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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17731 Posts
September 08 2019 20:28 GMT
#401
"Expert" mods4ever.com
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 08 2019 20:30 GMT
#402
Props to Zombiegrub for having done her research about map sizes and rush distances btw.
IvysaurEG
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
September 08 2019 20:31 GMT
#403
The Top players are so consistent now that I would like to see round robin invitationals instead of single elimination brackets.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 08 2019 20:32 GMT
#404
On September 09 2019 05:22 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 05:19 stilt wrote:
On September 09 2019 05:12 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:54 Waxangel wrote:
Worth reminding ppl the big problem with WoL BL-Infestor is how it helped boost the performance of a lot of mid-low level players, not just the top guys like Stephano or Leenock. Obviously it's frustrating to watch Serral wipe a top foreign Terran like HeroMarine in such a manner, but you're not giving WoL era BL-Infestor enough credit for being filthy when you compare the two

We don't have that many mid tier Zergs though. While I wasn't watching WCS, Stephano in the RO8? Is he getting good or driving on the wave of BL infestor? (I honestly don't know)

While the composition may not be as good as WoL one, we have different tempo of the game and different maps. And less mid tier players, look at WCS. All the RO8s look the same, where's the mid tier?


Stephano used ling/bane.
If the meta was as bad as 2012, Namshar, Zanster or even eonblue would be big threats to hm, TIME and Special.

I actually don't think so, even back then the Zergs were not that bad. At least mid tier for me means they can threaten the top tier regularly and kick them out of the tourney. At this time Serral is the top tier and the rest of the WCS is the mid tier. Now this doesn't help, does it? Because the RO8 is the top tier and then is a big gap. I really think there's close to none mid tier.


Oh okok, I suppose jonsnow, Stephano could be considered as such and Lambo inbetween this year ?
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3430 Posts
September 08 2019 20:33 GMT
#405
On September 09 2019 05:20 TentativePanda wrote:
Sad because I always want special to win. But he really has some stuff he needs to clean up in his game. Getting 2 bcs biled down, no splitting at important times, 0 protection on expansions just to name a few. Though of course if he cleans some of that up, his macro is gonna win him some big time games


To be honest, I'd say decision making hurts him more than mechanical errors. He continously takes fights on creep, by choice.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3430 Posts
September 08 2019 20:34 GMT
#406
On September 09 2019 05:31 IvysaurEG wrote:
The Top players are so consistent now that I would like to see round robin invitationals instead of single elimination brackets.


Or my beloved DE <3
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 08 2019 20:34 GMT
#407
On September 09 2019 05:28 Die4Ever wrote:
https://clips.twitch.tv/DaintyPuzzledFiddleheadsPermaSmug

Didn't zerg win the last 4 IEM and 2 GSL vs the world as well
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 08 2019 20:35 GMT
#408
On September 09 2019 05:34 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 05:31 IvysaurEG wrote:
The Top players are so consistent now that I would like to see round robin invitationals instead of single elimination brackets.


Or my beloved DE <3

Double elimination is one of the greatest things to happen to brackets ever and it's never used anymore
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 08 2019 20:36 GMT
#409
On September 09 2019 05:32 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 05:22 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 09 2019 05:19 stilt wrote:
On September 09 2019 05:12 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:54 Waxangel wrote:
Worth reminding ppl the big problem with WoL BL-Infestor is how it helped boost the performance of a lot of mid-low level players, not just the top guys like Stephano or Leenock. Obviously it's frustrating to watch Serral wipe a top foreign Terran like HeroMarine in such a manner, but you're not giving WoL era BL-Infestor enough credit for being filthy when you compare the two

We don't have that many mid tier Zergs though. While I wasn't watching WCS, Stephano in the RO8? Is he getting good or driving on the wave of BL infestor? (I honestly don't know)

While the composition may not be as good as WoL one, we have different tempo of the game and different maps. And less mid tier players, look at WCS. All the RO8s look the same, where's the mid tier?


Stephano used ling/bane.
If the meta was as bad as 2012, Namshar, Zanster or even eonblue would be big threats to hm, TIME and Special.

I actually don't think so, even back then the Zergs were not that bad. At least mid tier for me means they can threaten the top tier regularly and kick them out of the tourney. At this time Serral is the top tier and the rest of the WCS is the mid tier. Now this doesn't help, does it? Because the RO8 is the top tier and then is a big gap. I really think there's close to none mid tier.


Oh okok, I suppose jonsnow, Stephano could be considered as such and Lambo inbetween this year ?

Yeah, those are probably the only players. I don't know foreign scene very much, to me it just seems the difference is too big between the top and the next tier. Maybe Scarlett in her current form? But I don't know he form or if she plays the game anymore.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 08 2019 20:40 GMT
#410
Serral did lose to Stats in the semi final, not the final.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 08 2019 20:42 GMT
#411
Fun fact last time there was a WCS stop without a zerg in the final we thought Lilbow was on his way to be the foreign GOAT
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 08 2019 20:44 GMT
#412
On September 09 2019 05:42 Nakajin wrote:
Fun fact last time there was a WCS stop without a zerg in the final we thought Lilbow was on his way to be the foreign GOAT

He's still on his way to be the foreign GOAT in SC3.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 08 2019 20:45 GMT
#413
On September 09 2019 05:44 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 05:42 Nakajin wrote:
Fun fact last time there was a WCS stop without a zerg in the final we thought Lilbow was on his way to be the foreign GOAT

He's still on his way to be the foreign GOAT in SC3.


Nah he transitioned to OW2
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
September 08 2019 20:47 GMT
#414
the fist of neeb? i need a historian here pls
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 20:48:43
September 08 2019 20:48 GMT
#415
On September 09 2019 05:47 Topin wrote:
the fist of neeb? i need a historian here pls

He played a stupidly long game vs Rogue a couple blizzcons ago that ended with Neeb having almost 200 supply of pure skytoss. Which the casters dubbed "the fist of Neeb"
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
September 08 2019 20:48 GMT
#416
On September 09 2019 05:47 Topin wrote:
the fist of neeb? i need a historian here pls

199 army supply and 1 probe against Rogue at the 2017 Global Finals in the most boring game of all time that people inexplicably loved. Truly the Titanic of SC2 games.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
September 08 2019 20:49 GMT
#417
thanks Fango and Elentos <3
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 08 2019 20:49 GMT
#418
On September 09 2019 05:47 Topin wrote:
the fist of neeb? i need a historian here pls


It's from an old Blizzcon (I think) match between Rogue and Neeb, basically Neeb sack all his probe except one and build a 199 supply army than beat Rogue ultra late game army.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
September 08 2019 20:50 GMT
#419
This some shite anti-air for scouting the Spire before it finished innit?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
September 08 2019 20:52 GMT
#420
Did he not chrono blink? Civilizations rose and fell before that research finished.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
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