerg player in Spodek Sunday!
Very sad for Clem, and since I didn’t have much battery / data left I could not really see most of his matches. They showed too much Reynor in main stage and not enough Clem, as the reigning world champion and a crowd entertainer I understand but Clem has dominated the EU region this season, feels bad not to have him interviewed at least once…
Maru looked so tired against Zoun before the match, if he somehow makes it to Sunday ro4 alive he has a decent shot playing « early »
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 26 2022 07:51 EquilasH wrote:
I'm hoping for a Reynor vs Maru finals with 7 games and either one winning. Could see it happening too.
If Maru gets to the finals(which I seriously doubt) it will be most probably after 2 TvZs. At that point - unless Trap or Zoun make a miracle - he's gonna lose simply to the fact that the Zerg saw the games and prepared properly.
So the best possible finals may be Maru v P, otherwise it will be a shitshow - ZvZ, ZvP where Protoss revealed builds or ZvT where Terran revealed builds.
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On February 26 2022 08:43 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 07:51 EquilasH wrote:
I'm hoping for a Reynor vs Maru finals with 7 games and either one winning. Could see it happening too. If Maru gets to the finals(which I seriously doubt) it will be most probably after 2 TvZs. At that point - unless Trap or Zoun make a miracle - he's gonna lose simply to the fact that the Zerg saw the games and prepared properly. So the best possible finals may be Maru v P, otherwise it will be a shitshow - ZvZ, ZvP where Protoss revealed builds or ZvT where Terran revealed builds.
What are you talking about? Maru is a skill base player not a BO base. Moreover he is a Terran, not Protoss that has to surprises the Zerg by gimmick builds. His TvZ is turtle late game and everyone knows that no matter what.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On February 26 2022 09:52 parksonsc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 08:43 deacon.frost wrote:On February 26 2022 07:51 EquilasH wrote:
I'm hoping for a Reynor vs Maru finals with 7 games and either one winning. Could see it happening too. If Maru gets to the finals(which I seriously doubt) it will be most probably after 2 TvZs. At that point - unless Trap or Zoun make a miracle - he's gonna lose simply to the fact that the Zerg saw the games and prepared properly. So the best possible finals may be Maru v P, otherwise it will be a shitshow - ZvZ, ZvP where Protoss revealed builds or ZvT where Terran revealed builds. What are you talking about? Maru is a skill base player not a BO base. Moreover he is a Terran, not Protoss that has to surprises the Zerg by gimmick builds. His TvZ is turtle late game and everyone knows that no matter what.
He can also heavily push you with the kind of cutthroat tempo push style that Clem had such success with against Serral and Reynor in EU. Honestly I haven’t seen him play it [i]quite[\i] as well as some of those Clem TvZ clinics, but he’s certainly capable of it.
There’s nothing to stop Maru, if he plays well. Maybe in a Bo3 build intersections can play a part but when we’re getting to Bo5+
As you say, builds are never not important, but in TvZ it’s a game of execution and tactical manouvering and raw mechanics. Especially given it’s a weekend tournaments.
TY showcased some killer builds and smart timings in his latter GSL runs, you can play that way, but you need time.
I fear Ryung doesn’t quite have the necessary prep time to compensate for his relative lack of mechanics compared to Rogue and will get absolutely butchered but hoping he can make a series of it.
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