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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
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Pandain
United States12860 Posts
On May 23 2019 01:44 Ej_ wrote: You literally responded to a post that argued that. Did you actually read the entire exchange (which was based on Shuffeblade pointing out that yes, it's more impressive when you achieve success with limited time, but what you do besides Starcraft doesn't change your image as a Starcraft player)? Because the take you offered is a repeat of what had been said by the 2 original parties in the discussio. You don't need to explain it to anyone. Or explain it again in the reply to my post. His main point was not the quality of Polt's university, but rather the fact that he was (quote) " part-time studying for university, and part-time winning multiple WCS Americas". So clearly it is you who did not understand what was being argued, so I would take the time to re-read it. His mention of polt going to a "top" university was not his main point, just the fact that he was doing both. And then I added my own thoughts, which of course agree with one side but I added more nuance and explanation. I have no idea why you are really caught up on this. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8763 Posts
On May 23 2019 04:27 Yonnua wrote: Wow, herO and Dark going down to the wire with only a few hours left to go. Looks like this could end up being the closest match so far. I was expecting a landslide victory for herO, really surprise by this! But unless we have a tie it can't be the closes match: Gumi-Solar was 1 vote appart. | ||
Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
On May 23 2019 05:17 Nakajin wrote: I was expecting a landslide victory for herO, really surprise by this! But unless we have a tie it can't be the closes match: Gumi-Solar was 1 vote appart. Well there are more votes in this one, so if it stays one vote apart, it's closer than Solar-Gumiho (but I checked and there was a draw in an earlier round). | ||
Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On May 23 2019 05:37 Yonnua wrote: Well there are more votes in this one, so if it stays one vote apart, it's closer than Solar-Gumiho (but I checked and there was a draw in an earlier round). I know for sure there hasn't been a draw in ro 64 and forward, not at the time of counting anyway. It is possible more people have voted and thus created a draw now but that was not the official result in that case. Check the first post and tell us where the draw was because I cant find it. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8763 Posts
On May 23 2019 06:49 Shuffleblade wrote: I know for sure there hasn't been a draw in ro 64 and forward, not at the time of counting anyway. It is possible more people have voted and thus created a draw now but that was not the official result in that case. Check the first post and tell us where the draw was because I cant find it. There was a draw between Thorzain and Roro in the group stage, but not in the round of 64, so you're both right. Also there's a link to the liquipedia page in the first post, it's faster then looking in my 1000 spoilers post. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8763 Posts
Match 5 Liquid HerO: 6 votes soO: 70 votes soO goes through! Match 6 herO: 37 votes Dark: 36 votes Another heartbreaking defeat for Dark as herO move ahead to face soO | ||
Nakajin
Canada8763 Posts
Bomber vs Nestea: Let the kids do their things Bomber: 1 WCS Season, 1 MLG, 1 codeA, 1 WCS NA, 2 Redbull NesTea: 3 GSL, 1 Blizzcon final, 2 GSTL It’s a well know Starcraft truthism that it’s a game for the young, a lot of reason are brought up; better reaction time, healthier wrists, less distractions from the game, a faster brain to comprehend the game… As the two oldest players left in the competition, theses next two competitor defy this. It wasn’t only their age that made them stand out in a crowd of teenagers, it was their disregard for all the tenants of SC2. The thousand of young overexcited dreamers could have their fun pretending to know the perfect way to play, the perfect strategy, the perfect practice regiment, Bomber and NesTea have been there long enough to know full well that when push come to shove all that matter is those few short moments in the boot. Long time Startale player Bomber entered the top echelon of SC2 competition with a bang, running through a gauntlet of TVT to win his first ever code A over already two times GSL champ Mvp. He would quickly follow this initial success with solid run in code S, a Dreamhack semi-final and his first major win at MLG Raleigh over CoCa. Bomber never was the cleanest of player, but his ability to out macro pretty much all his opponent made him more then able to become one of the best in Korea. He would pretty much follow the meta for most of WOL but with less and less success as time went on as everyone else caught up to his mechanics and exploited his predictability, and it seemed like he would be phase out of the scene like most of the older generation of progammers as new young blood came in. Bomber probably realize this himself and when