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On March 13 2021 05:38 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 13 2021 05:29 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend?  Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Inno current form didn't allow a lot of expectation, Cure was a better candidate for the ro8 imo. Cure's recent form isn't that different from INno's. We're just more used to constant disappointment with Cure. Overall, his 2020 year was way better.
Inno went deeper than Cure in almost every tournament they were both in tbh (also qualified for more than Cure did)
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So Cure did a weird opener that did nothing, donated alot of units for nothing and then still wins?
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On March 13 2021 05:38 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 13 2021 05:29 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend? Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Inno current form didn't allow a lot of expectation, Cure was a better candidate for the ro8 imo. Cure's recent form isn't that different from INno's. We're just more used to constant disappointment with Cure. Overall, his 2020 year was way better.
Was it though? Their results seem very very similar--TSL 2nd place for KoB 2nd place, both have a season finals top 4, Cure has a GSL finals for INno's GSL top 4 and two top 8s. INno made slightly more money, and made it slightly further in tournaments on average, so if anything I think he did slightly better.
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On March 13 2021 05:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:38 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 13 2021 05:29 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend? Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Inno current form didn't allow a lot of expectation, Cure was a better candidate for the ro8 imo. Cure's recent form isn't that different from INno's. We're just more used to constant disappointment with Cure. Overall, his 2020 year was way better. Inno went deeper than Cure in almost every tournament they were both in tbh (also qualified for more than Cure did)
I valu his gsl/king battle finals more than inno, overall, he weighed more in tourney by being a threat to the top dogs, his three wins over Serral/Reynor in one tournament was particulary impressive.
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On March 13 2021 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend? Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Clem isn't as good as people would love him to be. Certainly not for a stable RO8 with Koreans in it. Maybe in a year he gets the stability his hype deserves. Although Rogue shows that no matter how much time passes the stability won't be there, so who knows Cure has a bad form and Inno has even worse form than Cure. Byun may have pissed the wrist gods, don't know what happened considering he's otherwise good online. Don't know, bad times to be a terran fan when Maru has the best performance on weekenders, you know something's wrong.
So Clem is bad but the Korean terrans all have one excuse or the other... Mariano is that you?
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On March 13 2021 05:48 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:42 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:38 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 13 2021 05:29 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend? Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Inno current form didn't allow a lot of expectation, Cure was a better candidate for the ro8 imo. Cure's recent form isn't that different from INno's. We're just more used to constant disappointment with Cure. Overall, his 2020 year was way better. Inno went deeper than Cure in almost every tournament they were both in tbh (also qualified for more than Cure did) I valu his gsl/king battle finals more than inno, overall, he weighed more in tourney by being a threat to the top dogs, his three wins over Serral/Reynor in one tournament was particulary impressive. I understand where you're coming from, but to me being a threat to the top dogs in two or three tournaments doesn't make up for missing GSL playoffs twice and not getting into 3 of the 4 Dreamhack events. In that sense I much prefer Inno's consistency (Inno also did better at smaller events like StayatHSC). Would be different if Cure actually ended up following through in those tournaments to win something but all of his good runs ended with him getting stomped.
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On March 13 2021 06:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:48 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:42 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:38 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 13 2021 05:29 stilt wrote:On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend? Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Inno current form didn't allow a lot of expectation, Cure was a better candidate for the ro8 imo. Cure's recent form isn't that different from INno's. We're just more used to constant disappointment with Cure. Overall, his 2020 year was way better. Inno went deeper than Cure in almost every tournament they were both in tbh (also qualified for more than Cure did) I valu his gsl/king battle finals more than inno, overall, he weighed more in tourney by being a threat to the top dogs, his three wins over Serral/Reynor in one tournament was particulary impressive. I understand where you're coming from, but to me being a threat to the top dogs in two or three tournaments doesn't make up for missing GSL playoffs twice and not getting into 3 of the 4 Dreamhack events. In that sense I much prefer Inno's consistency (Inno also did better at smaller events like StayatHSC). Would be different if Cure actually ended up following through in those tournaments to win something but all of his good runs ended with him getting stomped.
