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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
April 14 2019 07:15 GMT
#361
On April 14 2019 09:06 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 08:55 burnturn wrote:
Just a little suggestion to Nakajin, but do you think you could who is going to be playing against someone who's already in the bracket in the future? Like is Neeb going against the second placer from group 30, or is Harstem going against the first placer in group 32? Thanks, just a suggestion though.
Edit: Like the A2 versus B1 thing they do for the GSL bracket.


Bracket are already done!
(Wiki)User:Nakajin/Greatest of all time pool bracket stage

1st place finisher of the "high" group (group 1 to 16) face up against the second place finisher of a lower group (group 17 to 32) and vice and versa. Also there is seeding in the bracket depending on the group (no1 of the high group are in place 1 to 16, no1 of the low group 17 to 32, no2 of the high group 33 to 48...) so for example no first place finisher of the high group can meet each-other until the round of 16.
And finally player in the same group are placed on opposite side of the bracket.
For exemple Taeja (A1) face of against Nerchio (B25) while DRG (A17) face of against Boxer (B9).
Hope that answer your question!



Hahaha!!! Omg, Leenock vs Jjakji again!!

THIS TIME LEENOCK WILL HAVE HIS VENGEANCE!!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 14 2019 09:31 GMT
#362
Best IDs:
Hack, FlaSh

Worst:
Hard to recall all the terrible ones I've seen, but Lucy and BboongBboong were pretty bad.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 14 2019 10:50 GMT
#363
Best ID: KeSPAevryday

and it isn 't even close.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 14 2019 12:47 GMT
#364
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10237 Posts
April 14 2019 15:49 GMT
#365
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 14 2019 16:13 GMT
#366
On April 15 2019 00:49 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?


Well i totally admit that my name isn't good :/ (especially because it is a simple copy and paste from a tv show/book series) But at least it isn't a single word!

Let's be real, any ID which just a single english word is so lazy and boring, the only way people think these could be good is if they either don't speak said language so they at least perceive the sound as interesting, or because they simply like the players and what they achieved and thus actually appreciate everything around the ID.

Now this is only my opinion ofc, but i'd almost prefer it if we called the players by their real names.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10237 Posts
April 14 2019 16:16 GMT
#367
On April 15 2019 01:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?


Well i totally admit that my name isn't good :/ (especially because it is a simple copy and paste from a tv show/book series) But at least it isn't a single word!

Let's be real, any ID which just a single english word is so lazy and boring, the only way people think these could be good is if they either don't speak said language so they at least perceive the sound as interesting, or because they simply like the players and what they achieved and thus actually appreciate everything around the ID.

Now this is only my opinion ofc, but i'd almost prefer it if we called the players by their real names.

I'm truly amazed at how I disagree with every opinion I've ever seen you share.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 14 2019 16:34 GMT
#368
On April 15 2019 01:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 01:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 15 2019 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?


Well i totally admit that my name isn't good :/ (especially because it is a simple copy and paste from a tv show/book series) But at least it isn't a single word!

Let's be real, any ID which just a single english word is so lazy and boring, the only way people think these could be good is if they either don't speak said language so they at least perceive the sound as interesting, or because they simply like the players and what they achieved and thus actually appreciate everything around the ID.

Now this is only my opinion ofc, but i'd almost prefer it if we called the players by their real names.

I'm truly amazed at how I disagree with every opinion I've ever seen you share.

That's normal.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 14 2019 16:37 GMT
#369
On April 15 2019 01:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?


Well i totally admit that my name isn't good :/ (especially because it is a simple copy and paste from a tv show/book series) But at least it isn't a single word!

Let's be real, any ID which just a single english word is so lazy and boring, the only way people think these could be good is if they either don't speak said language so they at least perceive the sound as interesting, or because they simply like the players and what they achieved and thus actually appreciate everything around the ID.

Now this is only my opinion ofc, but i'd almost prefer it if we called the players by their real names.


I think it's high time we have real name too honestly, most ID are either plain or straight up bad and it lead to absurd scenario (like hero, herO and HerO in Starcraft)
I reed that some team/company don't want it because of some "confusing" nature of Asian name to western audience but it just feel a lazy excuse. I get not wanting to have your name online for various reason but it's kind of silly that we are suppose to go up to someone and call him/her by their made up name that no one ever use in real life and pretend we don't know who they are.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10237 Posts
April 14 2019 16:38 GMT
#370
On April 15 2019 01:37 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 01:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 15 2019 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?