HOTS and the Kespa transition arrived he seemed to have decided to stop trying to run after the younglings and just do his own thing. It was never the super out there, Has style, weirdness, but just a bit different, where you watch it and you are not always quite sure if he’s either exploiting the meta or just not caring about it. Be it walking 15 naked marines across to map with a 3 rax 3CC build worthy of a theory crafting between 2 gold leagues, building tanks and doing his best re-creation of the badly aged Indiana Jones vs the scimitar wielding Arab, proxying reaper half a decade before and after it was cool (g5) or finally proving right every 2010 whiners going pure, 120+ marines vs Polt. His new ability to mix up his builds only enhance his strong macro and rather greedy play that give us some legendary series versus Scarlett (every single one of them), Polt or Pigbaby. The new man Bomber got to the top of the world, he won WCS season 2 against the best Korea had to offer, and finish in the top 4 of Blizzcon. He then went to a quick one-year trip in North America dominating the region as he went to reach 4 tournament final, winning 3 of them only falling to Pigbaby on a mission. In all his career Bomber ever got eliminated of a tournament three time by player older than him, Sen when he won the Taiwan open, WC3 legend Moon who has barely a month over him older and finally none other then the allfather of SC2, the creator of the universe NesTea (more widely known as NESSSTEAAAAA). At 25 he was already considered an old man when he played his first SC2 game. In Brood war he was a solid 2v2 player, which isn’t quite as sad as it sounds in SC2 but still was a far cry from a success story. SC2 was his ticket to greatness, while the first ever GSL escaped him giving us the chance the hear Artosis advancing the idea of FruitDealer being the first SC2 Bonjwa (spoiler he wasn’t). He went 13-0 in the second ever GSL before triumphing over young star MKP 4-3 in the final and became the first truly great Starcraft player. He would also be one of the founding fathers of IM along side notable players Losira and Mvp and would lead them to the first GSTL win playing only a single map in the entire tournament as the last player to come out in a 3-3 lock grand final. Nestea would go on to win 2 more GSL, including the only perfect run in the history of the tournament, be the first to qualify for 10 consecutive code S, and reach the final of a Blizzcon. Maybe it was his time as back bencher and KT coach in BW that helped NesTea be able to figure this new game faster and better then anyone else. He understood how zerg was meant to play right of the bat and use the new macro mechanics and easier commands of SC2 to pioneer zerg reactive macro play. While FruitDealer success was build on alternating between all ins and full on greed, NesTea understood that map control and a fine balanced between drones and units was what would make and break his race in this new Starcraft and happily exploited everyone else lack of understanding of the game to rule as the best Zerg in the world for almost 2 years until guys like DRG and Leenock caught up to him. Nowadays you would be hard pressed to find someone who could look at Nestea GSL brackets and remember who half the player were, his battles against, Ensnare, sC, Virus, TheWinD, anypro or Zenio evoque at most a vague recollection, as the games themselves have been largely lost to time in the dept of the Internet. But no one ever forgot Nestea, the time he erased a quadrillion thors with 5 quadrillions banelings, the time he made Inca who went in the final with a 10-1 record look like a lost child or the many many Tastosis jokes. He was the first SC2 Korean superstars and proved everyone else that there was more to this game then fast fingers. Poll: Who is the greatest player? Bomber (12) NesTea (52) 64 total votes You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Bomber Polt vs Neeb : Capitain America civil war Polt: 2 WCS NA, 2 WCS, 1 ST, 1 MLG, 1 Asus Rog Neeb: 3 WCS, 1 KC, 1 GSL Semi-final, 1 Dreamhack final Polt was an odd choice to somehow become nickname “Captain America”. Coming from WC3 he spends his first years in the GOMTvT where is first contact with the western scene would be a defeat in the hand of Jinro in GSL 3. His triomph in the Super Tournament crowned by a crushing victory against MMA in the final included an elimination of fan favorite HuK. The first time he went to America for MLG he eliminated 5 straight foreigners in the championship bracket only to fall to the first Korean he faced, he then went on to win Asus Rog versus foreign hope Stephano. When he went on to face ThorZaIN the final of Dreamhack Stockolm he was very much the Korean enemy for the hometown hero to defeat and the only flag we could have fathom him wave was that (sick) Prime flag. When Polt decided to migrate to America, he was considered a very solid code S player with a Korean championship under his belt, but was somewhat hidden by the shear masses of top Terrans in the region. Yet again he seemed like the perfect representation of Koreans who flew away from competition only to make a living bulling foreigner. Polt