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[ASUS ROG] Assembly Summer 2019 - Championship Sat - Page 3

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18195
Profile Joined August 2019
5 Posts
August 03 2019 05:54 GMT
#41
China's power is amazing
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 07:49:51
August 03 2019 07:49 GMT
#42
On August 03 2019 14:54 18195 wrote:
China's power is amazing

Well, TIME is helping China to have a good player. He's miles ahead of others when competing with non chinese players. He's great at TvT and almost as good at TvP, but I believe his TvZ is not that good so Serral should be tough.
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
August 03 2019 08:07 GMT
#43
He's roughly heromarine level of skill, or maybe slightly higher, which is to say there's no one in China that even comes close to him, but compared to the top 3 non-Koreans, he still has a long ways to go. Losing 2-3 to Masa doesn't help prove that he's "great" at TvT. If he takes more than 1 games off of Serral, I'd be really shocked...unless it's by proxy rax openings. That seems to be Serral's biggest ZvT weakness.
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 08:26:29
August 03 2019 08:25 GMT
#44
We all know TIME has extremely little chance, but we believe in miracles! :D
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 08:47:34
August 03 2019 08:44 GMT
#45
On August 03 2019 17:07 tigon_ridge wrote:
He's roughly heromarine level of skill, or maybe slightly higher, which is to say there's no one in China that even comes close to him, but compared to the top 3 non-Koreans, he still has a long ways to go. Losing 2-3 to Masa doesn't help prove that he's "great" at TvT. If he takes more than 1 games off of Serral, I'd be really shocked...unless it's by proxy rax openings. That seems to be Serral's biggest ZvT weakness.


Not very convincing when you judge a player by only one series
Let's talk statistics, here are the games he played against terran players in the past year:

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

WL ratio is 71:40
If that's not good TvT, I don't know what is.
Masa is a very good player, I wouldn't be surprised if any non-kr Terran losing a series or two to him.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 08:51:33
August 03 2019 08:48 GMT
#46
On August 03 2019 17:44 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 17:07 tigon_ridge wrote:
He's roughly heromarine level of skill, or maybe slightly higher, which is to say there's no one in China that even comes close to him, but compared to the top 3 non-Koreans, he still has a long ways to go. Losing 2-3 to Masa doesn't help prove that he's "great" at TvT. If he takes more than 1 games off of Serral, I'd be really shocked...unless it's by proxy rax openings. That seems to be Serral's biggest ZvT weakness.


Not very convincing when you judge a player by only one series
Let's talk statistics, here are the games he played against terran players in the past year:

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

WL ratio is 71:40
If that's not good TvT, I don't know what is.

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
10-26 in games (27,78%) and
2-12 in matches (14,29%) vs Koreans
Not to mention that even his winrate vs fellow foreigners would plummet, if his farming of Chinese Terrans weren't to have taken place
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 09:20:37
August 03 2019 09:13 GMT
#47
On August 03 2019 17:48 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 17:44 osliang wrote:
On August 03 2019 17:07 tigon_ridge wrote:
He's roughly heromarine level of skill, or maybe slightly higher, which is to say there's no one in China that even comes close to him, but compared to the top 3 non-Koreans, he still has a long ways to go. Losing 2-3 to Masa doesn't help prove that he's "great" at TvT. If he takes more than 1 games off of Serral, I'd be really shocked...unless it's by proxy rax openings. That seems to be Serral's biggest ZvT weakness.


Not very convincing when you judge a player by only one series
Let's talk statistics, here are the games he played against terran players in the past year:

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

WL ratio is 71:40
If that's not good TvT, I don't know what is.

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
10-26 in games (27,78%) and
2-12 in matches (14,29%) vs Koreans
Not to mention that even his winrate vs fellow foreigners would plummet, if his farming of Chinese Terrans weren't to have taken place


Look at who the opponents are in your link, some of the best KR Terran players right now, Maru, Gumiho, Cure.... not sure if any non-kr Terran player actually has a good chance beating these guys.

And if you must only compare the results with KR players, then in your words, there are probably no good non-KR players except Serral.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
August 03 2019 09:14 GMT
#48
On August 03 2019 17:48 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 17:44 osliang wrote:
On August 03 2019 17:07 tigon_ridge wrote:
He's roughly heromarine level of skill, or maybe slightly higher, which is to say there's no one in China that even comes close to him, but compared to the top 3 non-Koreans, he still has a long ways to go. Losing 2-3 to Masa doesn't help prove that he's "great" at TvT. If he takes more than 1 games off of Serral, I'd be really shocked...unless it's by proxy rax openings. That seems to be Serral's biggest ZvT weakness.


