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Canada8989 Posts
On January 14 2022 23:21 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2022 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On January 14 2022 22:18 Charoisaur wrote:On January 14 2022 21:40 Xain0n wrote:On January 14 2022 14:43 RKC wrote:
It's easier to win with one-dimensional playstyle as Zerg than any other race. Protoss is a distant second despite their more abusive builds because of constant patch changes. Terran is the most dynamic of all.
That's why foreigners can only excel as Zerg historically throughout SC2. And why multi-dimensional Zergs like Rogue, Dark and The-One-That-Shalt-Not-Be-Named will always have the edge in terms of success and legacy.
(There, I said it. Let the flame wars begin!) Sure, everyone knows koreans are superior multidimensional entities and that's why they are so good at Starcraft. you disagree that most foreigners have a more one-dimensional approach to the game than koreans? You agree with such a statement which is a pretty biased oversimplification at best and complete nonsense at worst? Throughout the history of Sc2? Probably. At the moment/in recent times? Not especially. RKC also implies that non koreans cannot play Sc2 without being monodimensional, which is ridicolous and unworthy to be even discussed. well Serral, Reynor and Clem surely have a more one-dimensional approach to the game than Dark, Rogue and Maru. And then there are also players like HeroMarine and Showtime who basically play only straight up macro
I don't think Reynor is more one-dimensional player than the Korean zerg, he has been known to pull off a wide array of style.
Before Clem and HM the better foreign terrans were Special and uthermal and they were/are both on the crazier side of things. Neeb isn't exactly a one dimensionnal player although he dosen't partake in the super cheasy stuff but he isn't the only toss who dosen't.
And then you have successfull player like Scarlett, Elazer of MaxPax that earned a lot of their success from being unpredictable and having a wide range of playstyle.
As for Korean, it think it's mostly a coincidence as of right now, we've had plenty of great koreans that liked to stick to one way of playing. soO is like the prime exemple of stuborness and absolute inability to play many style (rip soO spellcasters), Stats was pretty conservative, so were like Dream and ByuN and INno to a point
Just checking the Korean zergs playing right now, Solar is pretty predictable, Armani and DRG too, Ragnarock as some range but nothing crazy. Maybe the koreans are more apt to play multiple style since they generaly have way more experience and in general they are undeniably more cheesy, but I think it's a coincidence that right now the top koreans are among the most diverse while the top foreigner tend to stick to more standard stuff.
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On January 14 2022 23:45 koalabro wrote:
Hell yeah DRG back to peak form! Not many people say they can beat Serral in a tournament so this is an achievement in itself!
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Every top tier Zerg players for each region can beat Serral now.
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France12911 Posts
On January 14 2022 23:50 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2022 23:45 koalabro wrote:
Hell yeah DRG back to peak form! Not many people say they can beat Serral in a tournament so this is an achievement in itself!
. Every top tier Zerg players for each region can beat Serral now.
In bo5+ I doubt it, even more so offline. Bo3 is very volatile but still congrats to DRG!
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They really dont have a picture for Dream? lol
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Canada8989 Posts
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On January 14 2022 23:50 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2022 23:21 Charoisaur wrote:On January 14 2022 22:57 Xain0n wrote:On January 14 2022 22:18 Charoisaur wrote:On January 14 2022 21:40 Xain0n wrote:On January 14 2022 14:43 RKC wrote:
It's easier to win with one-dimensional playstyle as Zerg than any other race. Protoss is a distant second despite their more abusive builds because of constant patch changes. Terran is the most dynamic of all.
That's why foreigners can only excel as Zerg historically throughout SC2. And why multi-dimensional Zergs like Rogue, Dark and The-One-That-Shalt-Not-Be-Named will always have the edge in terms of success and legacy.
