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On August 19 2019 05:07 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 05:01 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 04:51 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 19 2019 04:34 Kalera wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 UnLarva wrote:Yeah. That was before Serral was finished his high school and going to the full time pro. As you very well know there are a lot of things happened ever since. I really would want to see Maru vs Serral match. Whatever the result would then be, we all would have that result then. At least. There are no innate disrespect to Maru from my part, so do not read my comments as such. (beyond 'normal' antagonistic stances of fanboyism of different players of different races, that said).  FYI Serral graduated high school and went full time in June 2017. The thing about Maru is the he is hot and cold. At his peak, he looks incredible, but then he also gets dropped unceremoniously. 2017. Wasn't that also the same year Serral achieved #1 ranking in Korea's ladder MMR? He was already the best in the world in terms of MMR rating before anybody even knew about him, and he just started playing full-time a few months prior? That was pretty much how quickly Flash transitioned to SC2 dominance, although he never quite achieved the best-in-Korea status. Being in high school is very overrated in terms of how much it effects being good at StarCraft. Just look at Reynor. Or how young Maru was when he won his first event. To be fair I doubt the guys who were winning tournaments at like 15 (Flash, Life, Maru) were doing particuarly well in school at the time. To actually graduate high school while being an elite player is impressive
I don't know if school in Korea is harder than the US but I feel like anyone smart enough to win a top level StarCraft tournament at 15 could graduate high school in the US without ever spending any time outside of school hours on school work.
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On August 19 2019 05:17 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 05:07 Fango wrote:On August 19 2019 05:01 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 04:51 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 19 2019 04:34 Kalera wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 UnLarva wrote:Yeah. That was before Serral was finished his high school and going to the full time pro. As you very well know there are a lot of things happened ever since. I really would want to see Maru vs Serral match. Whatever the result would then be, we all would have that result then. At least. There are no innate disrespect to Maru from my part, so do not read my comments as such. (beyond 'normal' antagonistic stances of fanboyism of different players of different races, that said). FYI Serral graduated high school and went full time in June 2017. The thing about Maru is the he is hot and cold. At his peak, he looks incredible, but then he also gets dropped unceremoniously. 2017. Wasn't that also the same year Serral achieved #1 ranking in Korea's ladder MMR? He was already the best in the world in terms of MMR rating before anybody even knew about him, and he just started playing full-time a few months prior? That was pretty much how quickly Flash transitioned to SC2 dominance, although he never quite achieved the best-in-Korea status. Being in high school is very overrated in terms of how much it effects being good at StarCraft. Just look at Reynor. Or how young Maru was when he won his first event. To be fair I doubt the guys who were winning tournaments at like 15 (Flash, Life, Maru) were doing particuarly well in school at the time. To actually graduate high school while being an elite player is impressive I don't know if school in Korea is harder than the US but I feel like anyone smart enough to win a top level StarCraft tournament at 15 could graduate high school in the US without ever spending any time outside of school hours on school work.
School still takes time and energy, that is not put into training.
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On August 19 2019 05:01 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 04:51 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 19 2019 04:34 Kalera wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 UnLarva wrote:Yeah. That was before Serral was finished his high school and going to the full time pro. As you very well know there are a lot of things happened ever since. I really would want to see Maru vs Serral match. Whatever the result would then be, we all would have that result then. At least. There are no innate disrespect to Maru from my part, so do not read my comments as such. (beyond 'normal' antagonistic stances of fanboyism of different players of different races, that said). FYI Serral graduated high school and went full time in June 2017. The thing about Maru is the he is hot and cold. At his peak, he looks incredible, but then he also gets dropped unceremoniously. 2017. Wasn't that also the same year Serral achieved #1 ranking in Korea's ladder MMR? He was already the best in the world in terms of MMR rating before anybody even knew about him, and he just started playing full-time a few months prior? That was pretty much how quickly Flash transitioned to SC2 dominance, although he never quite achieved the best-in-Korea status. Being in high school is very overrated in terms of how much it effects being good at StarCraft. Just look at Reynor. Or how young Maru was when he won his first event.
That would depend on how much time you allocate to your academic work. If you've already gone pro while in school, then you obviously likely are not devoting much time to schoolwork. That's not likely the case with Serral, since he's stated that he really wanted to follow in the footsteps of his brother, who was on track to college to study mathematics, which would require a lot of work to prepare for as a secondary school student.
