EPT[ASUS ROG] Assembly Summer 2019 - Championship Sat - Page 51
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punnyjunior
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 04 2019 09:40 Xain0n wrote: Serral's "slump" in 2019 is ro8 at IEM Katowice, ro4 at ASUS Rog, silver at WESG plus WCS Winter and Summer, titles at WCS Spring, HSC XIX and both WCS qualifiers. That's how top players look like, don't you think? Serral also lost every time to the eventual champion, in very tight series. Even then, you are right, Serral is slumping considering he won eight consecutive offline tournaments, six of which were Premiers, in the last seven months of 2018(not to mention he won other four online, losing only one to Neeb the week before BlizzCon); definitely bonjwaesque, Serral simply was the best player last year(yes, better than Maru). Lol you are trying so hard. Feeling a bit bitter? 2018 was close but Maru edges it in results. 2019 has no real bonjwa or best player. Serral only has a single win on tourney with Koreans and that is HSC where he drew with TY in the final. I would say in 2019 we have top 5 players Maru, Serral, Dark, Classic, Stats in no particular order. Next GSLs and Blizzcon will have to decide who will have the best year but Serral will have it the toughest from these he has the worst results. As for the "gap" this tourney just showed yet again that ist still quite huge. Koreans (and Serral) dominated HSC and AsusRog even more honestly foreignland had the most favorable draw and still kinda screwed up in the end... | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 04 2019 10:04 punnyjunior wrote: I guess Region lock will be here for another 5 years with how bad WCS are Neeb and Scarlett are slumping and Reynor is terrible in late game and inconsistent, but Serral is quite good  so is Special and Time is probably top 16 GSL as well | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 04 2019 10:13 MarianoSC2 wrote: Lol you are trying so hard. Feeling a bit bitter? 2018 was close but Maru edges it in results. 2019 has no real bonjwa or best player. Serral only has a single win on tourney with Koreans and that is HSC where he drew with TY in the final. I would say in 2019 we have top 5 players Maru, Serral, Dark, Classic, Stats in no particular order. Next GSLs and Blizzcon will have to decide who will have the best year but Serral will have it the toughest from these he has the worst results. As for the "gap" this tourney just showed yet again that ist still quite huge. Koreans (and Serral) dominated HSC and AsusRog even more honestly foreignland had the most favorable draw and still kinda screwed up in the end... It's simply false that Serral is slumping in 2019. We judge tournaments in a different way, Serral was better than Maru in 2018(it's useless to argue, really, I too think it was quite close) and he isn't the one who has had the worst results in 2019 out of the players you listed, but it's true that this year there is no clear best player. The most favorable ro16 draw for foreigners would have been one with Serral having more koreans in his group and korean Zerg paired out of the all korean group so that there could be some ZvZ. Perfect parity between korean and foreigners was probably achieved for some time in Beta and it won't realistically ever reached anymore, the goal is having foreigners capable of beating koreans in one open scene like it was in WoL. The gap is still there at the moment and it is significant but I would not say it's huge. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
Stats called him the best zerg in the world. Top 4 is a very good result. Everything isn't god or ant. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25558 Posts
On August 04 2019 10:41 Xain0n wrote: It's simply false that Serral is slumping in 2019. We judge tournaments in a different way, Serral was better than Maru in 2018(it's useless to argue, really, I too think it was quite close) and he isn't the one who has had the worst results in 2019 out of the players you listed, but it's true that this year there is no clear best player. The most favorable ro16 draw for foreigners would have been one with Serral having more koreans in his group and korean Zerg paired out of the all korean group so that there could be some ZvZ. Perfect parity between korean and foreigners was probably achieved for some time in Beta and it won't realistically ever reached anymore, the goal is having foreigners capable of beating koreans in one open scene like it was in WoL. The gap is still there at the moment and it is significant but I would not say it's huge. If the game doesn’t really decline complete and without some other kind of change to the scene structurally foreigners will overtake Korea. Hopefully not and the nation that did so much for the Starcraft(s) stays up at the top, but in the current environment where they aren’t producing new breakout players, those who’ve returned from military aren’t even back to top foreigner level and their elite players can’t avoid military service, I’m not sure how Korea can stay at the top in perpetuity. WCS has worked pretty darn well in raising the level, but I don’t feel what it does well has been applied to Korea. Having to be amongst the very best in the world in your chosen field to make decent money was sustainable when you had team houses and practice environments so that those not ready to make good tournament money could improve at the game with great practice, with living stability until they were ready to step up (or not as the case may be) I mean you can’t just bring back those environments, but Code S has a crazy low prize pool for how high a level it’s at, Super Tournament is crazily low. If Blizz even boosted those pools, especially for the Ro32 level it makes it more viable for those on the periphery to dedicate to playing full time and trying to make that breakthrough. Making some kind of successor to Code A with half decent money on the line might be a good idea too. | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