Well i totally admit that my name isn't good :/ (especially because it is a simple copy and paste from a tv show/book series) But at least it isn't a single word!

Let's be real, any ID which just a single english word is so lazy and boring, the only way people think these could be good is if they either don't speak said language so they at least perceive the sound as interesting, or because they simply like the players and what they achieved and thus actually appreciate everything around the ID.

Now this is only my opinion ofc, but i'd almost prefer it if we called the players by their real names.


I think it's high time we have real name too honestly, most ID are either plain or straight up bad and it lead to absurd scenario (like hero, herO and HerO in Starcraft)
I reed that some team/company don't want it because of some "confusing" nature of Asian name to western audience but it just feel a lazy excuse. I get not wanting to have your name online for various reason but it's kind of silly that we are suppose to go up to someone and call him/her by their made up name that no one ever use in real life and pretend we don't know who they are.

I'm sure that Nakajin from Canada has a very objective view on Asian names and their approachability...
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-14 16:45:27
April 14 2019 16:40 GMT
#371
On April 15 2019 01:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 01:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 15 2019 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?


Well i totally admit that my name isn't good :/ (especially because it is a simple copy and paste from a tv show/book series) But at least it isn't a single word!

Let's be real, any ID which just a single english word is so lazy and boring, the only way people think these could be good is if they either don't speak said language so they at least perceive the sound as interesting, or because they simply like the players and what they achieved and thus actually appreciate everything around the ID.

Now this is only my opinion ofc, but i'd almost prefer it if we called the players by their real names.

I'm truly amazed at how I disagree with every opinion I've ever seen you share.


Doesn't surprise me, it's a fetish at this point though
You can obviously try and convince me what's so great about nicknames like flash, hero, dream or fantasy though.
Though you yourself rock one of these nicks so maybe you are just biased to begin with, who knows!


On April 15 2019 01:37 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 01:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 15 2019 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?


Well i totally admit that my name isn't good :/ (especially because it is a simple copy and paste from a tv show/book series) But at least it isn't a single word!

Let's be real, any ID which just a single english word is so lazy and boring, the only way people think these could be good is if they either don't speak said language so they at least perceive the sound as interesting, or because they simply like the players and what they achieved and thus actually appreciate everything around the ID.

Now this is only my opinion ofc, but i'd almost prefer it if we called the players by their real names.


I think it's high time we have real name too honestly, most ID are either plain or straight up bad and it lead to absurd scenario (like hero, herO and HerO in Starcraft)
I reed that some team/company don't want it because of some "confusing" nature of Asian name to western audience but it just feel a lazy excuse. I get not wanting to have your name online for various reason but it's kind of silly that we are suppose to go up to someone and call him/her by their made up name that no one ever use in real life and pretend we don't know who they are.


Well i don't think it is a lazy excuse, these one word IDs definitely are more approachable. But they also are lame as fuck and if people in general would use their real names people would be accustomed to it as well. Noone has a problem with jaedong
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-14 16:53:31
April 14 2019 16:43 GMT
#372
On April 15 2019 01:38 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 01:37 Nakajin wrote:
On April 15 2019 01:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 15 2019 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On April 14 2019 21:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Any ID which is simply an english word is terrible, better ones put more words together at least.
Knowing this, pretty much any ID is rather bad

Funny criticism coming from "The Red Viper."

---

iAsonu = Who the fuck??

Also, how the fuck Scarlett win over ByuL? Foreign fan jingoism?


Well i totally admit that my name isn't good :/ (especially because it is a simple copy and paste from a tv show/book series) But at least it isn't a single word!

Let's be real, any ID which just a single english word is so lazy and boring, the only way people think these could be good is if they either don't speak said language so they at least perceive the sound as interesting, or because they simply like the players and what they achieved and thus actually appreciate everything around the ID.

Now this is only my opinion ofc, but i'd almost prefer it if we called the players by their real names.


I think it's high time we have real name too honestly, most ID are either plain or straight up bad and it lead to absurd scenario (like hero, herO and HerO in Starcraft)
I reed that some team/company don't want it because of some "confusing" nature of Asian name to western audience but it just feel a lazy excuse. I get not wanting to have your name online for various reason but it's kind of silly that we are suppose to go up to someone and call him/her by their made up name that no one ever use in real life and pretend we don't know who they are.