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On August 19 2019 03:51 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 03:46 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2019 03:35 UnLarva wrote:On August 19 2019 03:31 Argonauta wrote:On August 19 2019 03:23 kaykoose wrote:On August 19 2019 02:58 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 02:54 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 02:47 Xain0n wrote:On August 19 2019 02:38 JJH777 wrote:
I loved the questionnaire segment specifically with Maru saying Serral wouldn't be as successful as T and that if he went to the circuit he would win everything until he retires. He tried to be modest at first but the lie detector caught him and he admitted the above. Specials answers were great too. Maru was saying that Rogue was better than Serral so maybe he's not that great at evaluating players. His specific statement was that if he practiced with rogue he could beat Serral easily and he stated that around the time of blizzcon last year. We haven't seen anything to disprove that. Rogue was in much better form back then and Serrals ZvT has also improved a lot since then. I think he was mediocre at the matchup until the loss to innovation at WESG. After that there's a significant improvement. Maru is better at evaluating players than 99% of the people who play or watch StarCraft. Nothing that Maru says about him vs. Serral is moot, because they will never face each other  Right. Because Maru always loses early yeah fucking loser, never wins anything No, no, no! There are no SC2 fan who disrespects Maru. Its only the plain fact he has been unable to make it enough deep to actually meet Serral in any relevant tournament. How to make it happen is the point of discussion. We ALL would want to see that match, do we not? It happened. WESG 2018. That was before Serral evolved into the Serral we have now. They are still to face at peak power.
he didn't lose a map before Maru. please
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On August 19 2019 05:17 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 05:07 Fango wrote:On August 19 2019 05:01 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 04:51 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 19 2019 04:34 Kalera wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 UnLarva wrote:Yeah. That was before Serral was finished his high school and going to the full time pro. As you very well know there are a lot of things happened ever since. I really would want to see Maru vs Serral match. Whatever the result would then be, we all would have that result then. At least. There are no innate disrespect to Maru from my part, so do not read my comments as such. (beyond 'normal' antagonistic stances of fanboyism of different players of different races, that said). FYI Serral graduated high school and went full time in June 2017. The thing about Maru is the he is hot and cold. At his peak, he looks incredible, but then he also gets dropped unceremoniously. 2017. Wasn't that also the same year Serral achieved #1 ranking in Korea's ladder MMR? He was already the best in the world in terms of MMR rating before anybody even knew about him, and he just started playing full-time a few months prior? That was pretty much how quickly Flash transitioned to SC2 dominance, although he never quite achieved the best-in-Korea status. Being in high school is very overrated in terms of how much it effects being good at StarCraft. Just look at Reynor. Or how young Maru was when he won his first event. To be fair I doubt the guys who were winning tournaments at like 15 (Flash, Life, Maru) were doing particuarly well in school at the time. To actually graduate high school while being an elite player is impressive I don't know if school in Korea is harder than the US but I feel like anyone smart enough to win a top level StarCraft tournament at 15 could graduate high school in the US without ever spending any time outside of school hours on school work.
If it's anything like schooling in Japan, then it's not the graduation that is the hard part, but the university entrance examination preparation that consumes the vast majority of students' time. It's similar in the U.S., except the SAT isn't the sole factor, as we have AP (advanced placement) courses that weigh in heavily toward whether students get accepted into their universities of choice.
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On August 19 2019 05:35 necrosexy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 03:51 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 03:46 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2019 03:35 UnLarva wrote:On August 19 2019 03:31 Argonauta wrote:On August 19 2019 03:23 kaykoose wrote:On August 19 2019 02:58 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 02:54 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 02:47 Xain0n wrote:On August 19 2019 02:38 JJH777 wrote:
I loved the questionnaire segment specifically with Maru saying Serral wouldn't be as successful as T and that if he went to the circuit he would win everything until he retires. He tried to be modest at first but the lie detector caught him and he admitted the above. Specials answers were great too. Maru was saying that Rogue was better than Serral so maybe he's not that great at evaluating players. His specific statement was that if he practiced with rogue he could beat Serral easily and he stated that around the time of blizzcon last year. We haven't seen anything to disprove that. Rogue was in much better form back then and Serrals ZvT has also improved a lot since then. I think he was mediocre at the matchup until the loss to innovation at WESG. After that there's a significant improvement. Maru is better at evaluating players than 99% of the people who play or watch StarCraft. Nothing that Maru says about him vs. Serral is moot, because they will never face each other Right. Because Maru always loses early yeah fucking loser, never wins anything No, no, no! There are no SC2 fan who disrespects Maru. Its only the plain fact he has been unable to make it enough deep to actually meet Serral in any relevant tournament. How to make it happen is the point of discussion. We ALL would want to see that match, do we not? It happened. WESG 2018. That was before Serral evolved into the Serral we have now. They are still to face at peak power. he didn't lose a map before Maru. please
How about this: They met in March 2018 and Maru won fair and square.
