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On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell...
Well I was only comparing Maru and Serral. I would say right now, Maru>Rogue>Reynor>Serral.
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On February 26 2022 02:04 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 01:59 EquilasH wrote:On February 26 2022 01:59 FCHK wrote: I'm happy for the fact that every player got to play on stage (main stream) at least once so far Yeah, that's definitely how it should be. I mean Ryung wouldn't have, unless his last match ended up being the one that mattered for standings. I thought that was messed up. They've USUALLY tried to do make sure everyone gets a game but it doesn't seem to be a 100% policy It was not the case last year
You always want to have an important match on stage for the final round, so it's better to let everyone get on in the first 3/4 rounds
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On February 26 2022 02:17 koalabro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell... Well I was only comparing Maru and Serral. I would say right now, Maru>Rogue>Reynor>Serral.
For big tournament win consistency? No way. Maru wins about 1 top tournament a year since 2018. Rogue gets 2ish.
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Northern Ireland24417 Posts
On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. This just isn’t true.
Maru is going to be in any non-lunatic’s top 3 GOATs but Mr Consistency he ain’t
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On February 26 2022 02:17 koalabro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell... Well I was only comparing Maru and Serral. I would say right now, Maru>Rogue>Reynor>Serral.
Okay fair, no shade at you.
Because I am a clown, I am still malding at Rotti's comment the other day about a game Dark won where he was like `Only 2 other Zergs would have won this' and goes on to elaborate how Rogue is not one of those two
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On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell...
He's kind of the anti-Maru, where hes weirdly disrespected as opposed to Maru who even when hes not winning much is consistently called the best player in the world, lol
I'd say poor Rogue, but with a resume like he has he doesn't need my sympathy, lol
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that hopeless GG from Clem though...
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On February 26 2022 02:20 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 02:17 koalabro wrote:On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell... Well I was only comparing Maru and Serral. I would say right now, Maru>Rogue>Reynor>Serral. Okay fair, no shade at you. Because I am a clown, I am still malding at Rotti's comment the other day about a game Dark won where he was like `Only 2 other Zergs would have won this' and goes on to elaborate how Rogue is not one of those two 
I remember that actually. Definitely a weird comment by Rotti.
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On February 26 2022 01:50 Argonauta wrote: wow and we miss a Maru vs Clem in the main stage? Yeah I am kinda pissed
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Northern Ireland24417 Posts
On February 26 2022 02:20 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell... He's kind of the anti-Maru, where hes weirdly disrespected as opposed to Maru who even when hes not winning much is consistently called the best player in the world, lol I'd say poor Rogue, but with a resume like he has he doesn't need my sympathy, lol Maru just frequently passes the eye test as the most skilled Starcraft player, he’s probably won a lot less than he really should have, and that’s still a lot.
Rogue is like Novak Djokovic. He’s equalled Federer’s slam tally, but dagnabbit Federer plays with such grace that he still gets my vote
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On February 26 2022 02:25 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 02:20 Zambrah wrote:On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell... He's kind of the anti-Maru, where hes weirdly disrespected as opposed to Maru who even when hes not winning much is consistently called the best player in the world, lol I'd say poor Rogue, but with a resume like he has he doesn't need my sympathy, lol Maru just frequently passes the eye test as the most skilled Starcraft player, he’s probably won a lot less than he really should have, and that’s still a lot. Rogue is like Novak Djokovic. He’s equalled Federer’s slam tally, but dagnabbit Federer plays with such grace that he still gets my vote
I mean, people also ignore Maru's bad plays. I'm still angry about the time he had a won game and lost over 30 SCVs to not raising a Depot and people raved about his godly play.
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main stream forgot to turn off their break music or something? this is not a starcraft song lol
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On February 26 2022 02:25 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 02:20 Zambrah wrote:On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell... He's kind of the anti-Maru, where hes weirdly disrespected as opposed to Maru who even when hes not winning much is consistently called the best player in the world, lol I'd say poor Rogue, but with a resume like he has he doesn't need my sympathy, lol Maru just frequently passes the eye test as the most skilled Starcraft player, he’s probably won a lot less than he really should have, and that’s still a lot. Rogue is like Novak Djokovic. He’s equalled Federer’s slam tally, but dagnabbit Federer plays with such grace that he still gets my vote
I dunno, Im not convinced that most StarCraft viewers are going to be able to reliably tell whether or not Maru is playing if we eliminated name plates, lol. I feel like we'd see a disproportionate amount of If-He-Won-Hes-Maru-If-He-Lost-Its-Not-Maru.
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On February 26 2022 02:29 Die4Ever wrote: main stream forgot to turn off their break music or something? this is not a starcraft song lol
They do that when it's the analyst deck casting instead of the casters. Might be something hard to adjust on the production side, what do I know?
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I never saw archons morph on each other like that. You learn something new in sc2 every day
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On February 26 2022 02:30 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 02:25 WombaT wrote:On February 26 2022 02:20 Zambrah wrote:On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell... He's kind of the anti-Maru, where hes weirdly disrespected as opposed to Maru who even when hes not winning much is consistently called the best player in the world, lol I'd say poor Rogue, but with a resume like he has he doesn't need my sympathy, lol Maru just frequently passes the eye test as the most skilled Starcraft player, he’s probably won a lot less than he really should have, and that’s still a lot. Rogue is like Novak Djokovic. He’s equalled Federer’s slam tally, but dagnabbit Federer plays with such grace that he still gets my vote I dunno, Im not convinced that most StarCraft viewers are going to be able to reliably tell whether or not Maru is playing if we eliminated name plates, lol. I feel like we'd see a disproportionate amount of If-He-Won-Hes-Maru-If-He-Lost-Its-Not-Maru. In the lategames you definitely can tell
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they're both broke now, quite unlikely at that point. Now let's see if they both take time and rebuild their eco or if that goes full knife fight !
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Northern Ireland24417 Posts
On February 26 2022 02:30 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 02:25 WombaT wrote:On February 26 2022 02:20 Zambrah wrote:On February 26 2022 02:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:On February 26 2022 01:49 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 26 2022 01:47 koalabro wrote: Maru > Serral. Maru is the only player in recent years who consistently wins big tournaments. Serious disrespect to Rogue right here. And I hate seeing Rogue win. I'm always surprised and disappointed by how a strangely large number of people underrate Rogue  Dude is literally the most successful player of Legacy of the Void. He's won a Blizzcon, 2 IEM world champs, 3 GSLs and 2 super tournaments in 4 years. Like... bloody hell... He's kind of the anti-Maru, where hes weirdly disrespected as opposed to Maru who even when hes not winning much is consistently called the best player in the world, lol I'd say poor Rogue, but with a resume like he has he doesn't need my sympathy, lol Maru just frequently passes the eye test as the most skilled Starcraft player, he’s probably won a lot less than he really should have, and that’s still a lot. Rogue is like Novak Djokovic. He’s equalled Federer’s slam tally, but dagnabbit Federer plays with such grace that he still gets my vote I dunno, Im not convinced that most StarCraft viewers are going to be able to reliably tell whether or not Maru is playing if we eliminated name plates, lol. I feel like we'd see a disproportionate amount of If-He-Won-Hes-Maru-If-He-Lost-Its-Not-Maru. Tbh I think the clue would be turtling into ghost/lib in TvZ
But yeah I think these players are all so good that if you minus the names the small margins that split a good and top pro are difficult to spot blind, unless one is themselves an elite level player
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