Actually, I didn't take into account inno's results in gsl, you're actually right, I just remembered the stomp he took from drg in ro8. I guess I got baited by the "inno is washed up" meme :p
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SOUUUUUUUUUUL
Amzing third game !
Edit : sry for the double post, I expected a more lively thread :S
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souL EVENTUALLY having a remarkable result!
It was about time, he has been good for years.
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On March 13 2021 02:51 Harris1st wrote:
I guess Soul is that good! 2021 year of Soul
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wow souL did it ! Nice 
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This time reynor lost quite a few drones though. Usually he pulls them away and "only" loses the Hatcheries, but this Liberator killed tons of workers.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 13 2021 05:50 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend? Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Clem isn't as good as people would love him to be. Certainly not for a stable RO8 with Koreans in it. Maybe in a year he gets the stability his hype deserves. Although Rogue shows that no matter how much time passes the stability won't be there, so who knows Cure has a bad form and Inno has even worse form than Cure. Byun may have pissed the wrist gods, don't know what happened considering he's otherwise good online. Don't know, bad times to be a terran fan when Maru has the best performance on weekenders, you know something's wrong. So Clem is bad but the Korean terrans all have one excuse or the other... Mariano is that you?
IMO Clem is overhyped for how good he is and for what he every played and won. So technically he's not bad, he;s just not as good as people are hypiong him to be.
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Ok after the 3 pronged engagement, he didn't play too well.
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I didn't expect Byun to go 0-5. Rogue 5-0 is also kinda unexpected, although more believable.
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Canada8989 Posts
On March 13 2021 07:02 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:50 Harris1st wrote:On March 13 2021 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend? Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Clem isn't as good as people would love him to be. Certainly not for a stable RO8 with Koreans in it. Maybe in a year he gets the stability his hype deserves. Although Rogue shows that no matter how much time passes the stability won't be there, so who knows Cure has a bad form and Inno has even worse form than Cure. Byun may have pissed the wrist gods, don't know what happened considering he's otherwise good online. Don't know, bad times to be a terran fan when Maru has the best performance on weekenders, you know something's wrong. So Clem is bad but the Korean terrans all have one excuse or the other... Mariano is that you? IMO Clem is overhyped for how good he is and for what he every played and won. So technically he's not bad, he;s just not as good as people are hypiong him to be.
I think Clem's the real deal, I'd go has far as to say his play is better than what is results indicated. I think he'll do great this year.
With that said I also thought Reynor was the one who was gonna go the route of the Elazer and Showtime of the world, so what do I know.
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On March 13 2021 07:02 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2021 05:50 Harris1st wrote:On March 13 2021 05:39 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:26 Elentos wrote:On March 13 2021 05:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 13 2021 05:22 Elentos wrote:
So is Heromarine just gonna be the only Terran in the playoffs? Not a good showing by the Marine Corps What do you expect when Maru and TY don't attend? Clem, Byun and Inno were here, that's like more than half the Terrans that have won something relevant in the past few years. Clem isn't as good as people would love him to be. Certainly not for a stable RO8 with Koreans in it. Maybe in a year he gets the stability his hype deserves. Although Rogue shows that no matter how much time passes the stability won't be there, so who knows Cure has a bad form and Inno has even worse form than Cure. Byun may have pissed the wrist gods, don't know what happened considering he's otherwise good online. Don't know, bad times to be a terran fan when Maru has the best performance on weekenders, you know something's wrong. So Clem is bad but the Korean terrans all have one excuse or the other... Mariano is that you? IMO Clem is overhyped for how good he is and for what he every played and won. So technically he's not bad, he;s just not as good as people are hypiong him to be.
He might be as overrated as Serral and Reynor once were.
What makes you think he's overhyped, I mean actual results?
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