Now it would be really cool to have a rematch, approximately 1 1/2 years later to see how they fare against each other now.
I think that is some narrative everyone can get behind.
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On August 19 2019 05:36 tigon_ridge wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 05:17 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 05:07 Fango wrote:On August 19 2019 05:01 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 04:51 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 19 2019 04:34 Kalera wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 UnLarva wrote:Yeah. That was before Serral was finished his high school and going to the full time pro. As you very well know there are a lot of things happened ever since. I really would want to see Maru vs Serral match. Whatever the result would then be, we all would have that result then. At least. There are no innate disrespect to Maru from my part, so do not read my comments as such. (beyond 'normal' antagonistic stances of fanboyism of different players of different races, that said). FYI Serral graduated high school and went full time in June 2017. The thing about Maru is the he is hot and cold. At his peak, he looks incredible, but then he also gets dropped unceremoniously. 2017. Wasn't that also the same year Serral achieved #1 ranking in Korea's ladder MMR? He was already the best in the world in terms of MMR rating before anybody even knew about him, and he just started playing full-time a few months prior? That was pretty much how quickly Flash transitioned to SC2 dominance, although he never quite achieved the best-in-Korea status. Being in high school is very overrated in terms of how much it effects being good at StarCraft. Just look at Reynor. Or how young Maru was when he won his first event. To be fair I doubt the guys who were winning tournaments at like 15 (Flash, Life, Maru) were doing particuarly well in school at the time. To actually graduate high school while being an elite player is impressive I don't know if school in Korea is harder than the US but I feel like anyone smart enough to win a top level StarCraft tournament at 15 could graduate high school in the US without ever spending any time outside of school hours on school work. If it's anything like schooling in Japan, then it's not the graduation that is the hard part, but the university entrance examination preparation that consumes the vast majority of students' time. It's similar in the U.S., except the SAT isn't the sole factor, as we have AP (advanced placement) courses that weigh in heavily toward whether students get accepted into their universities of choice.
Finland's education system is one of the most difficult and successful in the world.
Last time I checked, they achieve southeast asian results with far less rigorous schedules. A lot of modern teaching approaches are based upon their system.
A diploma in Finland wouldn't be easy for most of my countries people.
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Serral got all benefits from the Finnish education, but that is not the reason why he became what he is in SC2 today.
Maybe 5% of it but how you count in the weight of his brother and parents? That he was actively competed against since childhood, supported by parents.
How you spread that god-damned creep? The question was not originally asked by Serral himself, but the answer to that question is visible for all.
Thats the IMBA behind The God-King. He got loving parents. He mutated and took his shape in Finland, were becoming a Zerg Overlord and The Didact is still possible, albeit hard (by default).
That his mutations were such he had an endurance to struggle against his overwhelming Protoss brother to the ultimate assimilation - that's only because he realized that he must kick out every Terran, Protoss, and other Zerg broods from this sector. As ruthlessly as possible.
Nobody can blame him for his deeds. When following his destined path he saved, or at least prolonged the future history of the ultimate art of the all E-Sports.
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On August 19 2019 05:17 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 05:07 Fango wrote:On August 19 2019 05:01 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 04:51 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 19 2019 04:34 Kalera wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 UnLarva wrote:Yeah. That was before Serral was finished his high school and going to the full time pro. As you very well know there are a lot of things happened ever since. I really would want to see Maru vs Serral match. Whatever the result would then be, we all would have that result then. At least. There are no innate disrespect to Maru from my part, so do not read my comments as such. (beyond 'normal' antagonistic stances of fanboyism of different players of different races, that said). FYI Serral graduated high school and went full time in June 2017. The thing about Maru is the he is hot and cold. At his peak, he looks incredible, but then he also gets dropped unceremoniously. 2017. Wasn't that also the same year Serral achieved #1 ranking in Korea's ladder MMR? He was already the best in the world in terms of MMR rating before anybody even knew about him, and he just started playing full-time a few months prior? That was pretty much how quickly Flash transitioned to SC2 dominance, although he never quite achieved the best-in-Korea status. Being in high school is very overrated in terms of how much it effects being good at StarCraft. Just look at Reynor. Or how young Maru was when he won his first event. To be fair I doubt the guys who were winning tournaments at like 15 (Flash, Life, Maru) were doing particuarly well in school at the time. To actually graduate high school while being an elite player is impressive I don't know if school in Korea is harder than the US but I feel like anyone smart enough to win a top level StarCraft tournament at 15 could graduate high school in the US without ever spending any time outside of school hours on school work.
