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Denmark9362 Posts
On February 26 2022 05:14 Pandain wrote: Guys this scarlett clem game is actually insane too IMO this was candidate for best sc2 game of all time. This had everything. action-packed back and forth that came down to the tiniest margins at the end. I recommend everyone to check out the VOD on catz's stream. | ||
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tigera6
3221 Posts
On February 26 2022 09:52 parksonsc wrote: What are you talking about? Maru is a skill base player not a BO base. Moreover he is a Terran, not Protoss that has to surprises the Zerg by gimmick builds. His TvZ is turtle late game and everyone knows that no matter what. Yeah, I dont think that would be an issue neither, seeing how Maru went through 3 Zergs to win KoB2. While its true that Maru would probably exhaust all of his opening against Zerg in that case, his execution of the build is still second to none and still force lots of scouting and reaction from the opponent. I mean its just ridiculous how Reynor was abusing Clem in their match, and I know Clem definitely isnt at his best, like it was against Dream or something, with 6-7 minutes of creep cover 70% of the map and never looking back. On the other hand, Maru slow down the creep spread like a lot and even when the creep cover was large, like in game 3, Maru just knew how to slowly expand and defend all the position. Its like the only way you can break Maru is to do a surprise tech-switch (like BLord morph) or Maru making the mistake himself handing the momentum over. | ||
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Husyelt
United States823 Posts
I fear Ryung doesn’t quite have the necessary prep time to compensate for his relative lack of mechanics compared to Rogue and will get absolutely butchered but hoping he can make a series of it. Rouge has struggled with Bunny lately, I would be more surprised if Rogue makes it past the two Terrans here. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24412 Posts
On February 26 2022 10:42 Husyelt wrote: @Wombat Rouge has struggled with Bunny lately, I would be more surprised if Rogue makes it past the two Terrans here. Bunny is well, good. I’ve seen him put out some great TvZs the last year. He’s not spectacular mechanically, he’s not a strategic genius but he’s really good at the game. He’s never made that huge deep run or tournament win, but he exists on that tier where he can conceivably beat the vast majority of players in any given series. Not to disparage Ryung, he’s a TvT positioning maestro and he’s pulled out some wonders in TvP this tournament. I just don’t think mechanically he can go toe to toe with Rogue in a Bo5. Maybe if it was a GSL and the prep of builds was a factor. GSL TY was a considerably different beast from weekender TY in TvZ in his last span, and I think Ryung is a player with similar strengths but even more weakness | ||
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Husyelt
United States823 Posts
On February 26 2022 10:13 Hider wrote: IMO this was candidate for best sc2 game of all time. This had everything. action-packed back and forth that came down to the tiniest margins at the end. I recommend everyone to check out the VOD on catz's stream. I disagree, not even top3 of this tourney. Scarlett was never in a dominating position, nor Clem. There wasn't any big back and forth's of power balance. It was mostly a tight balance for maybe 10 minutes. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17918 Posts
On February 26 2022 08:30 Poopi wrote: I really hope there will be a non zerg player in Spodek Sunday! Very sad for Clem, and since I didn’t have much battery / data left I could not really see most of his matches. They showed too much Reynor in main stage and not enough Clem, as the reigning world champion and a crowd entertainer I understand but Clem has dominated the EU region this season, feels bad not to have him interviewed at least once… Maru looked so tired against Zoun before the match, if he somehow makes it to Sunday ro4 alive he has a decent shot playing « early » Reynor was on the main stage twice. Clem once. But he lost that match (to Reynor) and didn't get interviewed. Clem-Maru on the mainstage would also have made sense, but I think we would then not have had Byun on the mainstage at all, which also wouldn't be fair. And, of course also wouldn't have given you a Clem interview  | ||
Poopi
France12761 Posts
On February 26 2022 16:42 Acrofales wrote: Reynor was on the main stage twice. Clem once. But he lost that match (to Reynor) and didn't get interviewed. Clem-Maru on the mainstage would also have made sense, but I think we would then not have had Byun on the mainstage at all, which also wouldn't be fair. And, of course also wouldn't have given you a Clem interview Reynor was on MainStage vs Clem, Maru and ByuN so three times. ByuN would have been on MainStage vs Reynor so it’s probably more about Scarlett who was only there for the initial match vs ByuN, and Zoun for the last match versus Maru. | ||
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Denmark9362 Posts
On February 26 2022 15:00 Husyelt wrote: I disagree, not even top3 of this tourney. Scarlett was never in a dominating position, nor Clem. There wasn't any big back and forth's of power balance. It was mostly a tight balance for maybe 10 minutes. Do you prefer games where one player is 99-1 and then loses it? Those games in my book aren't close but rather throws. Throws can be fun and entertaining but in my opinion doesn't belong in all-time greatest games lists. I loved this game exactly for the reason you mentioned; it was super close throughout the entire game with mostly just small advantages being exchanged and constant actions. Further, it had changing dynamics/unit compositions and a nail-biting and ridiculous end-phase. I also think Spirit vs Nice game 2 and game 5 were very entertaining. Probably some of he most fun TvPs I watched in a long time - for similar reasons - the games were just really close and action-packed. So many potential tipping-points throughout the games. Games like M | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 26 2022 09:52 parksonsc wrote: What are you talking about? Maru is a skill base player not a BO base. Moreover he is a Terran, not Protoss that has to surprises the Zerg by gimmick builds. His TvZ is turtle late game and everyone knows that no matter what. Maru does a lot of timing openings on maps which are worse for the split map situations. If you run of them you're in a big troubles. You cannot split every map and play from there in this map pool. | ||
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