would be on the forefront of the Koreans dreamcrushing army; he straight up tilted the best US player IdrA into retirement in WCS season 1, something he would do again to the best foreign toss NaNiwa not even a year latter. Polt dominated his first year in America, winning 3 straight tournaments (MLG, WCS NA 2-3) eliminating NaNiwa at MLG and destroying fan favorite JD in the final of WCS season 2. It’s pretty much at this point that the US fan made their choice, if you can beat him, join him. Polt knowledge of the english language, his decision of living in America and his confident, borderline cocky, attitude were deemed enough for him to become the US champion in a tournament scene full with Koreans. Polt himself would thrive in this new identity, more liberty in his practice regiment only heighten his skills and he would fully embrace the unbreakable spirit and scrappy persona of the Marvel hero. From a rather standard terran in Korea he would find his own playstyle base on his ability to find opportunity to comeback and create chaos in game. In his tvp battle in the 2014 protoss hellscape that was IEM Cologne he would out-multitask the best in the world, against Hydra he would refuse the mech way to play long drawn out bio macro game even when he was on the backfoot, or when he tune it up to 11 to beat Neeb in WCS Montreal. He would go on to reach six more WCS semi-finals with two more trophy and become the most dominant WCS circuit in HOTS and early LOTV. Still with the exception of his IEM Cologne run, Polt had little success outside of WCS, contrary to fellow expatriate like HyuN, MMA or TaeJa, he was never able to really make a strong impression in global or Korean events. In a world where US starcraft had to adopt Koreans to lure themselves into thinking they had success in this game Neeb came as a saving grace. The fire truck amateur passed his first years as a young terran up and comer of the NA scene, which in non bullshit term meant someone who occasionally got pass the first group stage of a WCS only to lose when he had to face half decent Koreans. Like Classic before him, his switch to protoss as well as a new expansion help him get his career going. He would reach 4 top 4 in the new WCS circuit composed of only a couple of Korean two of them, Polt and Hydra, would stop him late in tournament. Neeb seemed to have beneficiate just as much of the WCS changes as Polt before him, and while he was the first real good US player in forever it was hard not to link it to the expulsion of Koreans. Then, just as Polt retired, came Kespa Cup. In the Korean capital is where Neeb would truly become the new Captain America, his masterful control over the pvp match up with the yet unknown stalker disruptor meta carried him to what was a rather easy victory. For the first time ever in the game a non-Korean had won a Korean tournament, and an American on top of that. From the laughing stock to the top of the world, Neeb proved there was more to NA Starcraft then meme builds, rage and perennial “up and comer”. (Although let’s be honest he never loss his good old NA mass adepts) Neeb would go on to have a (very shortly) historic dominance of the WCS circuit winning 3 out of 4 events, but he would be unable to make deep run in global tournament in 2018, a trend strangely similar to Polt before him. A fast look at the standing board would lead someone to believe Serral overtook Neeb in 2018, but Neeb in fact never faced Serral in WCS, instead losing to other top foreigners. Despite this disappointing year in WCS Neeb would find success elsewhere, getting one map away from a GSL final and winning the Hangzhou Carnival against Koreans as well as having solid run in IEM and WESG. Polls are open until may 25 around 8 pm EST Theses polls are closed | ||
neutralrobot
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Ej_
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On May 23 2019 05:07 Pandain wrote: His main point was not the quality of Polt's university, but rather the fact that he was (quote) " part-time studying for university, and part-time winning multiple WCS Americas". So clearly it is you who did not understand what was being argued, so I would take the time to re-read it. His mention of polt going to a "top" university was not his main point, just the fact that he was doing both. And then I added my own thoughts, which of course agree with one side but I added more nuance and explanation. I have no idea why you are really caught up on this. Because I don't like when: A) people read selectively B) state the absolutely obvious, that everybody knows and agrees on, as a hot take, pretending there's some kind of a discussion regarding that But I guess there's no making you read that again and I won't analyze an entire forum post part by part when I'm on my phone. But again, only thing Shuffleblade did contest was the unnecessary mention of the quality of the university Polt attended (which is very visible when you read the part comparing Polt to a hypothetical part-time worker Mvp) | ||
Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