(There, I said it. Let the flame wars begin!) Sure, everyone knows koreans are superior multidimensional entities and that's why they are so good at Starcraft. you disagree that most foreigners have a more one-dimensional approach to the game than koreans? You agree with such a statement which is a pretty biased oversimplification at best and complete nonsense at worst? Throughout the history of Sc2? Probably. At the moment/in recent times? Not especially. RKC also implies that non koreans cannot play Sc2 without being monodimensional, which is ridicolous and unworthy to be even discussed. well Serral, Reynor and Clem surely have a more one-dimensional approach to the game than Dark, Rogue and Maru. And then there are also players like HeroMarine and Showtime who basically play only straight up macro I don't think Reynor is more one-dimensional player than the Korean zerg, he has been known to pull off a wide array of style. Before Clem and HM the better foreign terrans were Special and uthermal and they were/are both on the crazier side of things. Neeb isn't exactly a one dimensionnal player although he dosen't partake in the super cheasy stuff but he isn't the only toss who dosen't. And then you have successfull player like Scarlett, Elazer of MaxPax that earned a lot of their success from being unpredictable and having a wide range of playstyle. As for Korean, it think it's mostly a coincidence as of right now, we've had plenty of great koreans that liked to stick to one way of playing. soO is like the prime exemple of stuborness and absolute inability to play many style (rip soO spellcasters), Stats was pretty conservative, so were like Dream and ByuN and INno to a point Just checking the Korean zergs playing right now, Solar is pretty predictable, Armani and DRG too, Ragnarock as some range but nothing crazy. Maybe the koreans are more apt to play multiple style since they generaly have way more experience and in general they are undeniably more cheesy, but I think it's a coincidence that right now the top koreans are among the most diverse while the top foreigner tend to stick to more standard stuff.
Reynor is more multidimensional than Serral, but less so than Rogue and Dark.
Yes, I always felt Special was 'special'. His playstyle is quite diverse and creative. Unfortunately, he lacks the mechanics, consistency, and game-sense required to be a Terran champ. No offence, but uThermal is one-dimensionally abusive and chaotic (ala Has). Multidimensionalism requires some solid and sound plays as well. Not just doing random shit hoping to fluke out a win.
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Love it when actual pro players with tons of actual real high level knowledge cast!
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WP by Cure. He played really well especially in Game 2
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Was that manner rine produced by Cure at the Dream's base?
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On January 15 2022 00:36 swarminfestor wrote:
Was that manner rine produced by Cure at the Dream's base?
He cancelled it at the last second lmao. Would have been glorious
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Cure better do his job to advance in the first place.
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On January 15 2022 00:37 swarminfestor wrote:
Cure better do his job to advance in the first place.
DRG has (inconsistent sure, but) really good ZvT. While Cure's certainly favored this ain't a given, even if Cure shows up.
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its like either 1st place or bust for Cure, I dont see him, nor DRG, beating Serral in the decider match.
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Cure looks to actually be back in form. Won a code S some time back and is still playing well. Was it 2015 when he last was great for a longer period of time?
I remember him playing vs recent champion INnoVation, Cure playing bio but forgetting stim. Started the upgrade 16 or 17 minutes into the game. Crazy win that time.
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Cure was so stubborn not making single ghost, ended up he got swarmed by lings banes lurkers combo.
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On January 15 2022 00:42 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2022 00:37 swarminfestor wrote:
Cure better do his job to advance in the first place. DRG has (inconsistent sure, but) really good ZvT. While Cure's certainly favored this ain't a given, even if Cure shows up.
DRG easily could win map when he decided to make mutalisk as one of option. Mutalisks seemed like his lucky charm in ZvT matchups all these years.
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France12911 Posts
Cure exceeded my expectations, gg!
Now DRG is gonna lose to Serral isn't he?
3rd place is done either way
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I actually would have liked Cure shot more had he made 2nd place, against Time, Maru (who he beat a couple days ago) and Solar, than Zest, Dark and Reynor. But not like he can make just it pass Serral in the decider match neither.
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On January 15 2022 02:06 tigera6 wrote:
I actually would have liked Cure shot more had he made 2nd place, against Time, Maru (who he beat a couple days ago) and Solar, than Zest, Dark and Reynor. But not like he can make just it pass Serral in the decider match neither.
This is gonna end up with TIME getting "rewarded" for his great performance with an RO8 match against Serral 
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