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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27041 Posts
February 24 2022 19:58 GMT
#101
On February 25 2022 04:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
TIME's TvZ has gotten SUPER good over the last couple years. I'd say he's easily top 5 Terrans in the world at the match up right now.

But when Serral is playing like that, I think he needs to switch tactics. That's why Maru plays more defensively like he does now. In both games, Serral was punishing him hard whenever he tried to move out with more than just skirmishers. In straight up fights TIME was actually playing really cost efficiently, it's just not really possible to match Zerg mobility especially when you are relying heavily on Thors and Siege Tanks.

Either that, or he has to rely on something more committed in the early or midgame before Zerg can maximize a 4-5 base economy.

He was playing into Zerg's hands the way he handled that series. The hyper mobility of Ling/Bling/Muta WANTS you to fight on two fronts at once. TIME was only figuring out too late in the games that he had to either commit to an attack or not and by that point Serral just had too many bases and too many Hatcheries for TIME to ever successfully win a base race.

I’ve only ever seen Maru consistently manage to secure the space and defend the territory to play that more defensive style, to the extent I really think it’s only him who’s capable of playing it against a real S class ZvTer consistently.

The other approach is to commit more to trying to cripple, allied with great control and Clem’s shown Serral can be taken down that way pretty consistently, so yeah agree with the commitment point as maybe the way to go.

Unless you get miracle trades, trying to skirmish for most of the game against Zerg mobility in the hands of a Serral will see you die by a thousand papercuts
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-24 20:00:13
February 24 2022 19:59 GMT
#102
Juanito is doing a crazy 150 supply transition into mass BCs while playing bio.

EDIT; It was a complete failure.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
February 24 2022 20:02 GMT
#103
Dark desperately needs vipers. Have no idea why he's trying to fight vs superior protoss units.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
February 24 2022 20:06 GMT
#104
Here we go, the way to beat Skytoss is to just relentlessly attack it with as many different random unit comps as you can so that the Protoss army makes as little sense as yours does.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 24 2022 20:10 GMT
#105
Shut down my Stargates, will you? How about I shut down your Spire?
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
February 24 2022 20:11 GMT
#106
Oh Dark. Why can't you ever just be normal?
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4751 Posts
February 24 2022 20:16 GMT
#107
Really rooted for Showtime here, but the better player prevailed. To my dismay that was clear to see.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
February 24 2022 20:16 GMT
#108
absolutely crazy game there
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
February 24 2022 20:16 GMT
#109
this game was Nice level
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
February 24 2022 20:17 GMT
#110
On February 25 2022 04:59 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Juanito is doing a crazy 150 supply transition into mass BCs while playing bio.

EDIT; It was a complete failure.

That sounds incredibly funny, please tell what happened exactly
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-24 20:31:46
February 24 2022 20:30 GMT
#111
On February 25 2022 05:17 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2022 04:59 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Juanito is doing a crazy 150 supply transition into mass BCs while playing bio.

EDIT; It was a complete failure.

That sounds incredibly funny, please tell what happened exactly

He's playing Serral on 2k Atmos, tries a 3port bc transition at 150 supply of bio. He gets 5 bcs out without Serral scouting them, but that's only because Serral is busy killing his 4th repeatedly and killed almost all his workers.

The 5 BCs teleport across the map with terrible upgrades and instantly get smashed by queens and hydras. It was really funny.

EDIT: This was played on Catz's stream if you want to look it up
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 24 2022 20:38 GMT
#112
Anytime showtime still advances without beating serral?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
February 24 2022 20:38 GMT
#113
On February 25 2022 05:30 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2022 05:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 25 2022 04:59 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Juanito is doing a crazy 150 supply transition into mass BCs while playing bio.

EDIT; It was a complete failure.

That sounds incredibly funny, please tell what happened exactly

He's playing Serral on 2k Atmos, tries a 3port bc transition at 150 supply of bio. He gets 5 bcs out without Serral scouting them, but that's only because Serral is busy killing his 4th repeatedly and killed almost all his workers.

The 5 BCs teleport across the map with terrible upgrades and instantly get smashed by queens and hydras. It was really funny.

EDIT: This was played on Catz's stream if you want to look it up

Hahaha I will check it out
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Xitah
Profile Joined October 2018
49 Posts
February 24 2022 20:39 GMT
#114
Is Serral gauranteed first place now no matter what?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
February 24 2022 20:40 GMT
#115
did Dark just beat Mass Immortals with Mass Ultras
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3553 Posts
February 24 2022 20:40 GMT
#116
PvZ looking as unfun as ever
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-24 20:42:51
February 24 2022 20:42 GMT
#117
On February 25 2022 05:40 Charoisaur wrote:
did Dark just beat Mass Immortals with Mass Ultras


Mass Immortal/Archon/Carrier with Queen/Ultralisk/Infestor memestack.

He also beat Phoenix with Anion Pulse Crystals with Mutalisk/Zergling.

Dark going full meme on Showtime and still beating him convincingly.
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EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-24 20:43:34
February 24 2022 20:43 GMT
#118
On February 25 2022 05:39 Xitah wrote:
Is Serral gauranteed first place now no matter what?


Yes he is.
wat
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 24 2022 20:43 GMT
#119
On February 25 2022 05:39 Xitah wrote:
Is Serral gauranteed first place now no matter what?


Yes. And most likely outcome if Dark beats Ryung, Time beats Special, and serral beats showtime is that we have three players with 2-3. I can't do math but Ryung seems best positioned becuase he has a +0 score going in (with 5-5 score) versus Showtime/Special with both -2 and 4/6 scores.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
February 24 2022 20:45 GMT
#120
lol. Ryung really is going to TvT his way into third place and out of this group.
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