I really thought Polt was an easy pick over Neeb but when I look closer its actually super close, I voted Polt and I think what sets him apart for me is his unique playstyle. | ||
JoeCool
Germany2517 Posts
On May 23 2019 05:17 Nakajin wrote: I was expecting a landslide victory for herO, really surprise by this! Edit: My mistake. I think theres almost no reason not to vote for Nestea, 3 GSL titles in the beginning of SC2 and together with MVP one of the most dominant players back in the days. | ||
neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On May 23 2019 16:51 JoeCool wrote: Edit: My mistake. I think theres almost no reason not to vote for Nestea, 3 GSL titles in the beginning of SC2 and together with MVP one of the most dominant players back in the days. Plus he's the only player Tastosis hyped more than Clide. That alone is hall of fame worthy. | ||
Acrofales
Spain17185 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8763 Posts
On May 23 2019 21:24 Acrofales wrote: I expected Polt to ride roughshod over Neeb. It's actually a lot closer in results than I thought. Polt slightly edges him out on results, I guess. I voted Neeb because fanboy, but honestly whoever wins this one should be matched with Serral in a Ro16+ match. Not quite sure how the seeding worked, but Neeb or Polt in the top 16 over Serral is a bit weird. I don't think either Polt or Neeb really are top 16 personnaly, I voted Polt but I think he's generally overrated, if you gave Bomber, HyuN or MMA the opportunity to play two more year of WCS with almost no korean they would also have an impressive WCS trophy collection. Plus past mid 2014 Polt almost never won vs Koreans. (Including a 32,5% match winrate vs Korean zergs not name Violet since 2014) For both it's really a mater of getting most of their results vs foreigner. (contrary to Serral who got both) But in head to head it is rather close (1 Korean tournament, a bunch of WCS, a GSL semi and some other wins in major although only 1 for Neeb) I would have voted players like Serral, DRG, Bomber/Nestea, Rain/Stats ahead of them both, but that's the way of the draw! Also 2 thing. First: If you have the time go watch Bomber-Pigbaby WCS final, it's an amazing forgotten series. Edit: NVM about the second thing I can't read a bracket, Nestea never lost to anyone older than him | ||
Jealous
9974 Posts
On May 23 2019 21:24 Acrofales wrote: I expected Polt to ride roughshod over Neeb. It's actually a lot closer in results than I thought. Welcome to the foreign community. | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On May 23 2019 21:40 Nakajin wrote: I don't think either Polt or Neeb really are top 16 personnaly, I voted Polt but I think he's generally overrated, if you gave Bomber, HyuN or MMA the opportunity to play two more year of WCS with almost no korean they would also have an impressive WCS trophy collection. Plus past mid 2014 Polt almost never won vs Koreans. (Including a 32,5% match winrate vs Korean zergs not name Violet since 2014) For both it's really a mater of getting most of their results vs foreigner. (contrary to Serral who got both) But in head to head it is rather close (1 Korean tournament, a bunch of WCS, a GSL semi and some other wins in major although only 1 for Neeb) I would have voted players like Serral, DRG, Bomber/Nestea, Rain/Stats ahead of them both, but that's the way of the draw! Also 2 thing. First: If you have the time go watch Bomber-Pigbaby WCS final, it's an amazing forgotten series. Edit: NVM about the second thing I can't read a bracket, Nestea never lost to anyone older than him Yeah that Pigbaby-Bomber finals was hilarious and amazing | ||
Nakajin
Canada8763 Posts
Match 7 Bomber: 9 votes NesTea: 53 votes NesTea goes through! Match 8 Polt: 40 votes Neeb: 16 votes Polt goes through! Update in a few hours, I'm not home right now | ||
Nakajin
Canada8763 Posts
MMA vs TY: Team houses MMA: 1 Blizzard cup, 1 GSL, 2 WCS EU, 1 Iron Squid, 2 GSTL MVP, 1 Blizzcon final TY: 1 WESG, 1 IEM Katowice, 2 GSL final, 1 Blizzcon semi-final If we had to find a star for a Starcraft movie MMA would be the perfect candidate. On top of good look and poise in front of the cameras, he has everything from hailed as the savior of his team, to a messy breakup from his tutor, from getting upset by outsiders to being the one creating the upset and from cruising as the best in the world to a desert dry period before getting back at the top. He began his illustrious journey on Korean legendary team SlayerS, well before his first code S appearances MMA would become the unexpected ace of BoxeR squad. Leading the team to back to back GSTL championship, earning two MVP award and defeating a triumvirate of the best in the world: MC (lost to time), DRG and Mvp in ace matches. He had a shot at calling himself the best in the world before even qualifying for a premier tournament, but he would quickly remediate to that as he went to the final of Super Tournament playing pure tvt, his glorious entry was sadly spoiled by a sound defeat at the hands of Polt. He would nonetheless make a quick trip to the US to get an MLG trophy, followed by a silver medal at his second MLG. His second try would also be the good one in Code S as he rolled over Mvp to win his first GSL in October of 2011 (fun