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On February 26 2022 03:45 JJH777 wrote:
I didn't get to watch Reynor vs Clem but what I saw of Maru vs Clem he looked pretty normal to me. Clem was always an underdog against those two going into this group. His recent match history vs both of them is not pretty. Maru in particular is on an insane streak against him.
Fair enough. He just looked super solid early on and then took some unfortunate tactical decisions but I might be misreading lack of experience as nerves.
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Canada8988 Posts
Alright, am I just compleatly out of the pvt meta, or are the ByuN-Zoun composition just compleatly out of wack?
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Clem doesn't look in form 
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Reynor makes me want to watch the tournament even if/when all the Protosses get knocked out
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So Clem is not advancing right? Byun may take the third place unless he lose to Zoun.
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On February 26 2022 03:57 swarminfestor wrote:
So Clem is not advancing right? Byun may take the third place unless he lose to Zoun.
Idk he may have started 0-2 but he also played the hardest opponents first he can still go 3-2 and advance.
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On February 26 2022 03:57 swarminfestor wrote:
So Clem is not advancing right? Byun may take the third place unless he lose to Zoun.
Clem can just win out the rest of the group.
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Maru not gonna go 10-0 because unlike Serral, he doesn't get to rob an empty house
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On February 26 2022 03:57 swarminfestor wrote:
So Clem is not advancing right? Byun may take the third place unless he lose to Zoun.
both zoun and byuns wins are from scarlett - still gives clem hope but he can't drop any more maps
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On February 26 2022 03:57 swarminfestor wrote:
So Clem is not advancing right? Byun may take the third place unless he lose to Zoun.
I wouldn't be too surprised if he still advances.
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On February 26 2022 03:57 swarminfestor wrote:
So Clem is not advancing right? Byun may take the third place unless he lose to Zoun.
The winner between Byun and Clem should advance in 3rd place
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Northern Ireland24417 Posts
On February 26 2022 03:47 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 03:45 JJH777 wrote:
I didn't get to watch Reynor vs Clem but what I saw of Maru vs Clem he looked pretty normal to me. Clem was always an underdog against those two going into this group. His recent match history vs both of them is not pretty. Maru in particular is on an insane streak against him. Fair enough. He just looked super solid early on and then took some unfortunate tactical decisions but I might be misreading lack of experience as nerves.
With the caveat that I haven’t seen the games, damn work!
Clem’s absolute best period he was doing about the same as, if not slightly worse than Serral and Reynor’s regular/‘slump’ level.
He’s absolutely excellent but he didn’t translate some excellent TvZ clinics in WCS to the international tournaments, or round out all his matchups, especially TvT to the same degree.
I wouldn’t have eaten my shoe if Clem made it out in top 2 spots, but assuming Reynor brought his A game to Katowice I think Clem fighting for that third place is about his par if he can play his best.
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Just getting back - how good has maru looked?
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Byun just got dropped by Zoun, now its likely becoming a 3-way fight for the 3rd place.
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I am rooting for Zoun for protoss representation.
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On February 26 2022 03:59 Pandain wrote:
Just getting back - how good has maru looked?
He lost once against Byun but doing better very GOAT-like thats for sure. He's not gonna get a 10-0 because of how the biased organizers like to stack groups to favor certain players to make sure they 100% advance
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There's hope yet for 2 Protoss in the Ro12. More specifically a PvP in the Ro12.
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On February 26 2022 04:00 Elentos wrote:
There's hope yet for 2 Protoss in the Ro12. More specifically a PvP in the Ro12.
But Trap was 3rd in his group and I don't think Zoun can get 2nd in his
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On February 26 2022 03:59 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 03:47 EquilasH wrote:On February 26 2022 03:45 JJH777 wrote:
I didn't get to watch Reynor vs Clem but what I saw of Maru vs Clem he looked pretty normal to me. Clem was always an underdog against those two going into this group. His recent match history vs both of them is not pretty. Maru in particular is on an insane streak against him. Fair enough. He just looked super solid early on and then took some unfortunate tactical decisions but I might be misreading lack of experience as nerves. With the caveat that I haven’t seen the games, damn work! Clem’s absolute best period he was doing about the same as, if not slightly worse than Serral and Reynor’s regular/‘slump’ level. He’s absolutely excellent but he didn’t translate some excellent TvZ clinics in WCS to the international tournaments, or round out all his matchups, especially TvT to the same degree. I wouldn’t have eaten my shoe if Clem made it out in top 2 spots, but assuming Reynor brought his A game to Katowice I think Clem fighting for that third place is about his par if he can play his best.
No mate, Clem during his best period(right before April to May 2021) was having Serralesque win ratios but somehow like Cure's online domination in early 2020, no major tournaments were being held at the time.
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On February 26 2022 03:59 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 03:47 EquilasH wrote:On February 26 2022 03:45 JJH777 wrote:
I didn't get to watch Reynor vs Clem but what I saw of Maru vs Clem he looked pretty normal to me. Clem was always an underdog against those two going into this group. His recent match history vs both of them is not pretty. Maru in particular is on an insane streak against him. Fair enough. He just looked super solid early on and then took some unfortunate tactical decisions but I might be misreading lack of experience as nerves. With the caveat that I haven’t seen the games, damn work! Clem’s absolute best period he was doing about the same as, if not slightly worse than Serral and Reynor’s regular/‘slump’ level. He’s absolutely excellent but he didn’t translate some excellent TvZ clinics in WCS to the international tournaments, or round out all his matchups, especially TvT to the same degree. I wouldn’t have eaten my shoe if Clem made it out in top 2 spots, but assuming Reynor brought his A game to Katowice I think Clem fighting for that third place is about his par if he can play his best.
To be fair I've mostly seen Clem play TvZ and TvP in general so you're probably right about the TvT.
His TvZ always looked excellent from my PoV though but Reynor definitely looks in form for ZvT.
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