I'm sure that Nakajin from Canada has a very objective view on Asian names and their approachability...


Hey my ID come from the wonderful sources of WOW random name generator when I was 10, it's a work of art.
And yes clearly if you put a list of 30 Korean man names in front of me they are probably sound kinda the same to me at first, but I won't go asking them to use fake name so it's easier for me to learn them.
And yes some ID are great and iconic but it just feel a weird tradition to keep up.

Anyhow it's a hill I'm gonna die on, I don't really mind. (As long as they are good name!)
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-14 16:57:06
April 14 2019 16:54 GMT
#373
Using ids is pretty reasonable to me. When someone starts out playing in online cups and whatnot all you have is their gamer tag. So name recognition starts building around it, not around their real name.

So of course everyone is going to go 'who is that?' when players try to switch to using KangHo or HeeBum.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
April 14 2019 17:01 GMT
#374
On April 14 2019 16:15 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 09:06 Nakajin wrote:
On April 14 2019 08:55 burnturn wrote:
Just a little suggestion to Nakajin, but do you think you could who is going to be playing against someone who's already in the bracket in the future? Like is Neeb going against the second placer from group 30, or is Harstem going against the first placer in group 32? Thanks, just a suggestion though.
Edit: Like the A2 versus B1 thing they do for the GSL bracket.


Bracket are already done!
(Wiki)User:Nakajin/Greatest of all time pool bracket stage

1st place finisher of the "high" group (group 1 to 16) face up against the second place finisher of a lower group (group 17 to 32) and vice and versa. Also there is seeding in the bracket depending on the group (no1 of the high group are in place 1 to 16, no1 of the low group 17 to 32, no2 of the high group 33 to 48...) so for example no first place finisher of the high group can meet each-other until the round of 16.
And finally player in the same group are placed on opposite side of the bracket.
For exemple Taeja (A1) face of against Nerchio (B25) while DRG (A17) face of against Boxer (B9).
Hope that answer your question!



Hahaha!!! Omg, Leenock vs Jjakji again!!

THIS TIME LEENOCK WILL HAVE HIS VENGEANCE!!


Also, Bracket 1 is INSANELY stacked: Taeja, DRG, Boxer, Serral, Innovattion, Leenock, Flash. Crazy that some of those names will be out in the RO64

At least "Dear" will likely be out soon. God that name sucks.

Best: Slayers_MMA
It worked on so many levels. He was an apprentice of Slayers_Boxer, he actually praticed MMA before, and it just sounds badass.

Worst: Dear
If it was spelt “Deer” I think it would be a much better name. Could get a whole Baratheon thing going. “Dear” however hardly inspires fear or awe in others.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 14 2019 17:12 GMT
#375
On April 15 2019 01:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Using ids is pretty reasonable to me. When someone starts out playing in online cups and whatnot all you have is their gamer tag. So name recognition starts building around it, not around their real name.

So of course everyone is going to go 'who is that?' when players try to switch to using KangHo or HeeBum.

Right, but if that gamertag would be their real name from the beginning it would just be another gamertag which isn't a simple english word. Like Jaedong. Or Kangho if you will. It would be normal, just like it is normal for football players to use their real names (most of the time).
It's not super important either way, but i have a hard time seeing "flash" and thinking that it's a great ID. The meme that koreans just pick a random english word out of a dictionary or in the case of fantasy, life, etc out of the lyrics of bohemian rhapsody is telling

Iconic IDs got iconic because of the achievements of the player, Youngho woud be iconic as well if flash used that instead. (or if they used the real names from the beginning), all a matter of getting used to it and repetition.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
burnturn
Profile Joined December 2015
United States59 Posts
April 14 2019 17:12 GMT
#376
On April 14 2019 09:06 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 08:55 burnturn wrote:
Just a little suggestion to Nakajin, but do you think you could who is going to be playing against someone who's already in the bracket in the future? Like is Neeb going against the second placer from group 30, or is Harstem going against the first placer in group 32? Thanks, just a suggestion though.
Edit: Like the A2 versus B1 thing they do for the GSL bracket.