there is ppl who spend exactly 0 time learning stuff for school and easily graduate with good grades, no matter the school system. ppl like Flash/Life/Maru are geniuses in starcraft, i'm fairly confident they are intelligent enough to do well in school without doing jack shit for it.
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Little Serral was taking hits some 100-0 against His Protoss Big Brother.
The Hardest school you can imagine. Mama and Papa Sotala hugged the Little Brother. "It's ok to lose in the game. You will learn by playing it. Don't give up, Joona. We will love you regardless."
2000+ attempts later. Papa Sotala: *hint*... Protosser: *hint* Mama: *hugs*
2000+ attempts later...
Few more attempts later...
No rocket science required.
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Canada8989 Posts
What's happening and why are we telling fanfic about Serral parents?
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On August 19 2019 08:16 Nakajin wrote:
What's happening and why are we telling fanfic about Serral parents?
Do not know about that fanfic of parents part (as its true by all available sources and common sense), but the fanfic of recruitment of Post-Army Koreans to ENCE, Finland.
That entangle my (limited) imagination.
I'm sure there are relatively cheap team house facilities easily arrangeable (is that even a word?) in a woods. With decent internet connection, of course. People just tend to think too small in Finland. 
You can't just guide all that money from tl.net, particularly if you're a random zerg fanboy from Finland. Sad but true.
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On August 19 2019 05:35 necrosexy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 03:51 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 03:46 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2019 03:35 UnLarva wrote:On August 19 2019 03:31 Argonauta wrote:On August 19 2019 03:23 kaykoose wrote:On August 19 2019 02:58 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 02:54 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 02:47 Xain0n wrote:On August 19 2019 02:38 JJH777 wrote:
I loved the questionnaire segment specifically with Maru saying Serral wouldn't be as successful as T and that if he went to the circuit he would win everything until he retires. He tried to be modest at first but the lie detector caught him and he admitted the above. Specials answers were great too. Maru was saying that Rogue was better than Serral so maybe he's not that great at evaluating players. His specific statement was that if he practiced with rogue he could beat Serral easily and he stated that around the time of blizzcon last year. We haven't seen anything to disprove that. Rogue was in much better form back then and Serrals ZvT has also improved a lot since then. I think he was mediocre at the matchup until the loss to innovation at WESG. After that there's a significant improvement. Maru is better at evaluating players than 99% of the people who play or watch StarCraft. Nothing that Maru says about him vs. Serral is moot, because they will never face each other Right. Because Maru always loses early yeah fucking loser, never wins anything No, no, no! There are no SC2 fan who disrespects Maru. Its only the plain fact he has been unable to make it enough deep to actually meet Serral in any relevant tournament. How to make it happen is the point of discussion. We ALL would want to see that match, do we not? It happened. WESG 2018. That was before Serral evolved into the Serral we have now. They are still to face at peak power. he didn't lose a map before Maru. please
That again?
Serral was still losing series and not winning international tournaments in that part of his career, he had just won his first WCS event one month and half before and was transitioning from WCS prospect and ladder king to absolute top player; Maru, instead, was about to peak considering he would beat Dark(twice) and Stats to win WESG and his first Code S(the only two consecutive Premier titles he won, and the lone weekender he managed to win in his career).
When Maru and Serral played that bo5, it wasn't even the same patch in which Serral ascended to godlike form, winning every offline tournament he entered, most notably seven Premier events in seven months; Serral peaked at BlizzCon, and he became the korean killing machine we know between May(he lost his last match to soO in April at Nation Wars finals) and August when he triumphed at GSL vs the World.
So, no, Serral definitely wasn't playing as his level yet when that match occurred, the only time he faced Maru after that was the bo1 he won.