Not very convincing when you judge a player by only one series
Let's talk statistics, here are the games he played against terran players in the past year:

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

WL ratio is 71:40
If that's not good TvT, I don't know what is.

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
10-26 in games (27,78%) and
2-12 in matches (14,29%) vs Koreans
Not to mention that even his winrate vs fellow foreigners would plummet, if his farming of Chinese Terrans weren't to have taken place

He has only lost 2 series against non-chinese foreigners in TvT in the timeframe you used, one against Special and one aforementioned against Masa, while there's also a couple of strong wins against Special, Heromarine, Clem, etc.
He definitely has a case for best foreign TvT.
haha1453
Profile Joined July 2019
4 Posts
August 03 2019 09:17 GMT
#49
On August 03 2019 17:48 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 17:44 osliang wrote:
On August 03 2019 17:07 tigon_ridge wrote:
He's roughly heromarine level of skill, or maybe slightly higher, which is to say there's no one in China that even comes close to him, but compared to the top 3 non-Koreans, he still has a long ways to go. Losing 2-3 to Masa doesn't help prove that he's "great" at TvT. If he takes more than 1 games off of Serral, I'd be really shocked...unless it's by proxy rax openings. That seems to be Serral's biggest ZvT weakness.


Not very convincing when you judge a player by only one series
Let's talk statistics, here are the games he played against terran players in the past year:

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

WL ratio is 71:40
If that's not good TvT, I don't know what is.

http://aligulac.com/players/10115/results/?after=2018-08-01&before=2019-08-01&event=&race=t&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
10-26 in games (27,78%) and
2-12 in matches (14,29%) vs Koreans
Not to mention that even his winrate vs fellow foreigners would plummet, if his farming of Chinese Terrans weren't to have taken place

time vs kelazhur 13-2 in games and 5-0 in matches
special 10-10 in games and 5-4 in matches
uthermal 2-2 in games and 1-1 in matches
heromarine 3-0 in games and 1-0 in matches
marinelord 4-1 in games and 2-0 in matches
masa 4-3 in games and 1-1 in matches
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 03 2019 09:21 GMT
#50
Just watched TIME getting crushed in TvZ "semi" long game. Idk who the zerg was :D He never moved up from marine tank
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 09:25:58
August 03 2019 09:25 GMT
#51
Anyway, I am really surprised you guys are even talking about TIME LOL
It's going to be like a walk in the park for Serral, probably ends in 20 mins.
haha1453
Profile Joined July 2019
4 Posts
August 03 2019 09:33 GMT
#52
On August 03 2019 18:25 osliang wrote:
Anyway, I am really surprised you guys are even talking about TIME LOL
It's going to be like a walk in the park for Serral, probably ends in 20 mins.

time:I'd like to enjoy the cool air inside the stadium
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 03 2019 09:56 GMT
#53
Maybe I am just a coward... but no matter who Dark or Serral play... I always feel it is possible they lose.
I want Serral to win and think he probably will... but anything can happen.

The second I am sure someone will win... then I get heartbroken (yellow!)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 03 2019 10:04 GMT
#54
One thing other tournaments definitely should copy from ASUS ROG is the fact that the games start on schedule
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 03 2019 10:05 GMT
#55
On August 03 2019 19:04 Elentos wrote:
One thing other tournaments definitely should copy from ASUS ROG is the fact that the games start on schedule

Can't wait for Blizzcon with the casual pre-game interview - break - useless analysis desk - break - games + post-game interview - break - useless analysis desk - break
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
August 03 2019 10:07 GMT
#56
nice little derp
I Protoss winner, could it be?
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
August 03 2019 10:07 GMT
#57
On August 03 2019 19:04 Elentos wrote:
One thing other tournaments definitely should copy from ASUS ROG is the fact that the games start on schedule


But NOT the 1 hour break in the middle of the tourny... that's torturing!
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
August 03 2019 10:10 GMT
#58
On August 03 2019 19:07 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 19:04 Elentos wrote:
One thing other tournaments definitely should copy from ASUS ROG is the fact that the games start on schedule


But NOT the 1 hour break in the middle of the tourny... that's torturing!

One hour is nothing compared to the average Blizzcon.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 03 2019 10:13 GMT
#59
Can Dear finally win an offline bo3+ against Zest?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 03 2019 10:13 GMT
#60
On August 03 2019 19:07 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 19:04 Elentos wrote:
One thing other tournaments definitely should copy from ASUS ROG is the fact that the games start on schedule


But NOT the 1 hour break in the middle of the tourny... that's torturing!

Still more games per hour than other tournaments :D
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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