fact he once again played almost only tvt, losing his only non mirror of the tournament vs NesTea). The end of the first act of "MMA : the high and low of a Starcraft legend" would culminate at the 2011 Blizzard Cup with first another resounding victory against his rival Mvp and then an amazing rally in the ultimate map of the final to stop DRG reverse sweep and be crown world champion. As MMA was thrown into the air by his teammates in front of a delirious crowd, he seemed destined to dominate the Starcraft world. He wouldn’t win his next 2 GSL but dual victory in IEM Kiev and Iron Squid as well as overall strong results would more than make up for it. As the second act open, the sky would fall down on top of MMA late 2012. Controversy began to grew in the SlayerS team and it reach the Internet where thousand of fans discussed, lash out and spread false rumours on the subject for weeks. In the end, the Emperor prodigal son left the team in infamy as Boxer team collapsed soon after. At the same time, and probably not randomly, his results took a big nose dive. He would be quickly kick out of Code S and disappeared of the latter stages of tournaments for more then a year. Him signing with Acer and going to Europe was already a way to acknowledge his failure in Korea, but a defeat in the round of 16 of WCS, including loss against Strelok and Feast where hard to digest and his biggest rival Mvp would pile on the humiliation winning the whole thing. As MMA individual career was in an all time low it seems to have been the opportunity to restart playing in team leagues that rekindle the fire, his comeback to GSTL and the start of the ATSC in 2013 was exactly what he needed. A round of 4 in WCS EU season 2 signalled somewhat of a return to form and his first WCS trophy at the end of the year conjugate with a GSLT win as well as being one of the most dominant players in the ATSC, bringing his team to three final and two trophy, confirmed us he reconnect with success. However, the context was far different from his early time as SlayerS ace. GSTL had become a second tier team league and victory was achieve mostly by Acer buying ProLeague star INnoVation, he was the champion of the weakest WCS region and ATSC, despite how dominant he was in it, was, at the end of the day, an online team league where most of the players were foreigners. With two others WCS EU finals including a revenge over MC and a win in a pretty easy Dreamhack where he faced jjakji in the final. The middle part of MMA biopic would see him getting accustom to be one of the best in the European circuit but failing to show up against Kespa Koreans. Coming on his 27 birthday and military service, it seemed like MMA had manage to make a nice place for himself behind the ping wall of Europe to finish his time enjoying success in the small leagues after an illustrious career. When Blizzcon 2014 came around MMA reminded us why he was the hero of the story, upsetting Bomber and Classic in the semi final and stand once more on the biggest stage of them all. In the end, he was unable to regain the title world title, falling to Life. Still he surprised everyone at the tournament and reminded everybody that WCS results were nothing to scoff at as he kept going with a semi-final in the following GSL. A lazy end to MMA movie would have seen him triumph at Blizzcon or conquer GSL on his return to Korea, getting back to where he was at the start. Instead, years after he got threw into the air by his SlayerS teammates, the victory chants of M.M.A. echoed once more but this time in an overcrowded German loft, followed not by bombastic music but by a serenade of his old friend MC as the entire Starcraft community came together to give a last farewell to one of the game great. MMA story ended at the perfect place, Home. When BaBy/TY became the youngest player ever drafted by a Kespa Team at just 12 years old it was clear that someone saw in him a talent unlike any other. Now more then 12 years after, we can safely say that the WeMadeFox staff was wrong, TY isn’t a particularly talented Starcraft player. He was a good BW player for a teenager but didn’t explode into the scene, neither was he particularly great at SC2 when it came out. But the Kespa scout gave him an opportunity few ever had, spending half his life in a house surround by a dozen other peoples playing, eating and breathing Starcraft 24/7. At an age when others kids where thrown into the maelstrom of teenage life, he was spending his time analysing replay with a bunch of 20 years old and earning money playing match on TV. For the first half of his SC2 career, TY barely hold on to keep his place as an elite player. He would qualify only three time for Code S before 2015, losing in the round of 32 every time. In proleague for Team 8/Jin Air then KT he would be good enough to be worth sending out every pretty much everyone but not good enough to carry his team. His strong macro play and his ability to plan out intricate build and exploit pattern in his opponents, a talent he acquire in his young days, would carry him to many victories, including an impressive 7 straight wins at the start of the 2014 season, but ultimately it wouldn’t be