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On August 19 2019 11:33 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 05:35 necrosexy wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 03:46 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2019 03:35 UnLarva wrote:On August 19 2019 03:31 Argonauta wrote:On August 19 2019 03:23 kaykoose wrote:On August 19 2019 02:58 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 02:54 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 02:47 Xain0n wrote:
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Maru was saying that Rogue was better than Serral so maybe he's not that great at evaluating players.
His specific statement was that if he practiced with rogue he could beat Serral easily and he stated that around the time of blizzcon last year. We haven't seen anything to disprove that. Rogue was in much better form back then and Serrals ZvT has also improved a lot since then. I think he was mediocre at the matchup until the loss to innovation at WESG. After that there's a significant improvement. Maru is better at evaluating players than 99% of the people who play or watch StarCraft. Nothing that Maru says about him vs. Serral is moot, because they will never face each other Right. Because Maru always loses early yeah fucking loser, never wins anything No, no, no! There are no SC2 fan who disrespects Maru. Its only the plain fact he has been unable to make it enough deep to actually meet Serral in any relevant tournament. How to make it happen is the point of discussion. We ALL would want to see that match, do we not? It happened. WESG 2018. That was before Serral evolved into the Serral we have now. They are still to face at peak power. he didn't lose a map before Maru. please That again? Serral was still losing series and not winning international tournaments in that part of his career, he had just won his first WCS event one month and half before and was transitioning from WCS prospect and ladder king to absolute top player; Maru, instead, was about to peak considering he would beat Dark(twice) and Stats to win WESG and his first Code S(the only two consecutive Premier titles he won, and the lone weekender he managed to win in his career). When Maru and Serral played that bo5, it wasn't even the same patch in which Serral ascended to godlike form, winning every offline tournament he entered, most notably seven Premier events in seven months; Serral peaked at BlizzCon, and he became the korean killing machine we know between May(he lost his last match to soO in April at Nation Wars finals) and August when he triumphed at GSL vs the World. So, no, Serral definitely wasn't playing as his level yet when that match occurred, the only time he faced Maru after that was the bo1 he won.
Serral is a patch zerg god now? lol
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Serral back 2 back gsl vs world champ
Delicious.
Bonjwa
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On August 19 2019 11:33 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 05:35 necrosexy wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 03:46 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2019 03:35 UnLarva wrote:On August 19 2019 03:31 Argonauta wrote:On August 19 2019 03:23 kaykoose wrote:On August 19 2019 02:58 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 02:54 JJH777 wrote:On August 19 2019 02:47 Xain0n wrote:
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Maru was saying that Rogue was better than Serral so maybe he's not that great at evaluating players.
His specific statement was that if he practiced with rogue he could beat Serral easily and he stated that around the time of blizzcon last year. We haven't seen anything to disprove that. Rogue was in much better form back then and Serrals ZvT has also improved a lot since then. I think he was mediocre at the matchup until the loss to innovation at WESG. After that there's a significant improvement. Maru is better at evaluating players than 99% of the people who play or watch StarCraft. Nothing that Maru says about him vs. Serral is moot, because they will never face each other Right. Because Maru always loses early yeah fucking loser, never wins anything No, no, no! There are no SC2 fan who disrespects Maru. Its only the plain fact he has been unable to make it enough deep to actually meet Serral in any relevant tournament. How to make it happen is the point of discussion. We ALL would want to see that match, do we not? It happened. WESG 2018. That was before Serral evolved into the Serral we have now. They are still to face at peak power. he didn't lose a map before Maru. please That again? Serral was still losing series and not winning international tournaments in that part of his career, he had just won his first WCS event one month and half before and was transitioning from WCS prospect and ladder king to absolute top player; Maru, instead, was about to peak considering he would beat Dark(twice) and Stats to win WESG and his first Code S(the only two consecutive Premier titles he won, and the lone weekender he managed to win in his career). When Maru and Serral played that bo5, it wasn't even the same patch in which Serral ascended to godlike form, winning every offline tournament he entered, most notably seven Premier events in seven months; Serral peaked at BlizzCon, and he became the korean killing machine we know between May(he lost his last match to soO in April at Nation Wars finals) and August when he triumphed at GSL vs the World. So, no, Serral definitely wasn't playing as his level yet when that match occurred, the only time he faced Maru after that was the bo1 he won.
He won WCS, made ro4 at Katowice and ro4 at WESG.
This year around the same time he had made ro8 at Katowice, WESG finals and won WCS.
If they had met this year would you have also said he wasn't at his peak because he wasn't "winning every tournament he entered"?
Edit: you could argue this year he was in worse form because he actually lost WCS events.