Bracket are already done!
(Wiki)User:Nakajin/Greatest of all time pool bracket stage

1st place finisher of the "high" group (group 1 to 16) face up against the second place finisher of a lower group (group 17 to 32) and vice and versa. Also there is seeding in the bracket depending on the group (no1 of the high group are in place 1 to 16, no1 of the low group 17 to 32, no2 of the high group 33 to 48...) so for example no first place finisher of the high group can meet each-other until the round of 16.
And finally player in the same group are placed on opposite side of the bracket.
For exemple Taeja (A1) face of against Nerchio (B25) while DRG (A17) face of against Boxer (B9).
Hope that answer your question!

Yes it does! Thank you very much

sOs is clearly the best one. sOs = Soul of Sky/Soul of the Sky

Worst by far is iAsonu, I can hardly pronounce it.
sOs is best
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 14 2019 17:30 GMT
#377
MVP & Naniwa easily.

Stephano surely but then I actually don't know much about the 3 other players
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 14 2019 17:51 GMT
#378
On April 15 2019 02:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 01:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Using ids is pretty reasonable to me. When someone starts out playing in online cups and whatnot all you have is their gamer tag. So name recognition starts building around it, not around their real name.

So of course everyone is going to go 'who is that?' when players try to switch to using KangHo or HeeBum.

Right, but if that gamertag would be their real name from the beginning it would just be another gamertag which isn't a simple english word. Like Jaedong. Or Kangho if you will. It would be normal, just like it is normal for football players to use their real names (most of the time).
It's not super important either way, but i have a hard time seeing "flash" and thinking that it's a great ID. The meme that koreans just pick a random english word out of a dictionary or in the case of fantasy, life, etc out of the lyrics of bohemian rhapsody is telling

Iconic IDs got iconic because of the achievements of the player, Youngho woud be iconic as well if flash used that instead. (or if they used the real names from the beginning), all a matter of getting used to it and repetition.


Sure, but I doubt most people would want to use their real name as their gamer tag just in case they make it to the pro level.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 14 2019 18:15 GMT
#379
On April 15 2019 02:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 02:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 15 2019 01:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Using ids is pretty reasonable to me. When someone starts out playing in online cups and whatnot all you have is their gamer tag. So name recognition starts building around it, not around their real name.

So of course everyone is going to go 'who is that?' when players try to switch to using KangHo or HeeBum.

Right, but if that gamertag would be their real name from the beginning it would just be another gamertag which isn't a simple english word. Like Jaedong. Or Kangho if you will. It would be normal, just like it is normal for football players to use their real names (most of the time).
It's not super important either way, but i have a hard time seeing "flash" and thinking that it's a great ID. The meme that koreans just pick a random english word out of a dictionary or in the case of fantasy, life, etc out of the lyrics of bohemian rhapsody is telling

Iconic IDs got iconic because of the achievements of the player, Youngho woud be iconic as well if flash used that instead. (or if they used the real names from the beginning), all a matter of getting used to it and repetition.


Sure, but I doubt most people would want to use their real name as their gamer tag just in case they make it to the pro level.


Sure, there is a real culture around gamertags and nicknames on the internet. I don't think it is necessarily bad. But most names are kinda bad, i like yours though for example
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 14 2019 18:39 GMT
#380
On April 15 2019 03:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2019 02:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 15 2019 02:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 15 2019 01:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Using ids is pretty reasonable to me. When someone starts out playing in online cups and whatnot all you have is their gamer tag. So name recognition starts building around it, not around their real name.

So of course everyone is going to go 'who is that?' when players try to switch to using KangHo or HeeBum.

Right, but if that gamertag would be their real name from the beginning it would just be another gamertag which isn't a simple english word. Like Jaedong. Or Kangho if you will. It would be normal, just like it is normal for football players to use their real names (most of the time).
It's not super important either way, but i have a hard time seeing "flash" and thinking that it's a great ID. The meme that koreans just pick a random english word out of a dictionary or in the case of fantasy, life, etc out of the lyrics of bohemian rhapsody is telling

Iconic IDs got iconic because of the achievements of the player, Youngho woud be iconic as well if flash used that instead. (or if they used the real names from the beginning), all a matter of getting used to it and repetition.


Sure, but I doubt most people would want to use their real name as their gamer tag just in case they make it to the pro level.


Sure, there is a real culture around gamertags and nicknames on the internet. I don't think it is necessarily bad. But most names are kinda bad, i like yours though for example


Well, there surely has been a trend for mostly korean players in RTS to use english verbs/names as their own ID ; I usually like it more than real names or korean words.

Not sure I can decide which nicknames are the best/worst ones, I would just say I like Golden and dislike Pigbaby.
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