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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4416 Posts
November 24 2019 16:34 GMT
#321
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 24 2019 16:34 GMT
#322
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

But the patch!!!! I was told by zergs the patch will fix it
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 24 2019 16:34 GMT
#323
gg no re
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 24 2019 16:35 GMT
#324
On November 25 2019 01:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:30 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Is Serral just trying to tell the balance team the patch doesn't even change anything?

Well, someone needs to tell them


Biggest difference is that the balance team killed glaive builds .


Pretty much
Year of MaxPax
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 24 2019 16:35 GMT
#325
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

Zest just won 3-1
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
sirok_
Profile Joined November 2019
33 Posts
November 24 2019 16:35 GMT
#326
On November 25 2019 01:34 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

But the patch!!!! I was told by zergs the patch will fix it


Skytoss supposedly had no counter anymore.
Some obscure theorycrafting about hydra + new shroud ability "might" have a chance against it, but it wasn't clear.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 24 2019 16:36 GMT
#327
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.


Hold on, Trap is getting a Mothership now. Let's see what happens
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
November 24 2019 16:36 GMT
#328
locust don't live long but they sure live
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 24 2019 16:36 GMT
#329
On November 25 2019 01:35 sirok_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:34 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

But the patch!!!! I was told by zergs the patch will fix it


Skytoss supposedly had no counter anymore.
Some obscure theorycrafting about hydra + new shroud ability "might" have a chance against it, but it wasn't clear.

Yeah, it's so ez to get there...
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
November 24 2019 16:36 GMT
#330
Imagine thinking +25/25 cost will put an end to nydus spam
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 24 2019 16:37 GMT
#331
I thought I'd felt the last of those sinking feelings associated with watching starcraft
Year of MaxPax
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 24 2019 16:38 GMT
#332
Fuck you highground
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 24 2019 16:38 GMT
#333
On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

Zest just won 3-1


After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 24 2019 16:38 GMT
#334
wow zerg still so broken
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 24 2019 16:39 GMT
#335
On November 25 2019 01:34 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

But the patch!!!! I was told by zergs the patch will fix it

tbf players have barely practiced on the new patch
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 24 2019 16:39 GMT
#336
On November 25 2019 01:39 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:34 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

But the patch!!!! I was told by zergs the patch will fix it

tbf players have barely practiced on the new patch

And Trap is bad in PvZ
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 24 2019 16:40 GMT
#337
On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

Zest just won 3-1


After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP.

So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP.
Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
November 24 2019 16:41 GMT
#338
On November 25 2019 01:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

Zest just won 3-1


After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP.

So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP.
Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it

Stats lost because he didn't come here to win. Also it's a fact zvp has been broken for quite a while.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 24 2019 16:42 GMT
#339
On November 25 2019 01:41 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

Zest just won 3-1


After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP.

So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP.
Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it

Stats lost because he didn't come here to win. Also it's a fact zvp has been broken for quite a while.

There is consensus, that's all one has to say really.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
November 24 2019 16:42 GMT
#340
On November 25 2019 01:35 sirok_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 01:34 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote:
Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss.

But the patch!!!! I was told by zergs the patch will fix it


Skytoss supposedly had no counter anymore.
Some obscure theorycrafting about hydra + new shroud ability "might" have a chance against it, but it wasn't clear.


If the toss doesn't lose 60 probes to 6 in middle game, I am pretty sure it is not.
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