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On August 19 2019 16:50 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 11:33 Xain0n wrote:On August 19 2019 05:35 necrosexy wrote:On August 19 2019 03:51 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 03:46 Charoisaur wrote:On August 19 2019 03:35 UnLarva wrote:On August 19 2019 03:31 Argonauta wrote:On August 19 2019 03:23 kaykoose wrote:On August 19 2019 02:58 HeroSandro wrote:On August 19 2019 02:54 JJH777 wrote:
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His specific statement was that if he practiced with rogue he could beat Serral easily and he stated that around the time of blizzcon last year. We haven't seen anything to disprove that. Rogue was in much better form back then and Serrals ZvT has also improved a lot since then. I think he was mediocre at the matchup until the loss to innovation at WESG. After that there's a significant improvement. Maru is better at evaluating players than 99% of the people who play or watch StarCraft. Nothing that Maru says about him vs. Serral is moot, because they will never face each other Right. Because Maru always loses early yeah fucking loser, never wins anything No, no, no! There are no SC2 fan who disrespects Maru. Its only the plain fact he has been unable to make it enough deep to actually meet Serral in any relevant tournament. How to make it happen is the point of discussion. We ALL would want to see that match, do we not? It happened. WESG 2018. That was before Serral evolved into the Serral we have now. They are still to face at peak power. he didn't lose a map before Maru. please That again? Serral was still losing series and not winning international tournaments in that part of his career, he had just won his first WCS event one month and half before and was transitioning from WCS prospect and ladder king to absolute top player; Maru, instead, was about to peak considering he would beat Dark(twice) and Stats to win WESG and his first Code S(the only two consecutive Premier titles he won, and the lone weekender he managed to win in his career). When Maru and Serral played that bo5, it wasn't even the same patch in which Serral ascended to godlike form, winning every offline tournament he entered, most notably seven Premier events in seven months; Serral peaked at BlizzCon, and he became the korean killing machine we know between May(he lost his last match to soO in April at Nation Wars finals) and August when he triumphed at GSL vs the World. So, no, Serral definitely wasn't playing as his level yet when that match occurred, the only time he faced Maru after that was the bo1 he won. He won WCS, made ro4 at Katowice and ro4 at WESG. This year around the same time he had made ro8 at Katowice, WESG finals and won WCS. If they had met this year would you have also said he wasn't at his peak because he wasn't "winning every tournament he entered"? Edit: you could argue this year he was in worse form because he actually lost WCS events.
We discussed about it so many times already.
How can you think Serral had already peaked in early 2018? He hadn't yet reached the level of consistency he showcased in the second half of the year and had not won a single tournament with koreans; Serral clearly had worse ZvT than Dark, worse ZvP than Rogue and worse ZvZ than soO.
After Nation Wars, Serral enjoyed ten months of victories only; saying that "Serral is only at his peak when he's not losing" is a little misleading when his period of invincibility lasted more than many players' career high and it is by far the longest in the history of Sc2. During those months he was the best in every matchup with the notable exception of his ZvT not being extensively tested so that you supposed Dark was still better(he had no competition for ZvP and beat soO at HSC), but at the end of the day he still went 6-0(16-7) against top koreans.
In early 2019, Serral wasn't playing as well as he did when he was at his best but most importantly he wasn't as clutch since he started losing most ace matches while, before, he was winning every single one; however, past group stages, Serral only lost to the eventual winner of the events and every series went to the full distance(except for the 2-4 against Reynor in WCS Summer) while he was stomped 0-3 by Maru and Classic in 2018. Also no other Zerg clearly seemed better than him in any matchup this year despite Serral not being the best in every one of them anymore(soO then Reynor in ZvZ, Dark in ZvP, maybe Solar in ZvT being his contenders).
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Serral would have easily a won WeSG had he not lost to Maru in the ro4.
"Not as his peak" please. He went 3-0 Neeb, 3-0 Lambo, 3-0 Showtime, 3-0 Elazer, and 3-1 Classic in the same event.
Just because Serral lost (to Maru of all people) doesn't mean he wasn't already in his stride. Just because he didn't win every tournament he entered at the time lmao. He's never done that and doesn't even do that now.
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Northern Ireland26760 Posts
I still think it’s significant that he broke through the wall in the way he did, both for his own mentality but also for the effect his record has on his opponents.
It’s still an impressive result for Maru, I wouldn’t have it on par with Inno doing it at the same tournament a year later though
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