First it looked like Serral would routinely (albeit with some adequate difficulties considering the level of opponent) overrun Stats to yet another finals, but then Stats adjusted. Handless Serral was left without proper counter-tactics, couldn't adapt on fly like his opponent, and thus Stats made him look worse than he is. Happy with the outcome as I find Stats very likable as person and player. If its must be a Protoss who kicks Serral's arse in ZvP to drop him out from brackets, then it shall be Stats thereafter. Tournament was excellently organized, enjoyable to watch, and high quality. Even that DDos-attack cannot be that bad thing when you think it from bigger picture: Tournament must be interesting, if one bother hack'n'crack against it, no matter how low act that is otherwise. Please Blizzard, Asus, and co. Let this tournament have a scheduled place in the tournament calendar for years to come, don't change anything big, but award points for Koreans/GSL players too (from same points pool). | ||
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Penev
28483 Posts
On August 04 2019 06:19 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: ![[image loading]](https://thedirtyrottenorangelookingapple.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/10-most-awesomely-bad-santas-passed-out-drunk-santa.jpg) This one is for Serral look at his pristine white socks, Santa truly is magic | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 04 2019 11:18 AttackZerg wrote: Someone is either dominating or slumping to some of you. Stats called him the best zerg in the world. Top 4 is a very good result. Everything isn't god or ant. yeah, very much agreed. I only regret this wasnt the finals, it was quite obvious for me they are the top 2 of the tournament. Shame Stats doesnt bring this level of play every time. Discounting game 1, he played this series so incredibly well, any aspiring Protoss champion can and should learn from him. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 04 2019 11:18 AttackZerg wrote: Someone is either dominating or slumping to some of you. Stats called him the best zerg in the world. Top 4 is a very good result. Everything isn't god or ant. Some call him the best player of the world which he isn't. (and wasn't even in 2018 unless we talk about the biased TL reward  ) | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25558 Posts
On August 04 2019 22:13 deacon.frost wrote: Some call him the best player of the world which he isn't. (and wasn't even in 2018 unless we talk about the biased TL reward )Blasphemer. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 04 2019 22:13 deacon.frost wrote: Some call him the best player of the world which he isn't. (and wasn't even in 2018 unless we talk about the biased TL reward )In 2018 as a whole we can discuss, as we extensively did, if Serral's year was better than Maru's(it's TL's reward that is biased, obviously xD); in the second half of 2018 Serral was the best player in the world, I doubt even you could say the opposite. | ||
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Gina
241 Posts
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UnLarva
458 Posts
Serral saved the game. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
After losing that protracted split map. He decided to play the most aggressive and tricky protoss style and then pulled it off with incredible mechanics. I voted for Stats in gsl v world because of his prior matches v Serral and what I saw as the best pvz in the game. To get your back broken and comeback like that. Only a true champion can rise in that situation. Congratulations Stats. You made a new fan. Also, Serral is much better then his korean zerg peers. Solar is a strong player.... but not even in the same league. A ZvP tournament would be great. Dark and Serral v Classic and Stats. Serral is the best ZvT. I think Dark maybe better ZvP. I want to find out. Thanks fans, hosts, commentators, players and sponsors. Great event. Great casting. Any tournament with zergs which Lambo doesn't qualify... he should be casting. He is one of the best casters I ever heard. Thanks again. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44465 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 05 2019 11:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Great series of Stats vs. Serral, and lol at the poll trolling in the OP, with TIME being voted. Tme showed the best TvZ in this tournament - imo. And there were some strong Ts here. | ||
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