enough to overcome a lack of in game flair, as he would end his proleague career with only a single year a little over 50%. He started to show growth in 2015 getting a GSL round of 8 and losing in the semi-final of SSL, only missing his first final by a single map as ByuL managed to best him on He would continue to impress the rest of the year, elaborating great build and getting praise as one of the best terran in the world, it seemed like TY had finally made it to the top, but he failed to reach another final, losing multiple series he came in as the favorite. When proleague finally ended at the end of 2016 and the KT team house closed its doors, TY was sent back into the world. A 22 years old man who had spend most of his teenage and early adult years getting housed, feed and surrounded by staffs and players so that someday he could finally live up to the what everyone said was his potential. Finally it was in the 2016-17 “off” season, more then 10 years after he was drafted, that he finally tastes victory, proving that all those years were not in vain. He chose his moment to do so, earning 300k in a back to back winning effort in WESG and IEM Katowice. TY didn’t do it in dominant fashion, against Maru in the final of WESG he had to pull every trick of his bag to win a tvt nail bitter and in IEM he would finish 20 and 14 in map saving 8 tournaments games and playing one of the great tvp series of LOTV. TY has not taste victory since then, sometime by the smallest of margins, but he has been one of the best terran in the last 2 years, getting to 2 premier finals and 3 semi-finals. For one hailed as a prodigy it paradoxically took him a lot more time and practice then most to finally get Starcraft, but TY his experience of spending half his life in Kespa to make himself into someone impossible to forget when thinking about this game greats. Maru vs HyuN: The greatest jobber Maru: 4 GSL, 1 OSL, 1 SSL, 1 WESG, 1 ProLeague MVP HyuN: 1 WCS NA, 1 Dreamhack, 1 GSL final, IPL Fight club longest reining champ As we get in the latter stage of this tournament, we get more and more heart-breaker choices, looking in at this match up it doesn’t really seem like one. I try flipping it any way, but there isn’t really a lot of way I can put HyuN in front of Maru, except maybe swagger. Does this mean HyuN is a chump? Not a all, he’s part of the Starcraft great, but let’s be honest HyuN is the greatest Starcraft representative of one entertainment oldest tradition: The jobber. A jobber is someone who’s whole job is to make his opponent look good, but a good jobber doesn’t take a dive at the first punch, he makes it interesting. He must find a good balance between making people stay interested in the upcoming match with a certain array of uncertainty and knowing when to pack up his bag and give the spotlight to his opponent. HyuN fit that role perfectly, he dressed in funny costume, was a great off game entertainer without stealing the show, look buffed and most off all he was the perfect bench mark for everyone else. Beating HyuN was always an accomplishment and getting overwhelm by HyuN roaches was never truly embarrassing, if a commentator wanted to make a case for someone chance in the upcoming match nothing could match: “And of course he beat HyuN who, we all know, is an amazing zerg….” Would anyone remember the rightly name “destroyer of worlds, dreams and fun” Sniper if it wasn’t for his GSL win? Of course not, but who better than the TSL zerg to make his final a rather enjoyable watch while still putting the final touch to Sniper infamous legacy. The IEM New York could have ended in a boring zvz, but instead we get foreign hope NaNiwa getting up against Life on the back of a pvz upset. What better ending for the storied career of Sen, perhaps the best non-Korean Starcraft player that side of Serral, than a victory on the wire in front of his home crowd? What zerg could have given the opportunity for Pigbaby to demonstrate show that he wasn’t just a pvt sniper on his way to a WCS? Would Captain America ever have existed if HyuN hadn’t given Polt a close back and forth series in the MLG final? Would we remember INnovation meltdown at Blizzcon the same way if we hadn’t seen him stomp HuyN in the same match up a week earlier? Of course, a great jobber can’t always lose, he has to win once in while but even then HuyN knew how to chose his moment, be it either eliminating fan favorite of tournament to set up his upcoming defeat at the hand of someone else or win a few tournaments when the time was right. Jaedong 2013 would have been a dry story line if he had won a final before Blizzcon, breaking his Kong line and there was no better time to win a WCS and confirm his place as a constant treat then the one when the rest of the top 4 was relative unknown Oz, Alicia and Revival. Is HyuN a greater player then Maru? Well I’m gonna let you decide that, but I will restrain myself from talking about Maru right now, let’s just say I expect I’ll have a lot to say about someone victory over an amazing zerg in a few weeks. Bracket are open until may 29 around 8 pm EST These polls are closed | ||
ZigguratOfUr
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